I don't remember where I ready this, but Ursoc and Ysera were one of the last beings to enter the Shadowlands. If true, that means it happened way before the attack on Argus.
Remember, too, that the way anima magic in Revendreth takes on a blood red color, the same color as whatever it was that hit the Arbiter, and wouldn't you know it, but Sire Denathrius has been secretly siphoning Revendreth anima to the Maw for some time, now. So, as far as I understand it, this was something done by Sire Denathrius, guided by the Jailer.
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i am still going with arbiter was attacked.
Argus makes zero sense.
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It was specificially that Ysera was in the last batch of wild seeds to arrive. Ursoc we only know due to the the Ardenweald animation, but had no particular information on when it happened attached. Though given the events of Val'sharah, he would necessarily have to have arrived in the same batch.
We can pretty much rule out Xavius due to this however, since there was at least some time between their arrival and the drought. Xavius would have been killed shortly after Ursoc.
This isn't a new theory, it's even written down on wowpedia as one of the theories. The other being Remornia, Xavius and Gul'dan.
I guess we'll find out eventually.
Yes, we've know it's likely been Argus for a while. He was the Titan of death. The question is why
no offense, but: a lot of ppl here have waaaay too much faith in Blzzards writing. you interpret way too much in these things. as always.
ppl speculate „what it could be“, „how crazy“, „whats going on“, on all that crazy stuff. and in 99% of the time it was just plain simple writing and nothing special happened. no greater story, super secret or whatever behind it. and its always the same. and always ppl act like they are awaiting that THIS time there is this special cool story happening and Blizzard willingly putted that small hint here. complete nonsense. Blizzard never did that. they just write simple stories since day 1. and they switch it completely, just for the sake of an xpac design, simply to another story and give a fuck about loose ends. thats all. but ppl interpret whatever shit into this.
so, to be on topic: it was Denathrius. it was nothing special. no greater secret/conspiracy/whatever. and it will not even be confirmed by Blizz that it was just Denathrius, because they will just never loose any word on this. its completely unimportant. stuff goes on, story goes on, some other lame shit happens, and nobody will remember this stuff and nothimg happened with that. thats all.
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Sure, but his point was that blizzard mentioned it in the game, so it is proof that in their eyes he was at least in some respects linked to death.
Which makes it more likely that SL is where he goes when he dies. And being the first death titan it could definitely have some consequences.
Exactly. I mean is Shadowlands subject to time or is it singular like the TN which is hands down one of the worst decisions they ever made and needs to be retconned unlike the ridiculous lengths they went to retcon MU Guldan to make him more like AU Guldan even though AU was supposed to be different for valid lore reasons.
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Not how it works. Or at least how it stands. If what you're saying is true then, Eonar has direct influence over Ardenweald and the others can have direct influence over the other zones. It seems the opposite though, that the titans are only about OUR reality.
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Remember we're dealing with the company who thinks "leave clues and it wasn't" and "leave clues and it was" is a "twist that no one expected". Therefore anything can or cannot happen and they'll say they left clues.
Anima is the essence of every living soul. The Shadowlands is the place, where souls rest (eternally) after parting from their living bodies. If we assume, that anima is needed to sustain the realms of the shadowlands, which are the habitats for the souls, and that the souls perish should their habitats perish, then that gives us 3 options on how anima works:
1. Anima is generated passively by every soul. That would mean that souls are able to sustain themselves in every realm and excess anima is used for other purposes. This would also mean, that there is no real drought and no real danger of any realm "dying". So by that logic this can not be the way anima works, since then anima would equal number of souls collected and no "batteries" as you call it would be needed. Also the maw would be terribly outnumbered. This is not shown ingame.
2. Anima is a fixed value stored in each soul. This is probably how the lore writers think about anima. A soul has a given anima value and is sent into one realm, where this anima is used to do stuff. Problem here is, that we assume it takes anima to sustain a realm. And logically it would take more anima to sustain a realm with more inhabitants (souls). Since souls "live" eternally there will come a point in time where the amount of anima needed to sustain the souls is higher than the possible influx of souls. Meaning that this model also does not make sense, as it inevitably leads to the demise of (parts of) the Shadowlands and works contrary to the fact, that souls exist eternally (peacefully) in the afterlife.
That leaves us with option 3: Souls are able to generate anima, but they lose this generation capability once assigned to a covenant. The anima generation capability is split from the souls and instead stored within oribos, specifically the arbiter, and funneled from there into the different realms of the Shadowlands, depending on how many souls are stored within them. The arbiter functions as the control unit of all the Shadowlands, being able to turn some realms off if they became corrupted (whatever that may imply). Now that the arbiter is broken all anima and souls are funneled into the maw. This is the most logical explanation, yet not reflected ingame.
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He'd had a pawn on Azeroth in the form of Sylvanas ever since Cataclysm. Looking back on her actions since then thru the lens of being his servant the Forsaken's expansion into Silverpine, Gilneas, and Hillsbrad, allowing the factions to walk into an ambush in Legion, up to the Blood War and the burning of the tree play into the Jailer's plans.
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I think there is a list of four or five explanations pinned to a fridge at Blizzard HQ somewhere and at some point Blizzard is going to pick the one that fits with what they want to do next. Hopefully by then they have fully overcome their "we subverted your exspectations!" writing phase and we will get one of the satisfying answers.
Argus would work. Denathrius would work. I think even "it was so many people dying in terror at teldrassil!" would work (right?).
But in the end, how the machiene broke is about as important as how the warp core works. It's a plot device to bring the Enterprise to new planets/us to the shadowlands.
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Damn, I hope it was not Argus. This is how maw got created? So it’s impossible, because we killed him later. Must be someone before we killed Arthas.
Actually it's during the mainstory of ravendreth or maybe just a bit after (at the Skype meeting in oribos) that prince renathal states that it was denathrius that caused the drought.
Pretty much self explanatory to me
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