Suez Canal is Having a Bad Day

[Mihalik]

How do u expect they unload a cargo ship like that without a overhead crane? 40ft container deadweight is 4ton, gonna be a lot of Skycrane Helicopters for this then.

Crane ships exist.

Look up Sleipnir and Thialf or the Saipem 7000.

Tho probably smaller crane ships would suffice anyway as they won't need heavy load cranes for removing containers.

Tho if it's that badly lodged, it's kinda fucked because getting enough crane capacity in place, plus actually unloading the ship will probably take weeks.

[Lanrefni]

Crane ships exist.

Look up Sleipnir and Thialf or the Saipem 7000.

Tho probably smaller crane ships would suffice anyway as they won't need heavy load cranes for removing containers.

Tho if it's that badly lodged, it's kinda fucked because getting enough crane capacity in place, plus actually unloading the ship will probably take weeks.

They'll most likely build a couple ramps near the rear and start sliding boxes off the top of the rear stack,just need some earth movers to make the ramp and some cables to yank containers with,Egypt isn't going to give a shit if the contents are intact or not.

[PC2]

They'll most likely build a couple ramps near the rear and start sliding boxes off the top of the rear stack,just need some earth movers to make the ramp and some cables to yank containers with,Egypt isn't going to give a shit if the contents are intact or not.

I see, that will suck if they end up damaging $50 million in container goods by doing that but the thing is if they're holding up 50 ships per day for more than a week then that could end up costing everybody else $50 million in lost time and opportunity. So it might be a good idea to just accept those damages even from a non-Egyptian perspective. It depends on what the Evergreen is carrying though.

[Mihalik]

They'll most likely build a couple ramps near the rear and start sliding boxes off the top of the rear stack,just need some earth movers to make the ramp and some cables to yank containers with,Egypt isn't going to give a shit if the contents are intact or not.

Doubtful.

That's a lot of earthworks. Would literally take longer to pull off than just waiting for a couple of crane ships.

Those cargo ships are the height of 10+ floor building, higher when loaded and about 400m long. Moving around the containers like that is a massive structural hazard with other words, you can make it worse.

Again just digging the ship out is probably the fastest and easiest way to deal with this.

Nobody gives a flying fuck about the cargo at this junction. In a few days worth of delays the cost of the delays itself will exceed the monetary value of the whole ship+cargo.

[Corvus]

Just an example of the effect of this - every day 600k barrels of oil are shipped through the Suez from the middle east to Europe. The day after this happened oil spiked almost 5%.

[Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang]

How has nobody posted this yet...

https://twitter.com/matthewchampion/...09611715031041



This is hilarious.

Did the captain's wife leave him with the kids or what?

[Slant]

The canal is completely shut down now as they try to free the ship. The ppl in charge say it could be next week before this is over so companies are contemplating adding a week of travel time by sending their cargo around Africa. Fun times.

Apparently they were able to route some traffic through an older side channel. It's interesting to see how they deal with this. I always wondered what would happen if the channel got blocked. What happened during the war with Israel? Surely the channel was blocked then, too. Considerate of the Israelis to end the war after 6 days, if you think about it.

[Milchshake]

I'm kinda hoping someone goes over to that one sand bank and writes, "I'm the captain now."

Then hand that person an Oscar.


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Not to be outdone, a beaver at the Royal York station's Grenview entrance in Toronto has shut down the subway.



/joke

[Frolk]

Crane ships exist.

Look up Sleipnir and Thialf or the Saipem 7000.

Tho probably smaller crane ships would suffice anyway as they won't need heavy load cranes for removing containers.

Tho if it's that badly lodged, it's kinda fucked because getting enough crane capacity in place, plus actually unloading the ship will probably take weeks.

Ye, non of those seems like a viable solution, it would prolly take weeks to haul any crane down there in the first place, and in that time im sure its already fixed, or i hope so, cuz i want my damn thing i ordered some weeks ago.

[Rasulis]

Like I said, they deal with it by either waiting or sending the ships around Africa. The latter adds a week of travel time/fuel costs to the trip.

Pirates. They have to deal with heavily pirated water by going around Africa.

[Mihalik]

Pirates. They have to deal with heavily pirated water by going around Africa.

Uhm. No. Actually going around Africa is the safer route from piracy.

A quick geography reminder.

The piracy issues are most prominent in the Gulf Aden. The Gulf of Aden is the bit connecting the Arabian Sea to the Indian Ocean.

The Suez Canal connects the Mediterranean with the Arabian Sea.

Pirates have in the past ranged into the Indian Ocean somewhat, but to a much lesser degree than inside the Gulf of Aden.

If you circumnavigate Africa, and don't specifically need to get near the Horn or Yemen you can sail away from the coast and out of pirate range.

On the other hand shipping crossing the Suez Canal has no choice but sailing cross the Gulf of Aden and between Yemen and Somalia to exit into the Indian Ocean, and the same for shipping trying to enter the Arabian Sea from the Indian Ocean.

[Milchshake]

UPdate, TTC beaver has returned to the wild.

Good luck Egypt.

[Forogil]

It took longer for the ship than for the beaver, but now Ever Given is also refloated and have started the engines and will soon be moved to the Great Lakes area they say.
https://www.reuters.com/article/egyp...-idUSC6N2J002H

[Ihavewaffles]

We could paint it like a Syrian hospital, then Assad or Russia would bomb it! /s

We should write Yemen on the ship so u can bomb n starve its crew.

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The canal is completely shut down now as they try to free the ship. The ppl in charge say it could be next week before this is over so companies are contemplating adding a week of travel time by sending their cargo around Africa. Fun times.

Faster to go from eu to china by the northern sea route, and no pirates.

[Yadryonych]

They'll most likely build a couple ramps near the rear and start sliding boxes off the top of the rear stack,just need some earth movers to make the ramp and some cables to yank containers with,Egypt isn't going to give a shit if the contents are intact or not.

Quite contrary, it is important for them to be intact to build a proper pyramid

[Ihavewaffles]

Now do every other country they may be attempting to reach via the Suez.

Well, i was thinking of ships yet to sail

[kaid]

whelp looks like the high tide and a lot of digging/dredging got the job done. They got the stern free yesterday and looks like they got the bow unstuck today and it is proceeding down the canal. I am guessing there are a lot of sailors in the huge pack of queued ships that are happy that there is some light at the end of the tunnel now but its still going to be a week or more until the backlog fully clears.

[Ihavewaffles]

I wonder if they will widen that canal, seems pretty narrow with such fatties trying to get through..

[Zan15]

I wonder if they will widen that canal, seems pretty narrow with such fatties trying to get through..

they would be better off building a second canal

its actually much wider than you think

could fit at least two ships at a time if you had too. just not sideways

[Forogil]

they would be better off building a second canal

its actually much wider than you think

could fit at least two ships at a time if you had too. just not sideways

True, and they actually widened it recently so that they can and do fit two ships at a time (going in different directions).

It seems most ships that have problems to fit is due to the vertical direction: both depth and height.