8 dead at Atlanta Massage and Spa shootings

[Hilhen7]

Again I'm not supporting someone I'm posting the actual news reports. You misunderstand my intent.

There is alot of horrible shit about this story. If its actually true of what's reported and he didn't have any racial motive then people are on a crusade for the wrong injustices (in this situation). If it's true that there were women who had to resort to prostitution to pay debts to coyotes then you should be crusading against stopping that shit. Instead of just arresting and deporting them have them help remove the assholes that are exploiting them and then let them stay here or some something. Or maybe do something with gun control. Or why do we let church's and shit handle treatment for sex addiction or what ever shouldn't that be handled by professionals? Especially when that group also has stupid nonsense like ex-gay therapy.

I could be wrong. Maybe he only targeted spas he had a history with and no other businesses with Asians as an alibi. Maybe the non-female/Korean victims got the the way. Maybe all the sex addiction shit was made up by racist cops.

There has been an insane increase in racism against Asians after Trump's China virus comments, just like there were when he was talking about Muslims and the Muslim ban so it's not that this couldn't have been about racism it just seems unlikely from what the news has reported.

I mean the vast majority of the victims are Asian and it was Asian establishments that where targeted, so why wouldn't it be racially motivated. It's like shooting up 3 Yeshiva's and saying that religion/ethnicity had nothing to do with it.

Also for him to assume that 60+ year old women at massage parlors are sex workers is racist in and of itself

Unless we are assuming here that he knew for a FACT that each one of those individuals are sex workers it's impossible to claim that race wasn't a factor in the attack.

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https://www.insider.com/georgia-shoo...ey-yaun-2021-3

Fair questions over the detention of a Hispanic man whose wife was killed in the shooting. Why'd cops keep him handcuffed for 4 hours? Why wouldn't they tell him that his wife was killed until hours later? Mario Gonzalez deserves some fuckin answers, and some fuckin justice.

[qwerty123456]

I mean the vast majority of the victims are Asian and it was Asian establishments that where targeted, so why wouldn't it be racially motivated. It's like shooting up 3 Yeshiva's and saying that religion/ethnicity had nothing to do with it.

Also for him to assume that 60+ year old women at massage parlors are sex workers is racist in and of itself

Unless we are assuming here that he knew for a FACT that each one of those individuals are sex workers it's impossible to claim that race wasn't a factor in the attack.

Oh for sure it could have been racially motivated I'm not denying that. This whole conversation start because someone refused to believe that it could be anything other than racism because the killer looked like your stereotypical redneck. I then explained the latest news that suggested it wasn't racially motivated and had to defend myself from assholes calling me racist.

I have no idea why he specifically targeted each individual.

https://www.insider.com/georgia-shoo...ey-yaun-2021-3

Fair questions over the detention of a Hispanic man whose wife was killed in the shooting. Why'd cops keep him handcuffed for 4 hours? Why wouldn't they tell him that his wife was killed until hours later? Mario Gonzalez deserves some fuckin answers, and some fuckin justice.

That's fucked up. I hope that they have some answers for that. Only thing I can think of off the top of my head would be racism. But even then you would think they would realize they fucked up pretty quick when you have eye witnesses and try to sweep it under the rug instead of keeping him in handcuffs for hours.

you are questioning it even though it's clearly racially motivated.

It looks racially motivated and possibly could be. Do we know if he went to any other non Asian massage parlors?

[Alex Moriati]

Oh for sure it could have been racially motivated I'm not denying that.

you are questioning it even though it's clearly racially motivated.

[Aurrora]

you are questioning it even though it's clearly racially motivated.

Except all the reporting, the police, and the FBI are saying otherwise. The shooter was just kicked out of his house because of his sex addiction, had been in a rehab facility for sex addiction a year ago, has a former roommate that attests to him being distraught over his sex addiction, had previously been a customer of the shops he targeted, and was on his way to a porn company in Florida to continue his attack when he was apprehended.

The people that have decided the shooting was racially motivated are the racists.

[Elegiac]

The shooter was just kicked out of his house because of his sex addiction

Ah yes, sex addiction, that thing which is totally real and not made up as a defense of bullshit behavior.

Also, going specifically to spas where Asian women work because you fetishise them isn't racist somehow.

[Felya]

The people that have decided the shooting was racially motivated are the racists.

Yeah, it’s not the shooter that killed 8 Asian people that is racist... it’s people who say killing 8 Asian people, is racist.

But, hey... a murderer claimed he had sex addiction... I am no judge of character... but, I trust him more than the victim’s families.

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Also, going specifically to spas where Asian women work because you fetishise them isn't racist somehow.

Because they find it relatable... it’s why the cop said... ‘he was just having a bad day’...

[jonnysensible]

Church taught him he had a sex addiction and to objectify and blame women who 'tempted' him. Classic evangelical bullshit with toxic masculinity. Another Christian killer.

[Aurrora]

Yeah, it’s not the shooter that killed 8 Asian people that is racist... it’s people who say killing 8 Asian people, is racist.

But, hey... a murderer claimed he had sex addiction... I am no judge of character... but, I trust him more than the victim’s families.

There's years of documentation showing the sex addiction, but keep going on with your racist circle jerk.

[Elegiac]

There's years of documentation showing the sex addiction

Which isn't a real thing.

[Aurrora]

Which isn't a real thing.

The WHO says otherwise.

[jonnysensible]

There's years of documentation showing the sex addiction, but keep going on with your racist circle jerk.

if you cant understand devaluing Asian women into sex objects is racist fetishization i dont know what to tell you

[Aurrora]

if you cant understand devaluing Asian women into sex objects is racist fetishization i dont know what to tell you

If you can't figure out why determining the motive of the shooter solely based on his race is racist, and ignoring all the evidence to the contrary, I know what you tell you. You're a racist.

[jonnysensible]

If you can't figure out why determining the motive of the shooter solely based on his race is racist, and ignoring all the evidence to the contrary, I know what you tell you. You're a racist.

ive already stated above he was a mix of evangelical self hatred based on toxic purity culture and a mysogonist racist because of his targets.

[Felya]

There's years of documentation showing the sex addiction, but keep going on with your racist circle jerk.

Your article also includes the WHO listing gaming addiction on the same level. Where is the years of documentation? Because if you just lied to defend a racist murderer, it might be a problem.

FYI, the governing document in psychology is DSM and they still don’t list it as a disorder. As the article states...

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If you can't figure out why determining the motive of the shooter solely based on his race is racist, and ignoring all the evidence to the contrary, I know what you tell you. You're a racist.

People are calling him racist, because every single person he killed is Asian. His race is irrelevant...

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ive already stated above he was a mix of evangelical self hatred based on toxic purity culture and a mysogonist racist because of his targets.

I did not realize he was saying that the shooter was being called racist, because of his race. Ay, caramba...

[Hilhen7]

There's years of documentation showing the sex addiction, but keep going on with your racist circle jerk.

Well cant he be racist and have a sex addiction at the same time...?

Being racist doesn't exclude him from having other issues. Lets for arguments sake agree he has a sex addiction, it still begs the question why only ASIAN massage parlors where targeted. Ergo racist and has a sex addiction. Therefore still a hate crime.

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Except all the reporting, the police, and the FBI are saying otherwise. The shooter was just kicked out of his house because of his sex addiction, had been in a rehab facility for sex addiction a year ago, has a former roommate that attests to him being distraught over his sex addiction, had previously been a customer of the shops he targeted, and was on his way to a porn company in Florida to continue his attack when he was apprehended.

The people that have decided the shooting was racially motivated are the racists.

That's all irrelevant. He specifically targeted Asian massage parlors and specifically killed Asian people. Like there aren't any other sex workers in all of Georgia of other races....

I don't care what he "CLAIMS" he was going to do. So far the people he murdered are Asian, no one knows who else he would have killed when he went to Florida so it wouldn't be smart to make any assumption on what would have happened.

I don't care what his sob story was. Just because you have an issue it doesn't give you the right to target people for murder. As if murdering Asian people is going to cure him of his sex addiction. His justification makes absolutely 0 sense, and people need to stop accepting his reason as valid.

Absolutely no one should care that this murdering psychopath had a bad day. Millions of people have bad days, they don't go out on shooting sprees. Like hey he could of pleasured himself in his basement to Asian porn if he wanted, problem solved.

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Except all the reporting, the police, and the FBI are saying otherwise. The shooter was just kicked out of his house because of his sex addiction, had been in a rehab facility for sex addiction a year ago, has a former roommate that attests to him being distraught over his sex addiction, had previously been a customer of the shops he targeted, and was on his way to a porn company in Florida to continue his attack when he was apprehended.

The people that have decided the shooting was racially motivated are the racists.

Do you have a psychiatric diagnosis of sex addiction to go on that pile, along with treatment recommendations from said psychiatrist?

Because if not, none of this amounts to a hill of beans. Without an official diagnosis, it's just excuse-making by an asshole who refuses to take any personal responsibility for their own poor choices.

No, entry into rehab doesn't count.

I'm not even really concerned with whether it's in the DSM or what organizations recognize it as a legitimate disorder or whatever. Show me an official diagnosis by a licensed professional. Without that, it's just a bullshit story the guy made up to avoid taking responsibility for himself.

Edit: And before anyone says "doctor patient confidentiality!", this guy's making the claim. Providing that diagnosis is how he supports that claim. If he can't, there's no reason to accept it as valid. He can violate that confidentiality all he likes without consequence, and he's already doing so by making the claim, if it's legitimate. So I'm just asking for the documentation to support that.

[Hilhen7]

Do you have a psychiatric diagnosis of sex addiction to go on that pile, along with treatment recommendations from said psychiatrist?

Because if not, none of this amounts to a hill of beans. Without an official diagnosis, it's just excuse-making by an asshole who refuses to take any personal responsibility for their own poor choices.

No, entry into rehab doesn't count.

I'm not even really concerned with whether it's in the DSM or what organizations recognize it as a legitimate disorder or whatever. Show me an official diagnosis by a licensed professional. Without that, it's just a bullshit story the guy made up to avoid taking responsibility for himself.

Edit: And before anyone says "doctor patient confidentiality!", this guy's making the claim. Providing that diagnosis is how he supports that claim. If he can't, there's no reason to accept it as valid. He can violate that confidentiality all he likes without consequence, and he's already doing so by making the claim, if it's legitimate. So I'm just asking for the documentation to support that.

Even if he has a sex addiction it doesn't really matter. That doesn't mean his choice of targets wasn't racially motivated as well.

[Endus]

Even if he has a sex addiction it doesn't really matter. That doesn't mean his choice of targets wasn't racially motivated as well.

Oh, absolutely. I'm definitely gonna argue that the guy's a racist piece of shit, primarily.

The whole "sex addiction" thing just strikes me as an attempt to present himself as some flavor of victim, who was driven to this by factors outside his control. And if he wants to make that case, he can give me the official diagnosis to confirm it. I'll even accept a diagnosis made while he's in prison now, if he wants to go that way.

If he does have that kind of diagnosis, that doesn't mean I'll accept that it drove his actions. But it's a first step to me even considering the possibility. Without a diagnosis, my only response is "pffff, yeah right, you racist fucko".

[Mihalik]

Except all the reporting, the police, and the FBI are saying otherwise. The shooter was just kicked out of his house because of his sex addiction, had been in a rehab facility for sex addiction a year ago, has a former roommate that attests to him being distraught over his sex addiction, had previously been a customer of the shops he targeted, and was on his way to a porn company in Florida to continue his attack when he was apprehended.

The people that have decided the shooting was racially motivated are the racists.

1. Sex addiction is a bullshit excuse for going on a murder spree. Assuming your "addiction" is real... Well fucking chop of your dick or something, leave other people out of your fucking bullshit.

2. As someone else has pointed out... He SPECIFICALLY targeted Asian women for his rampage.

Fetishizing Asian women is racist, the whole submissive Asian woman is a fucking trope in white conservative circles. It's also so fucking rampant that it veers into the realm of normalization.