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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    guy with racist "lives matter" signature tries to say race wasn't involved when a person goes on an asian killing spree and has said anti-asian things online.
    Can anyone provide a link with these "anti-asian" things he supposedly said? Because so far it's looking more like he targeted women that he believed were sex workers that happened to be asian rather than specifically targeting asians.

    I'm open to the possibility that it could be a combination of those factors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Ah yes an American police department assuring us that something totally wasn't racially motivated while also dropping such gems as “He was fed up, at the end of his rope...yesterday was a really bad day for him and this is what he did".
    Yeah, but did they take him to McDonald's for a snack before they took him to jail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Yeah, but did they take him to McDonald's for a snack before they took him to jail?
    Reason number 147 in the "Why I say ACAB" list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    women that he believed were sex workers that happened to be asian
    Gee, I wonder for what possible fucking reason he might assume Asian women at massage parlors and salons offer sexual services?

    The way y'all don't see how this automatically qualifies it as a racially motivated attack really just broadcasts an ignorance of the discrimination Asian-Americans face, tbh. It's the Bors comic but with racism.

    "But did he say he hated Asians? Curious! I am very intelligent."
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    Quote Originally Posted by crewskater View Post
    Too bad they took him in alive.
    I rather theybare alive, otherwise the usual suspects are.quick to try and dump thencorpse on the left. Get them alive and they speak for themselves. And what they say tends.to be damning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post

    Gee, I wonder for what possible fucking reason he might assume Asian women at massage parlors and salons offer sexual services?

    The way y'all don't see how this automatically qualifies it as a racially motivated attack really just broadcasts an ignorance of the discrimination Asian-Americans face, tbh. It's the Bors comic but with racism.
    Dude, I'm not arguing the guy's case. If you look at my posts I've already said that it's a hate crime no matter how he tries to sell it. I'm just curious if he was specifically targeting asian women...or if any woman he thought was a sex worker would fit the bill for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yadryonych View Post
    Didn't know Capt. Jay Baker of the Cherokee County Sheriff’s Office had the same signature with message of life importance. He must be a really nice guy
    Hey did you watch the press conference?

    Sheriff: Look guys, the killer says he has a sex addiction therefore it wasn't racist because THE KILLER TOLD US SO? You for real?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    Dude, I'm not arguing the guy's case. If you look at my posts I've already said that it's a hate crime no matter how he tries to sell it. I'm just curious if he was specifically targeting asian women...or if any woman he thought was a sex worker would fit the bill for him.
    Sealioning is the new gaslighting I guess, lol.

    Hi there! It's 2021 and I'm really fucking tired of every incel white boy mass shooter with a scraggly pube-beard smushed onto his face getting psychoanalysed to absolve them of any possible socially sourced motivation by true crime junkies on social media before we even know the victims' names. Please take a number and I'll be right with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yadryonych View Post
    The police concluded it wasn't a racially-driven hate crime because the man wasn't targeting a specific race. It was sexually-driven for he only targeted women:
    They didn't conclude anything. They just reported what he said as his reason.
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    And Democrats immediately played the race card. Shocker!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Sealioning is the new gaslighting I guess, lol.
    Just look at my posts in this thread if you actually think i'm trying to downplay what this guy did.

    Multiple people have stated now that this CHUD made racist remarks about asians online. All I've asked for is someone to provide a link to these posts so I can see them for myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muto View Post
    And Democrats immediately played the race card. Shocker!
    The shooter kind of played the race card by committing a racially motivated crime first, sweaty. Lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muto View Post
    And Democrats immediately played the race card. Shocker!
    Why you gotta make this political, bro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    The shooter kind of played the race card by committing a racially motivated crime first, sweaty. Lol.
    It wasn’t racially motivated. He was targeting spas. And two victims were white. It just happened to be there were more Asians in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Why you gotta make this political, bro?
    Same reason Democrats have to make everything about race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muto View Post
    It wasn’t racially motivated. He was targeting spas.
    Uh huh. And why was he targeting spas?

    "He apparently has an issue, what he considers a sex addiction, and sees these locations ... [as] a temptation for him that he wanted to eliminate."

    Because of a cultural stereotype of Asian salon workers as submissive and willing to provide sex work on the side. Context is important, kiddo.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muto View Post
    And Democrats immediately played the race card. Shocker!
    And a seemingly conservative shmuck shot up places and murdered people. Own you own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Uh huh. And why was he targeting spas?

    "He apparently has an issue, what he considers a sex addiction, and sees these locations ... [as] a temptation for him that he wanted to eliminate."

    Because of a cultural stereotype of Asian salon workers as submissive and willing to provide sex work on the side. Context is important, kiddo.
    Yeah he associated spas with sex. As I said if it was all white people in the spa the result would have been the same. He was targeting spas, not Asians.

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    So a young male Karen who had "customer service expectations" after a spa treatment...

    Combined with his toxic fetishism of Asian Women, and casual bigotry...

    With a gun.


    I remember early reports on Dylan Roof claiming it was "trouble at home" that caused him to murder minorities.

    Early reports from police really arent worth much these days. It's just camera time for BArney Fife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muto View Post
    Yeah he associated spas with sex.
    Again: because of a cultural stereotype of Asian salon workers as submissive and willing to provide sex work on the side. You not seeing how a cultural context of bigotry against Asian-Americans motivates crimes like this doesn't mean the crime wasn't racially motivated, it just means you know fuck all about cultural context. Lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ursus View Post
    Again, this is based on the suspect's words, and he could be full of shit, but it seems that this may be a religious nut type of situation, just a bit of speculation on my part. Lots of people have sex addiction, the only reason I can think of why someone would kill over it is if they hated themselves so much for it and thought they were going to Hell because of it. We do know from his high school classmates that he was extremely religious.
    There has seemingly been a rise in the vilification of porn, masturbation, and sex work among the type of people to unironically say things like "the China virus" recently. Wherein they pretend that young men touching themselves to naughty pictures on the internet is leading to the Downfall of Western Civilization™. So racism may or may not have been an explicit motivation, but even if it wasn't...it comes from the same place.

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    Anyone digging up this kids priors? Just to be sure he doesn't get off with the "Young man with a hopeful future" schtick?
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