Visualization of PArtisan Bubbles

[Milchshake]

Horny for data visualizations of partisan spatial segregation?

A new paper in Nature Human Behavior by Harvard’s Ryan Enos and Jacob Brown titled, “The measurement of partisan sorting for 180 million voters.” The New York Times did some sexy maps from their data.

As new research has found, it’s not just that many voters live in neighborhoods with few members of the opposite party; it’s that nearly all American voters live in communities where they are less likely to encounter people with opposing politics than we’d expect. That means, for example, that in a neighborhood where Democrats make up 60 percent of the voters, only 50 percent of a Republican’s nearest neighbors might be Democrats.

Taste in housing might predetermine your party afilliation.



Friendly neighbors and lots of water features.

[Toppy]

No shit.

Its fairly known that economic status and education is a huge determining factor for party affiliation and people tend to congregate based on that.

[NED funded]

Do they explain if its the result of liberal ppl buying or renting in liberal places or already heavy liberal places influence the politics of those that move in

[Machismo]

Do they explain if its the result of liberal ppl buying or renting in liberal places or already heavy liberal places influence the politics of those that move in

Maybe they just have no desire to live near Trumpsters.

[PC2]

Yes partisan segregation is common and inevitable to some degree but the future will always present new kinds of problems which causes prior spatial patterns to change in unexpected ways. Partisan segregation doesn't really matter that much since current policy will either have good performance that continues the current trajectory or mediocre performance which causes a purpling effect in red/blue regions.

Data visualization is based on correlations though so a data thread like this probably won't have many posts/pages because society largely already agrees on the geographic and social dynamics that cause differences between regions at the present moment.

[Felya]

Do they explain if its the result of liberal ppl buying or renting in liberal places or already heavy liberal places influence the politics of those that move in

People congregate around work. A better question would be, why are places that are most densely populated by the working class, vote liberal?

[PC2]

People congregate around work. A better question would be, why are places that are most densely populated by the working class, vote liberal?

It depends on if you are talking about issues that are more social or economic. For social issues the more densely populated areas are more likely to eliminate irrational prejudices that reduce individual freedom(liberal value) because there is a higher rate of social interactions to learn from on a daily basis. It's a process of trial and error and a numbers game where new information can travel faster between nodes on a graph if they are closer together and have more edges between nodes. Where the features of a graph represent the surface of the Earth, people, and relationships.

For economics the working class is less likely to be in suburbs because it costs too much and they're less likely to be in rural areas because the urbanization ratio is usually around 80/20 in 2021. The economy is moving more towards knowledge and service based jobs as opposed to highly physical jobs that involve the extraction of basic materials. Which naturally favors cities over less populated areas.

Also when it comes to economics it will obviously be the case that working class people prefer equality(liberal value) because they have nothing to lose from tax increases since the top 5% of society carries the majority of the tax burden and the bottom 60% pays barely any taxes.

[JohnBrown1917]

Do they explain if its the result of liberal ppl buying or renting in liberal places or already heavy liberal places influence the politics of those that move in

Or you know, that rich people tend to lean way further to the right relative to lower-middle class/the poor.

[Felya]

It depends on if you are talking about issues that are more social or economic. For social issues the more densely populated areas are more likely to eliminate irrational prejudices that reduce individual freedom(liberal value) because there is a higher rate of social interactions to learn from on a daily basis. It's a process of trial and error and a numbers game where new information can travel faster between nodes on a graph if they are closer together and have more edges between nodes. Where the features of a graph represent the surface of the Earth, people, and relationships.

I don’t understand how this sort of rhetoric is supposed to help workers. You go from social or economic, into what seems to be a rant about multiculturalism. Here is a rebuttal... workers don’t give a shit about multiculturalism... when you offer nothing, but a culture war, it shouldn’t be a surprise that an environment that is more densely populated by the working class, would be more concerned with things like minimum wage, healthcare and security of employment.

For economics the working class is less likely to be in suburbs because it costs too much and they're less likely to be in rural areas because the urbanization ratio is usually around 80/20 in 2021. The economy is moving more towards knowledge and service based jobs as opposed to highly physical jobs that involve the extraction of basic materials. Which naturally favors cities over less populated areas.

This isn’t helping your point, since the start contradicts the conclusion. It also doesn’t explain why larger congregations of workers, result in votes for the left. Because, that’s what marks you on the OP map... not your thoughts...

Also when it comes to economics it will obviously be the case that working class people prefer equality(liberal value) because they have nothing to lose from tax increases since the top 5% of society carries the majority of the tax burden and the bottom 60% pays barely any taxes.

Interesting idea... Let’s say a guy made 100 bucks and get taxed at 15%. Then let’s say another makes 1000$, but taxed at 45%, in a tax bracket above 100. Who feels the impact more... the person left with 85$... or 680$? To whom is it nothing?

[Bakis]

Bigger problem is US media which is a shithole in terms of standards of questioning tough questions and give both sides of the argument a voice.
Critical thinking is like a swear word in mainstream US media.

[JohnBrown1917]

Bigger problem is US media which is a shithole in terms of standards of questioning tough questions and give both sides of the argument a voice.
Critical thinking is like a swear word in mainstream US media.

Not and US problem really. British media is probably even worse. To not even speak of the kind in my own country, but I think a lot people can talk about the shitty newsmedia they have in whatever country they are from.;