Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
World needs more Goblin Warriors https://i.imgur.com/WKs8aJA.jpg
The thing that makes taxes difficult, is perception. Instead of treating a tax hike, because you are one of 2% richest people in US, as a badge of honor or pride. We pretend that the tax increase on those 2%, creates suffering equivalent to a poor person losing income to taxes. Which is wrong on so many levels, compounded by... what I see as the majority... that simply don’t understand tax brackets.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
The fired employee was actually mad about a short delay in releasing numbers, to verify the numbers, which she was ordered to do. She was then found out to be a serial liar and fabulist, attacking families and misleading the public on COVID infections. Find another hero.
Honest people can disagree about how much credit he deserves, and what precise metric he should be evaluated on. Remember that Florida has a higher median age of population than New York and California (much much higher than California), and COVID disproportionately affects the elderly. And already answered on the lies angle, which appears to be truly backed by a politically motivated belief that he did bad.
Truly, just read the story, and read both sides.
"I wish it need not have happened in my time." "So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
...so he knowingly kept his state open and imperiled the greater number of people his state contains who were more susceptible to the very disease he underplayed?
Again, you're not exactly painting this like a "victory" for him.
There are no "winners" in the handling of COVID outside of places like New Zealand that listened to their government and health officials and outright extirpated it. If you're touting that someplace "did well" because some economic metric looks "good" throughout, but ignore the actual, important, human toll, you're judging 100% the wrong thing.
Businesses that had to close temporarily can be reopened. Profits lost can be regained in the future. Businesses that had to shutter will be replaced by new ones. But you can never bring the dead back to life.
“Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
Words to live by.
Stunning to watch Ron DeSantis take a victory lap when the largest city in his state had more new covid cases over the last week than any other large city in the U.S.. While the media pundits applaud him.
And by "stunning," I mean "Holy crap, how has no one punched this guy, or his fawning scribes."
I have a theory. Bear with me.
The reason they prop up the story is: The all-time favourite "Everyone's a winner, there are no losers here" attitude. Every side has two stories. Truth is only an opinion, and every opinion is valid, therefore every truth is true. It's all relative... I can come up with more junk if anyone's interested, btw, just stop me anytime...
Also, boring but probably more to the point: Why not prop up the biggest entertainment spectacle aside from wars, mass shootings and/or the latest Kardashian scandal? As long as people are dumb enough to pay for it with their time watching ads, why not show it? It's low investment entertainment. Barely takes any effort, an intern is probably writing that shit anyway. And as far as some of the GoP top dogs go, it does not matter AT ALL what they're saying. As long as their mouths are moving and they appear to not have died live on camera (that would be good for ratings, I'm sure), the world is alright.
If McConnell made an interview saying he eats babies, people would immediately ask to re-interview him to ask a) how they actually taste, chicken? or b) why he felt the need to tell everyone... or c) start the hype for the biggest and most scandalous court trials since OJ Simpson... revenue guaranteed for at least a year of regurgitated nonsense.
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I mean, as you can read in the news stories cited, too much was made of the imperilment and those people should be regarded as doomsayers. Phrased differently, your gripe is that he did too well for you and didn't respond in as panicked of a manner as you wished and sadly was rewarded in economic profit and overall performance.
As regards no "winners" beyond New Zealand, I too think an island nation with a population the size of Alabama possesses unique features that can define a "Win." How much you wish to generalize results with those advantages depends on your own proclivities and prejudices.
I'm happy to see your evidence, especially since you have a much closer view than I do. I'm a Californian, so I can tell you that Governor Newsom's response is easily in the bottom 10 of states and he ought to be recalled and never achieve a position of public responsibility again. But, y'know, I'm biased and all that.
"I wish it need not have happened in my time." "So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
This is the equivalent of a cheater bragging that the test wasn't as hard as people were saying.
You can just say you're not familiar with the Ardern ministry's approach to COVID beyond shutting down international travel, you know.As regards no "winners" beyond New Zealand, I too think an island nation with a population the size of Alabama possesses unique features that can define a "Win." How much you wish to generalize results with those advantages depends on your own proclivities and prejudices.
Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
The per capita death rate for California is about in the middle which is pretty decent considering that California is densely populated and an international trade and travel hub. Its also about 1/3 MAGAhat which amounts to millions of people who don't believe its real.
And yes we know you're extremely biased.
....and Florida is preparing for yet another potential wave as impudent spring breakers invade the state. Oopsie.
As far as did "well," you call 33,000 Floridians dying from Covid "doing well?" When you admit that the governor's lax response might have indeed lead to elderly people getting the disease and causing a higher death rate?
Apparently, a populace that listens to scientists and health officials is "unique" to New Zealand? I mean, in the context of the United States (and certainly Alabama) that's unfortunately true, but that responsibility lies exclusively within the purview of the people and their elected officials, and absolutely no one and nothing else. Every anti-masker, every lie that came out of Trump's mouth, everyone that knowingly endangered another person or listened to quack talking heads with no medical aptitude over the advice of actual doctors... they made those choices to spread COVID.As regards no "winners" beyond New Zealand, I too think an island nation with a population the size of Alabama possesses unique features that can define a "Win." How much you wish to generalize results with those advantages depends on your own proclivities and prejudices.
And if you're going to point out that NZ and Alabama share similar population sizes... why didn't Alabama jump on it and batten down their population? New Zealanders are already pretty much back to business as usual. Alabama has had five times more people die of Covid than New Zealand even had Covid cases. So it sounds like Alabama would love to be in New Zealand's shoes right now, what with New Zealand chugging along happy and free and Alabama being... well, Alabama about it.
Maybe it's the previous administration's abject refusal of leadership and constant, unwavering denial of science that contributed to those deaths, hmm?
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“Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
Words to live by.
Florida had one of the highest death totals, infection rates, and symptom-based illness in the United States. De Santis was so afraid of the truth he arrested scientists who tried to get the word out.
Canada called, wanted you to know you missed reality again.
No, you're really not. You are continually shown evidence that you bat aside because it upsets your echo chamber. If you really cared about evidence, you'd skim through the COVID thread for items relating to Florida.
There is a reason "Fuck Florida" is a thing in this forum.
Dammit, was today Dune Cosplay Day and no one told me?
Anwyays Princess Wensicia whines about identity politics and wonders why Asian-Americans dont vote for the GOP.
She's also training cats to eat migrant children and complains that her conservative husband makes her do all the work.
Know then, that it is the year ten thousand one hundred ninety one. The known universe is ruled by the Padishah Emperor Shaddam IV, my father.
I believe she was also complaining about preferring diverse candidates for cabinet saying people should get their positions based on their qualifications which, again, is rich coming from someone who's principle "qualification" is being someone's daughter.
Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi