When will they release chains of domination?

[Gorsameth]

Do we know when the new patch is out?

4-6 months after CN opened.

[Ringthane]

Can you back that up?

It was literally on the front page of this very site, which you have to click through to get here (unless you just have the forums bookmarked).

[Soon-TM]

What I'm concerned about is the ammount of casual content. Yes, those players exist. A mythic only dungeon is not really content for them. So what are you going to do for another half a year if you don't raid or run mythic? Leave?

The name of the game is the same as in Cata/WoD: raid or die. The only difference is that if you raid, you have an additional grind, i.e. M+. That is assuming that you aren't handicapping yourself by giving up those sweet vault lootz.

[Wangming]

The name of the game is the same as in Cata/WoD: raid or die. The only difference is that if you raid, you have an additional grind, i.e. M+. That is assuming that you aren't handicapping yourself by giving up those sweet vault lootz.

Well if they think they can go till 9.2 without substantial casual content they can kiss their sub numbers goodbye.

[justandulas]

I will be sure to keep an eye on the share price for when it tanks in June because market expert justandulas said it would be a catastrophic failure. Easy money right? Buy low. Sell high?

if you think WoW has any reflection on the ATVI stock price, i have some bad news for you. I'm actually a professional investor, and i do invest in ATVI, and call of duty makes up almost all of their revenue and profits.

WoW is but a tiny piece of the pie, and wow was never more relevant to shareholders than when classic came and doubled the subscriptions.

But yes, be sure to come back and eat your crow when they say "We've had a downturn in SL.." corporate speak next shareholders meeting

[Tiradon]

I'd say I'm surprised it's not on PTR yet, but I've just realised 9.0.5 has only been out just over two weeks Honestly though, 9.0.5 doesn't really bring anything that stands out, so it's felt longer than two weeks so far. Hopefully it will be on PTR very soon and start drumming up excitement. I wouldn't expect much more than the Zone for a few weeks and the Raid and Dungeon later on.

I'm expecting them to add 9.1 to the PTR until April... But you know this is getting out of hand, we already seeing a lot of players moving on from the game. Even with 9.0.5 coming out 2 weeks ago most of my guild mates and community members decided to take a break from the game either going to play Classic or stopping to play wow completely until the next patch comes out.

[Dracullus]

I'm normally in the big enough camp. I mean this does seem like quite a lot. What I'm concerned about is the ammount of casual content. Yes, those players exist. A mythic only dungeon is not really content for them. So what are you going to do for another half a year if you don't raid or run mythic? Leave?

If you completely refuse doing any raids, dungeons and PVP? Same as other expansions, complete new achievements, do pet battles from new place, hunt rares from new place, complete story on main and alts, unlock flying, unlock new Renown levels, unlock staff you haven't before cause gathering Anima now is pain in the ass.. Also casual item level will go up to around 230.

Still I would put at least SoD LFR as casual content. Mythic dungeon should be there as well, but I'm aware nowadays part of casual people get panic attack when content hasn't any matchmaking button. But rest should be motivated to do it if there will be quest to complete and no other way to do this content.

Overall, no reason to believe it will be different than any other WoW patch. Do you seriously believe last two expacs casuals were farming easy content endlessly for titanforging and never ending artifact levels?

[Wangming]

Overall, no reason to believe it will be different than any other WoW patch. Do you seriously believe last two expacs casuals were farming easy content endlessly for titanforging and never ending artifact levels?

No i expect a mass exodus of casuals into other MMOs that aren't raid or die. Question is, who are the majority?

[Argorwal]

No i expect a mass exodus of casuals into other MMOs that aren't raid or die. Question is, who are the majority?

How did WoW even survive in your eyes from vanilla-wrath 3.3 when they made the dungeon finder?

Let alone become the largest MMO of all time.

[Wangming]

How did WoW even survive in your eyes from vanilla-wrath 3.3 when they made the dungeon finder?

Let alone become the largest MMO of all time.

The market was different. The big ones now?

GW2 was released during MoP
SWTOR during Cata
BDO during Warlords of Draenor
TESO also during WoD
FFXIV was released first during Cata and re-released during MoP

WoW came at the right time with the right ideas to make MMOs into something popular and more mainstream instead of niche. That much is given. But things are changing and WoW will have to change with the time.

[Low Hanging Fruit]

May 15ish if they plan to release a patch that is burning to the ground upon release.

June 1stish if they plan to have your normal patch bug bullshit.

June 15ish if they plan to have a decently stable and ready to go patch.

Of course.. these are all blind guesses but its fun to pretend like you are the insider and everyone else is dumb because internet reasons.

[Soon-TM]

May 15ish if they plan to release a patch that is burning to the ground upon release.

June 1stish if they plan to have your normal patch bug bullshit.

June 15ish if they plan to have a decently stable and ready to go patch.

Of course.. these are all blind guesses but its fun to pretend like you are the insider and everyone else is dumb because internet reasons.

I'd say that anything June or before is being quite optimistic. But we will see soon enough (or not, lul).

[Vrinara]

Considering 9.5 was released recently, we can probably expect it in Late April, Late May, or early June at the latest. Considering it's not on ptr and Classic TBC beta has started (Or is starting) we can probably expect it around late May, and Classic TBC around June through September. We will have to see.

[Nyel]

June is the earliest and July the latest month for a 9.1 release imho.

[mr2t]

People still saying late May

[sam86]

And how many of them were actual developers?

Spoiler alert

Zero

u think developer works alone? even a simple janitor helps him by keeping his desk clean, that saves time
and I'm fed with ppl who keep thinking that when u fire 10% of entire workforce of a company won't effect every single department, ppl at blizzard are at their limits, and that was way back at first fire happy time, when they exposed anonymously their joke of salary in comparison to Bobby, who of course didn't sit idle and increased it again and got a bonus that is equal to hundreds of his employees entire year salary alone

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Which is completely irrelevant to WoW since nobody from Wow was laid off.

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The raid doesn't release until weeks after the patch, so they can continue to test that after patch releases.

of course, they will work with zero problem when dozens of their friends got fired for the amazing reason of Bobby Kodick refuse to reduce his 200 million bonus to just 180 million, i'm sure that won't effect their morals and will make them die to work for blizz

[LordVargK]

The name of the game is the same as in Cata/WoD: raid or die.

So, what new casual content do you want? Dungeons, PvP and raids do not seem casual to you (yet they are). 9.1 gives us a new zone. Torghast is still there. WQs are too. What more do you even want? And what else was there in the past for casuals to do that is now missing? Your comment does not make any sense to me.

[Finear]

u think developer works alone? even a simple janitor helps him by keeping his desk clean, that saves time
and I'm fed with ppl who keep thinking that when u fire 10% of entire workforce of a company won't effect every single department, ppl at blizzard are at their limits, and that was way back at first fire happy time, when they exposed anonymously their joke of salary in comparison to Bobby, who of course didn't sit idle and increased it again and got a bonus that is equal to hundreds of his employees entire year salary alone

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of course, they will work with zero problem when dozens of their friends got fired for the amazing reason of Bobby Kodick refuse to reduce his 200 million bonus to just 180 million, i'm sure that won't effect their morals and will make them die to work for blizz

and janitors were fired? right now they are working from home so kinda irrelevant, also they are most likely outsourced already

when they exposed anonymously their joke of salary

developers salary? or a bunch of people from marketing/customer service?

im sure devs working in california are missing their friends from paris customer service office

[uncl55]

Shadowlands is slowly turning into WoD 2.0.. its really shame, start was very strong but this next min. 3 months of no content will be killer.

[Soon-TM]

So, what new casual content do you want? Dungeons, PvP and raids do not seem casual to you (yet they are). 9.1 gives us a new zone. Torghast is still there. WQs are too. What more do you even want? And what else was there in the past for casuals to do that is now missing? Your comment does not make any sense to me.

One word: Legion.