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    Quote Originally Posted by WowIsDead64 View Post
    So, you have unstable (aka bad) sectors? How many? Can you show us you SMART report? In a best case this errors will be corrected by full surface test. Well, not corrected, but transfered from "unstable" to "relocated" state. Right click your drive, click "Properties", choose "Tools" tab, then "Error-checking", press "Check now...", set "Scan for and attempt recovery of bad sectors" option, click "Start". Option names may depend on Windows version. You can achieve the same result via following command line: "chkdsk <disk> /F /R". You will most likely be prompted to schedule check on next reboot. Confirm it and then reboot. Whole process can take several hours depending on disk size.

    If problem won't be fixed, i.e. more bad sectors will appear with time - it's time to replace your disk.
    It says I don't need to scan the drive, because it's fine.

    I also did WMIC diskdrive get status model, and it says my drive is fine.
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    If you have more than one drive (HDD or SDD) in your computer, an option would be to go into Windows Settings to put the swap file on the other drive.

    I suggest this as a temporary step to see what is causing the issue, moving the swap file to a slower drive will probably slow your computer down.

    Also, check your virus scanner as you may need to tell it to not scan certain files. At work we had one program that was constantly saving a variable in a new file so it was writing that file many times a second, and the virus scanner would check it each time. When it was added to the Do Not Scan list, the performance went back to normal.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by CastletonSnob View Post
    It says I don't need to scan the drive, because it's fine.

    I also did WMIC diskdrive get status model, and it says my drive is fine.
    If you have something like this, then it's not ok.



    Despite of "Status: GOOD", this disk is almost dead. Because it's quick surface test looks like this:



    Please, do full surface test. It's only way, that can possibly help.
    Last edited by WowIsDead64; 2021-03-30 at 07:55 PM.

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    OP - you need to provide some basic info here. To wit - how much free space does your drive have on boot up? Forget all the stuff above for a minute... are you or are you not very low on actual disk space?

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    My disk says it has 703 GB free of 917 GB.

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    HardDiskSentinel said my drive's health is at 85%, which is apparently "Excellent".

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    Quote Originally Posted by CastletonSnob View Post
    My disk says it has 703 GB free of 917 GB.

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    HardDiskSentinel said my drive's health is at 85%, which is apparently "Excellent".
    OK, so... question. Do you just have the one disk? I know some people put OS and programs on an SSD and then data on a larger HD. Can you capture the error next time it comes up? Obviously your 1 terabyte disk isn't close to full... but if there's a small SSD or something for the OS and programs, that's low and you're writing the swap to it... that could be an issue.

    Alternatively, if the error d says something more descriptive, that will help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrea View Post
    I understand that.

    The hard drive being full (or close to full) can affect how large Windows makes your swap file, which can cause this exact issue.

    Please don't condescend to me about this kind of thing as if you are pointing out something I don't already know. I was troubleshooting this kind of stuff while your parents were still in grade school.
    Then you should know any and all of those are valid reasons for a disk to be running all the time. Also malware and viruses can cause this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    I mean they didn't have these things when my parents were in grade school lmfao :P, so try a better insult next time
    Yes, they did. Computers had hard drives back in the late 80's and early 90's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ringthane View Post
    yes, they did. Computers had hard drives back in the late 80's and early 90's.
    lol......... you're about 30 years off still
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  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by CastletonSnob View Post
    HardDiskSentinel said my drive's health is at 85%, which is apparently "Excellent".
    Unfortunately this value isn't accurate. Read about SMART in internet. It's usually calculated from SMART values as "(Value-Threshold)/(MaxValue-Threshold)" ratios. But some values are "deadly" despite of good ratios, while others can be irrelevant despite of bad values (like raw read error rate on Seagate disks). My screenshots are greatest example. Attribute 197 (or C5 in hex) is shown as 93% health (or 4 "stars"), but this disk is actually DEAD. Because ANY amount of bad sectors on disk, that isn't 0 - is BAD and can cause problems. It caused constant computer hanging, Check Disk wasn't able to fix this problems and therefore this disk was replaced by new one.

    You still need to perform full surface test. And you need to use Check Disk for it. Because since XP or Vista 3rd party tools can't have raw write access to your disks. They can perform read surface test, but can't fix errors. Only bootable versions can, but they aren't reliable enough. And there are two possibilities here: hardware or software recover. If disk's controller is capable of performing hardware recover, all bad sectors should be transferred from attribute 197 to attribute 5, i.e. "relocated count". Bad sectors are internally replaced by reserved sectors from end of disk. If not, sectors stay "bad" and they're marked as bad in disk's file system and never used again.

    If new bad sectors appear with time - then disk is dead and should be replaced ASAP.
    Last edited by WowIsDead64; 2021-03-31 at 08:26 AM.

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    What does ur ram say? Is that also on 100%?

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    I have a laptop that dell put a cheapo hdd in and it constantly locks up every time windows does an update because it maxes out the drive, by contrast my pc I built with all ssds never has this issue. if its not a harddrive though it might be your ssd doesn't have a dram cache and thus is bogging down too

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    Quote Originally Posted by talwynn View Post
    I've seen alot of this in Dell machines. Even brand new straight out of the box, their hard drives jump to 100% utilization. Dell's suggestion is to check your power settings, then also consider disabling Windows Search, Sysmain (This used to be called Superfetch, it preloads common apps into RAM), and Prefetch services. These repairs have been spotty at best, and I have been looking for a consistent fix for months.

    its the shitty hdds they spec, made worse by the way their site works forcing you to upgrade a lot to get a decent ssd in this age of m.2 nvme drives that cost next to nothing

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    I've had this problem with 2 pcs in my house and about 100 or so at my pc repair shop , I tried all the "fixes" , the 100 percent disk usage is a bug in Windows 10 that can happen to any pc, some of the suggestions can work but from my experience the only thing that worked for me was switching the windows install to an ssd or reinstalling windows (but that's not a 100 percent fix as I've only had that work on one pc so far).

    The fixes and troubleshooting people are suggesting is worth trying first such as stopping the superfetch service and other junk like that but none of them have worked for me.

    I dont think it's your hdd dying or not enough ram but it's always best to check everything first before reinstalling.

    The number 1 solution I give anyone with the problem that can't fix it is get an ssd it only needs to be big enough for windows, like 60gigs and keep a big hdd for games and programs.

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    You just can't run a win10 on HDD anymore. SSD is a must.

    Tinfoil hatters usually say its microsoft stealing your personal data, but in reality its just absurdly unoptimised services like Superfetch and Defender running in a background. You know, the real, professional coders would code background stuff so it runs in background never taking more than 10% of your system resources. But microsoft has none of that people, so we've got what we got. Don't even get me started on horrific fucking disaster of windows update process...

    TL_DR: Just get a 120gb cheapest ssd for your system and you will be golden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by l33t View Post
    You just can't run a win10 on HDD anymore. SSD is a must.

    Tinfoil hatters usually say its microsoft stealing your personal data, but in reality its just absurdly unoptimised services like Superfetch and Defender running in a background. You know, the real, professional coders would code background stuff so it runs in background never taking more than 10% of your system resources. But microsoft has none of that people, so we've got what we got. Don't even get me started on horrific fucking disaster of windows update process...

    TL_DR: Just get a 120gb cheapest ssd for your system and you will be golden.
    i always found its the update service, you know the one that does whatever it wants regardless of your settings

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    Quote Originally Posted by l33t View Post
    You just can't run a win10 on HDD anymore. SSD is a must.
    Never say never.. You can. It's not a pleasant time and you shouldn't do it, but you can.

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