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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Sorry, Im not a socialist.

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    Nope, you seem to be making up definitions again.
    I bow to your expertise in redefining words to suit your arguments. As a libertarian you are obviously well versed in the practice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I don't

    I value liberty over everything else.
    No you do not. You value privilege. Which you've chosen to call liberty as a redefinition of liberty. This has been explained to you a number of times but you are too obtuse to understand. I'm done.
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    Normal should be reduced in difficulty. Heroic should be reduced in difficulty.
    And the tiny fraction for whom heroic raids are currently well tuned? Too bad,so sad! With the arterial bleed of subs the fastest it's ever been, the vanity development that gives you guys your own content is no longer supportable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Thanks for acknowledging that you'd force a Jewish business owner to serve Nazis, or else lose his business to the government.
    ... yea im done
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osmeric View Post
    Normal should be reduced in difficulty. Heroic should be reduced in difficulty.
    And the tiny fraction for whom heroic raids are currently well tuned? Too bad,so sad! With the arterial bleed of subs the fastest it's ever been, the vanity development that gives you guys your own content is no longer supportable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glorious Leader View Post
    I bow to your expertise in redefining words to suit your arguments. As a libertarian you are obviously well versed in the practice

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    No you do not.
    What definition of libertarian are we talking about. Yours, or the real one?

    This entire conversation is about me supporting liberty.

    People should be free to do whatever they want, so long as they are not harming others.

    Don't get pissed at me, because you despise liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glorious Leader View Post
    ... yea im done
    You're the one who believes this bullshit.

  4. #384
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Well that's one hell of false equivalence.

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    Then why are you for forcing people to be rich to meet basic human needs?
    He wants to nationalize businesses that refuse to serve Nazis.

    Take it up with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Here we go, how about you correct all of us morons with a video of a Libertarian explaining the ideology. Either through debate or a simple lecture.
    I don't really pay much attention to other libertarians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    You're the one who believes this bullshit.
    Your pathetic belief that businesses should have the same liberties as an individual..and should do whatever it wants...when the hell was this ever a good idea? That's a question you'll never answer truthfully.

  6. #386
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Your pathetic belief that businesses should have the same liberties as an individual..and should do whatever it wants...when the hell was this ever a good idea? That's a question you'll never answer truthfully.
    They should not be forced to serve Nazis.

    Yeah, I believe that.

    They should be free to do whatever they want, so long as it does not harm others.

    God damn, it's like I've been saying it all along. You seem to be ignoring that last part.

  7. #387
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    If you actually analyze that stance based on the last 150 years you find that all he's advocating for is slavery. We provide you a house and job. You get paid in company cash. It's never enough to actually comfortably pay for even the necessities so you are indentured for the rest of your life. Welcome to the company. Good luck with the black lung!
    Nope... that's harm

    Try and keep up.

  8. #388
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    If they're the only supplier of food/water/medicine that the Nazi can reach then they're actively harming them by not serving them. Why do you advocate for someone to harm someone else just because they have differing ideologies? Would you refuse to serve me because I don't want to be ruled by corporations like you do?
    He was specifically talking about websites...

    Thank God there's alternatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    They should not be forced to serve Nazis.
    O gee really...that's all you have
    You always say "nazi" when you have nothing else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    O gee really...that's all you have
    You always say "nazi" when you have nothing else.
    That's literally what he supports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Then why do you advocate for it? You literally want to privatize the infrastructure. As such the only way I can gain access to Amazon's roads, with a lowly entry level salary, is to work for Amazon(thanks for the discount God Emperor Bezos!). The only way I can afford to work for them AND gain access to those roads is to live in one of their towns. Then I have to pay for the rest of their infrastructure through them. This is literally all in the history books... have you tried cracking one?

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    Only until we remove all regulation, which you'd prefer. And then Amazon and Google own everything before battling it out in the great Corp War of 2050.
    I don't advocate for slavery, that's just you misrepresenting me... again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    What you literally support is allowing people to die because you don't like the way they think. Literally.
    Nope, he supports forcing business owners to serve Nazis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    What you literally support is allowing people to die because you don't like the way they think. Literally.
    Nope, wrong again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Point out the part where I'm wrong. You want corporations and the extremely wealthy to control infrastructure. Everyone else would be beholden to them.
    The part where you said I support slavery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    That's literally what he supports. - - - Updated - - - I don't advocate for slavery, that's just you misrepresenting me... again.
    You're so full of it... You have nothing going for you but your utter lack of conviction and like "Primary," zero lessons learned from history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Point out the part where I'm wrong. You want corporations and the extremely wealthy to control infrastructure. Everyone else would be beholden to them.

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    Again, you can correct any of these misconceptions. All you do is spam the same bullshit though...
    Why bother? You'll just keep repeating them. How many times did you call me an anarchist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    You're so full of it... You have nothing going for you but your utter lack of conviction and like "Primary," zero lessons learned from history.
    Well, I have not supporting slavery on my side...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Just because you don't understand that that's what you support doesn't make it not true.
    I had no idea you thought socialists support slavery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    I had no idea you thought that I thought you were actually a socialist. Fascinating.
    You called me one.

    Maybe you should be more consistent in your absurd allegations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I had no idea you thought socialists support slavery.
    Your alone here. No one will be convinced by your puerile sophistry.

  18. #398
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Yep, and in the context it was apparent I was baiting you. Maybe you should try to actually answer basic yes or no questions. So, how about that desire to enslave humanity to the wealthy?
    So, you admitted to trolling.

    Good enough for me. I shall treat you accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    I mean, when you openly support slavery while actively denying it all you have left is sophistry.
    Repeating it doesn't make it any more true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Your alone here. No one will be convinced by your puerile sophistry.
    I don't expect socialists to support liberty. Im fine with being alone. I don't base my beliefs on their popularity. If I wanted populism, I would have supported Bernie or Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    No, I admitted to trying to bait you in to actually being definitive for once. I wasn't trying to get an emotional response. I was trying to get you to define your beliefs by mischaraterising them. It's odd that you, of all people, would assume it was trolling. Fucking weird.
    Well, when you are willing to be honest, and stop lying, then we can chat.

    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Right, you base your beliefs on those with the money should be held above those without. Can't pay for a road? Get fucked. Can't pay for the vaccine? Get fucked. Can't pay for electricity or running water? Better get to melting that snow Texas!
    Nope, that's just what people who hate the wealthy say.

    You clearly don't understand incrementalism. Start simple, by stopping spending increases.

    That's simple enough.

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