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    I kind of want the Forsaken to get a city near the Blood Elf and connect those two races more, maybe a small city at the end of the Dead Scar (there's even a big enough Scourge outpost that can be used by them) or maybe in the city that was used by the Scarlet Crusade nearby can also do the trick (the one Arthas DKs destroyed).

    The Vulpera are a nomad race, so you can just add some caravans here and there and its done.

    The Gnomes just need to finish up retaking Gnomeran and/or connect the small area they conquered with the Mechagnome city

    Worgen need to retake Gilneas and then share the city with the Night Elf, to connect those groups a little bit more and at the same time, to be some sort of pay back, as the NE gave them a place to stay and call "home" when they lost Gilneas, maybe the Night Elf can make an outpost near the three where they helped the Worgen with the curse.

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    Before Blizzard removed the RPG books from canon, it was said that Nighthaven was the capital city of the kaldorei before they built Darnassus. I think that'd make sense. Retool it, revamp it, have a Cenarion Circle plot at the edge of town where Horde druids are welcome, all good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrouded View Post
    Before Blizzard removed the RPG books from canon, it was said that Nighthaven was the capital city of the kaldorei before they built Darnassus. I think that'd make sense. Retool it, revamp it, have a Cenarion Circle plot at the edge of town where Horde druids are welcome, all good.
    I've always wondered why were the RPG books removed from canon instead of iterating and building the world around them. They certainly do have a lot of flavour, even to this day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    I've always wondered why were the RPG books removed from canon instead of iterating and building the world around them. They certainly do have a lot of flavour, even to this day.
    I think so too. And I much, much, MUCH prefer the Holy Light as presented in those books where it's a human philosophy rather than a cosmic force.

  5. #25
    Draenei live in the ship they crashed into Azeroth. It seems to do the trick, but as they're quite good at building cities and infrastructure I think they should do that for their isles.

    Vulpera could get more permanent accommodations in Dazar'Alor, as the Zandalari are now more open towards other races and cultures, accepting the Horde and even having a tortolla in the Zanchuli council.

    I think the Mag'har can just carve out a proper district for themselves in Orgrimmar and call it a day. And maybe give the pandas something more than a tent at a busy crossing while you're at it.

    With the war over, Sylvanas gone, Genn being more sympathetic towards the Forsaken, maybe strike out a deal that the Forsaken clean Gilneas up so that the worgen can return to their home. I can see Voss and Calia feeling it considering the former is ashamed of their deeds in war and the latter is a general carebear.

    Don't really know what to do for the night elves, as their old place is torched. Out of their lands Darkshore would be most in their control and best to house their new capital, buuut... I just don't see it. Darkshore was returned to relevance for a brief period due to the war, but putting a capital's worth of resources there now feels like bad use since it's over and done with. Perhaps we ought to get creative: In lore have most of night elf civilians live in smaller accommodations around Darkshore, Ashenvale and Hyjal and place the central leadership and operational capability to a fresh HQ somewhere new. Let's say Blizzard pulls another continent out of their ass, like Dragon Isles? Have the night elves create a capital there and it would then also act as Alliance's base of operations for that expansion. A similar Forsaken one for the Horde maybe, but then again they have more options, since Undercity just needs a clean up, then there's the whole Alterac theory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuben View Post
    Let's say Blizzard pulls another continent out of their ass, like Dragon Isles? Have the night elves create a capital there and it would then also act as Alliance's base of operations for that expansion.
    I think realistically that's the best Nelfs and UD's can hope for as far as in-game representation goes; A new expansion that could give them new cities as part of the expansion's central hub. Blizzard going out of their way to replace the destroyed cities seems very unlikely. That's the problem with these major events that changes the world, it tends to get the players stuck in a new status-quo void. Like the races dealing with the Catalysm damages for 10 years.

    I could easily see a world where Blizzard just lets the Nelfs live on the street of Stormwind for a decade. It's how they treat the other non-human or Orc races anyway.

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    World building in WoW, in 2021? Don't you guys have a Stormwind / Orgrimmar?

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    I've always thought the trolls could use a 'proper' capital instead od just living in Org. Let them have Zul'Gurub or something
    I don't play WoW anymore smh.

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    But what about the attack on the high elves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bwonsamdi the Dead View Post
    I've always thought the trolls could use a 'proper' capital instead od just living in Org. Let them have Zul'Gurub or something
    DS trolls actually have Echo Isles, which imo do the trick for a less "civilised" (unlike e.g. the Zandalari) brand of trolls such as the Darkspear. It is, however, in dire need of a visual revamp in order to depict it as what actually is, the main bastion of the DS after having emigrated to Kalimdor.

    Ditto for Gnomeregan and Gnomes.
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    The Shend'dralar owe the Night Elves for their hospitality, just after Cataclysm, in the wake of the Horde taking Dire Maul. I could see Dreamer's Rest, Feathermoon Stronghold, the Lower Wilds and Eldre'thalas serving as fine hubs for the disparate remnants of Druids, Sentinels, Watchers and Highborne, respectively. Not sure what to do with the remaining Order of Elune, not sure what their state of play will be after Tyrande's resolution in SL.

    Gnomeregan is the obvious choice for the Gnomes, I agree, though I kind of like that it's been left irradiated. It's good to be able to lose sometimes and that loss has to be lasting to be meaningful. I think tidying up Mechagon and, perhaps, creating a series of dimensional folds to using a combination of precise arcana and Gnomish mechgineering to create a nautical cross-rail to Stormwind harbour and other Alliance POIs may be cooler.

    Gazlowe is still in charge of Ratchet, as far as I'm aware, and I doubt that he'd cease allowing free-movement and trade through the central port of Kalimdor. He could leverage the strength of the Horde and his newly acquired stake in the Bilgewater Cartel to defend and fortify this port, whilst leveraging good-faith neutrality to continue to allow it to serve as a freeport. After all, nothing is quite as Goblin as leaving Project: Azshara half finished because the money moved elsewhere.

    With the Bilgewater's all but abandoning Azshara, I can easily see the Mag'har running salvage there and fostering ties with the native Furbolg and Elementals in the region. Especially with the (presumably) reduced Naga presence in the zone after Queen Azshara's absence. I want to see Geyarah go down a similar but better-ending path than Garrosh did. The contested borders of Ashenvale could serve as a fine test of character for the new Orcish leader.

    The Vulpera specialise in logistics and transport, and they thrive in a desert. I love the idea that, in relative peace time, the Great Divide in The Barrens has been healed over, landscaped and nurtured into a new "Gold Road". A long, naturally defensible and prosperous strip of market enclaves with natural springs, waterfalls pouring from the oases and a large mercenary and trader presence. All Horde races would come here to safely traverse the hostile landscape from coastal to central Kalimdor, particularly arriving in Ratchet and then making their way to Stonetalon, Mulgore or Ashenvale. This would serve as a critical artery of the Horde's future: Providing a point of trade with both Alliance and Third-Party forces in relative safety. The Vulpera would not necessarily have a "home" but their caravanning on behalf of the traders here would earn them significant influence and protection. I can imagine their convoys lining the precipices of the Great Divide, coming and going at all hours.

    And, yeah, give the Worgen back Gilneas. The rain has surely washed away all that blight. What are the Horde going to do? Send the Blood Elves to stop them? All of Lordaeron seems practically abandoned right now. And surely the Humans won Alterac back?

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by thesmall001 View Post
    The Shend'dralar owe the Night Elves for their hospitality, just after Cataclysm, in the wake of the Horde taking Dire Maul. I could see Dreamer's Rest, Feathermoon Stronghold, the Lower Wilds and Eldre'thalas serving as fine hubs for the disparate remnants of Druids, Sentinels, Watchers and Highborne, respectively.
    I do wonder if Blizzard just forgot about Feathermoon Stronghold. After the Cataclysm revamp it's one of the largest gatherings of Nelf forces on Azeroth (by in-game representation anyway). Would the Nelfs really rather live on the streets of Stormwind than evacuate to their own major fortress?

  13. #33
    Feathermoon Stronghold is, as the names suggests, a Stronghold. It's a military fortress, not a city of any sorts.

    I would say, that Eldre'Thalas would be the city where the civilian night elves and worgen would go, because it is a proper city, but I wonder whether they want to use Eldre'Thalas. I mean, it doesn't seem be laid-out like how the other capital cities are laid.

    It might be better for them to use Hyjal and build a city around Nordrassil's roots and the Well of Eternity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    Feathermoon Stronghold is, as the names suggests, a Stronghold. It's a military fortress, not a city of any sorts.

    I would say, that Eldre'Thalas would be the city where the civilian night elves and worgen would go, because it is a proper city, but I wonder whether they want to use Eldre'Thalas. I mean, it doesn't seem be laid-out like how the other capital cities are laid.

    It might be better for them to use Hyjal and build a city around Nordrassil's roots and the Well of Eternity.
    It's of course well established in both history and fiction that the civil population can seek shelter in military fortifications/encampments during a time of war or unrest. A great number of cities we have in the world today started as just military encampments that expanded over time.
    Point being that the Nelfs already have significant resources on the ground there and it being by the coast fairly close to Teldrassil (compared to Stormwind anyway) it does seem like something they would have considered. Placing them in Stormwind just seems so lazy and human-centric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardRoe View Post
    It's of course well established in both history and fiction that the civil population can seek shelter in military fortifications/encampments during a time of war or unrest. A great number of cities we have in the world today started as just military encampments that expanded over time.
    Point being that the Nelfs already have significant resources on the ground there and it being by the coast fairly close to Teldrassil (compared to Stormwind anyway) it does seem like something they would have considered. Placing them in Stormwind just seems so lazy and human-centric.
    But we're not in a time of war at present.
    Plus, that Stronghold is massively overlooked by the Horde encampments.

    I also don't like the idea of the bulk of the night elf people moving so far South, when the heart of their homelands are in the North West of Kalimdor.
    I think, what Blizzard could do is make Darkshore and the very northern city, Mathystra, is rebuilt and connects to Bashal-Aran and this is where the civilians as well as Worgen, Void Elf and Human visitors can be located.

    With current Mathystra in ruins, it would be easier to use it as the new city because you can plan where the new AH, new vendors, class trainers, the bank and everything a functional city would need.
    Plus, this follows on from the battle for Darkshore.

    It's possible, the new base where Tyrande and Malfurion stand is a newly built Temple, that covers the entire Well of Eternity atop of Hyjal and under Nordrassil.
    Maiev, Bob Evenshade, Jarod, Shandris, Mia Greymane as well as others remain in Darkshore.

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    The Night Elves have retaken their homelands, they are already starting to make Mount Hyjal their new capital, maybe they'll also settle back in Dire Maul.

    Gnomes, Worgens will eventually go back to their homes once Blizzard stop being lazy when it comes to Gnomeregan and Gilneas' storylines.

    Bilgewater will eventually be recognised as a proper city and capital, it should have been the case a long time ago.

    Mag'har will settle with their MU brethren in Durotar and the Barrens.

    And Vulperas will stay nomadic, unless they get welcomed into Dazar'alor as least part of the time.

  17. #37
    All Blizzard will do is continue to shove everyone into SW and Org, because that's less work. Prime example, we're TOLD in a book that Gilneas is being cleaned up. That's not remotely shown in game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terrorthatflapsinthenight View Post
    The Night Elves have retaken their homelands, they are already starting to make Mount Hyjal their new capital, maybe they'll also settle back in Dire Maul.
    They have only taken Darkshore, a smoking plagued ruin. No word on Ashenvale, and Hyjal won't be remade from a Cata leveling zone to a proper capital.
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    Too bad they don't give a shit about those details and consistency, it would be good to revamp the races all together, characters, models, racial leaders models, their capitals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feanoro View Post
    All Blizzard will do is continue to shove everyone into SW and Org, because that's less work. Prime example, we're TOLD in a book that Gilneas is being cleaned up. That's not remotely shown in game.

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    They have only taken Darkshore, a smoking plagued ruin. No word on Ashenvale, and Hyjal won't be remade from a Cata leveling zone to a proper capital.
    As a world WoW is quite stagnate and feels rather dead in general

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    Too bad they don't give a shit about those details and consistency, it would be good to revamp the races all together, characters, models, racial leaders models, their capitals
    I totally agree. The allied races were a mistake. There should've been more customisation options for the races we've got. Some allied races are missing their leaders, homeland and overall their whole identity.
    Most of them will be neglected, such as Vulpera or Mecha-gnomes, didn't hear about them in any other canon source other than game... I cannot even imagine how they could look in the cinematics and I'm pretty sure that Blizz will never add them in one.

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