Quiet Progressivism of the American Jobs Plan

[Milchshake]

Funny thing about the 1932 election. FDR didnt run as a radical, he pushed his policies more like common sense solutions to the glaring poverty of the time. The current administration feels similar in many ways.
Joe Biden’s $2 trillion infrastructure and jobs plan, explained
Reading into the newly announced $2 Trillion American Jobs Plan. There's some very progressive proposals packed in

• $174 billion for the electric vehicle market, starting with 50,000 electric school buses (sounds like a very MVP Harris idea).
• Having the federal government transition it's entire fleet to electric vehicles - from post office trucks and park ranger vehicles to the FBI to the Secret Service.

This kind of economy-of-scale thinking makes it much easier for the private sector to shift to a new market.

The $20 billion racial justice plank of the American Jobs Plan looks absolutely incredible.
Funds dedicated specifically for tearing down highways that cut off access to communities of color.
This will transform neighborhoods from the South Bronx to Atlanta to Houston.
$111 billion for clean water infrastructure, including $45 billion for replacing all lead pipes and $56 billion for water treatment and sewage treatment plants.

"Listen Sport, you want a Green New Deal? Really? You want a Green New Deal? You want young people to get involved planting forests and building trails? I'm building a new CCC - how about 'dem apples?"

$16 billion specifically for plugging abandoned oil wells, gas wells, and coal mines. People dont realize how much methane and other GHG comes from these.

Paying for this in part by raising the corporate tax rate from 21% to 28%, and setting a global minimum tax for multinational corporations.


Reforming the Tax Code to eliminate all of the tax giveaways for the oil & gas industry. Tax Code as it now stands gives tens of billions of dollars in completely unnecessary tax subsidies for oil & gas companies.

[Mayhem]

I hope they also plan to upgrade their electrical lines and overall power grid because adding just more load onto it is probably not the best idea when there are power outages on a daily basis.

[Milchshake]

I hope they also plan to upgrade their electrical lines and overall power grid because adding just more load onto it is probably not the best idea when there are power outages on a daily basis.

I recommend reading through it. There's some very obvious good policies. The less obvious ones are even more pleasant.

[Themius]

Let's stop painting 21% to 28% like some great "raise" It was 35% and it was cut to 21%... why the fuck is MSM running this as "raising back to 28%" something I've literally seen when it wasn't fucking 28% it was 35%.

It's erasure that makes the raise to 28% look ground breaking when really it is a literal half measure.

[PC2]

Short-term boosts are short-term boosts. It's the usual.

Funds dedicated specifically for tearing down highways that cut off access to communities of color.

Is this a metaphor or do they not know about on-ramps, overpasses, underpasses, etc. There's always a creative solution to these issues but maybe in this case they're just targeting old or unused highways?

"Listen Sport, you want a Green New Deal? Really? You want a Green New Deal? You want young people to get involved planting forests and building trails? I'm building a new CCC - how about 'dem apples?"

This is called government 'busy work'. It's not how you actually save the environment and it's just about making people "feel good".

[Edge-]

This is called government 'busy work'. It's not how you actually save the environment and it's just about making people "feel good".

It employs tons of folks with good paying jobs which is beneficial for the economy, and a lot of those smaller scale projects may not have national impacts but will have very beneficial local impacts.

[Milchshake]

Short-term boosts are short-term boosts. It's the usual.



Is this a metaphor or do they not know about on-ramps, overpasses, underpasses, etc. There's always a creative solution to these issues but maybe in this case they're just targeting old or unused highways?


This is called government 'busy work'. It's not how you actually save the environment and it's just about making people "feel good".

We realize you have no independent thought about actually saving the environment. It's all hot air and feigned concern from your comment.

Planting forests (Reforestation in STEM speak) is one of the best strategies for saving the environment. Trees are the most cost effective means for carbon sequestration. Plus a whole bunch technical bonus features.

Sorry

[Sorensen]

We realize you have no independent thought about actually saving the environment. It's all hot air and feigned concern from your comment.

Planting forests (Reforestation in STEM speak) is one of the best strategies for saving the environment. Trees are the most cost effective means for carbon sequestration. Plus a whole bunch technical bonus features.

Sorry

Yeah but they do need to put the right trees in the right places so we don't have another thing like what happened in Scotland in the 80s/90s.

[Yadryonych]

$174 billion for the electric vehicle market, starting with 50,000 electric school buses (sounds like a very MVP Harris idea).
Having the federal government transition it's entire fleet to electric vehicles - from post office trucks and park ranger vehicles to the FBI to the Secret Service.

Sounds more like a Musk and other Automotive industry cronies idea. Sweet money from the government

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It employs tons of folks with good paying jobs which is beneficial for the economy, and a lot of those smaller scale projects may not have national impacts but will have very beneficial local impacts.

Wait so the money given to large government contractors will finally trickle down to the tons of folks? The joe is really a magical man, he can even make trickle-down work if you are a true believer

[Edge-]

Wait so the money given to large government contractors

No, the government would employ them.

The joe is really a magical man, he can even make trickle-down work if you are a true believer

No, you just don't appear to understand the initiative.

[Themius]

No, the government would employ them.



No, you just don't appear to understand the initiative.

Which we absolutely need more of. I strongly approve of the government hiring people for projects. I detest the idea of giving federal dollars to private companies who have a profit motive as if the almighty profit motive is what makes things work...

[Milchshake]

No, the government would employ them.



No, you just don't appear to understand the initiative.

Ya I dunno how to explain this to people that have lived under Putin for 25 years.

The US has a history with reforestation, longer than the most of the world. We also invented national forest and national parks. Plans for reforestation came soon after. Setting aside money from government timber sales for replanting. The USDA hiring hoedad crews for replanting contracts.

But there's this weird singularity event. Causing online people to only know about politics from 2015.

[Yadryonych]

No, you just don't appear to understand the initiative.

True, it takes being a true sleeping bull joe tribesman mentality to be exulted in regular government affairs

[Edge-]

True

You could have just stopped there, dude.

[PC2]

We realize you have no independent thought about actually saving the environment. It's all hot air and feigned concern from your comment.

Planting forests (Reforestation in STEM speak) is one of the best strategies for saving the environment. Trees are the most cost effective means for carbon sequestration. Plus a whole bunch technical bonus features.

Sorry

Okay well I'm skeptical that new trees will end up being the preferred way to sequester Carbon but if it's the best way then yeah we can just grow more forests over time as we bring the cost of everything down. One day in the future all the brown regions in the map below can be covered with trees, if that's what people want.

[Edge-]

One day in the future all the brown regions in the map below can be covered with trees, if that's what people want.

Ignoring local climates isn't a part of the program. They're not gonna be planting millions of redwoods in Death Valley, dude.

[Milchshake]

Okay well I'm skeptical that new trees will end up being the preferred way to sequester Carbon but if it's the best way then yeah we can just grow more forests over time as we bring the cost of everything down. One day in the future all the brown regions in the map below can be covered with trees, if that's what people want.

No one is saying that. But grats, you made effort in Straw Man.

[Felya]

True, it takes being a true sleeping bull joe tribesman mentality to be exulted in regular government affairs

This is either mixing contradicting idioms or you are making a bulldozer joke...

[PC2]

Ignoring local climates isn't a part of the program. They're not gonna be planting millions of redwoods in Death Valley, dude.

The climate is not our master and it cannot control us, we will control the climate. If we want to obtain more water and build a forest there then we will. You need to stop thinking so small and have a more ambitious vision of the future.

[Sorensen]

The climate is not our master and it cannot control us, we will control the climate. If we want to obtain more water and build a forest there then we will. You need to stop thinking so small and have a more ambitious vision of the future.

Have you ever heard of a hurricane, or snow?

Climate has been influential on humans the whole time.