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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuor View Post
    Its only the best indicator for freedom of speech...
    Not really... considering issues like speech restrictions have already been brought up. Sure, they are close, but it doesn't cover things like obscenity laws, or punishing people for rude speech, as you put it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Not really... considering issues like speech restrictions have already been brought up. Sure, they are close, but it doesn't cover things like obscenity laws, or punishing people for rude speech, as you put it.
    You still haven't understood, THERE ARE no limitation in expressing your thinking in Portugal... Can't say the same for the US...

    A portuguese cartoon censored in the US...
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/new-yo...mitic-cartoon/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuor View Post
    You still haven't understood, THERE ARE no limitation in expressing your thinking in Portugal... Can't say the same for the US...

    A portuguese cartoon censored in the US...
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/new-yo...mitic-cartoon/
    That's not the government censoring anything. This is literally editorial discretion at a newspaper

    I have seen this cartoon multiple times, so its clear the government isn't censoring it.

    President Biden is a racist Nazi. There, I just said it about the leader of my country. Let's see you do the same with your leader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    That's not the government censoring anything. This is literally editorial discretion at a newspaper
    That is why your country scored so low in the link i provided.

    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    President Biden is a racist Nazi. There, I just said it about the leader of my country. Let's see you do the same with your President.
    President Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa is fucking toying with democracy with is State of emergency declarations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuor View Post
    That is why your country scored so low in the link i provided.


    President Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa is fucking toying with democracy with is State of emergency declarations.
    Call him a racist Nazi.

    Cannot bring yourself to do it... can you? Or, are you simply privately editorializing your words, this nullifying your last argument?

    If you had actually read your own source, it's because of Trump's attacks on the media.

    Luckily, that racist Nazi is gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Call him a racist Nazi.
    Well, he isn't a racist at all, but i can do better. Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa is a stupid God believer. There...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuor View Post
    Well, he isn't a racist at all, but i can do better. Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa is a stupid God believer. There...
    You do realize you keepmproving me right... don't you?

    We are ready acutely aware of the rapper jailed for insulting the monarchy.

    That doesn't sound like free speech to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    We are ready acutely aware of the rapper jailed for insulting the monarchy.
    Thanks for proving to everyone you totally dump, i just told you the name of my President, and now you argue that my country is a monarchy? That was in Spain, My country is not Spain.

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    The censorship on Twitter has gone too far! The free speech fighter MTG, was coerced into deleting her support of Matt Gaetz, just because the Twitter mob and Big Tech, just can’t let her express her support for child sex trafficking.

    Enough is enough... Let MTG endorse sex trafficking politicians, if she wants to. This PC mob mentality is going too far!!!

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    Big business and political disinformation is protected speech... Vaccines only make things worse and cause autism and shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Big business and political disinformation is protected speech... Vaccines only make things worse and cause autism and shit.
    As soon as am getting the vaccine, am scheduling a trip to Vegas!!! Big money!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Big business and political disinformation is protected speech... Vaccines only make things worse and cause autism and shit.
    @Tuor Not if you live in Portugal apparently.
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    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    @Tuor Not if you live in Portugal apparently.
    Everyone is free to express its opinions over here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Big business and political disinformation is protected speech... Vaccines only make things worse and cause autism and shit.
    Please tell me this is a joke?
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    It's called resistance / rebellion.
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    Also, one day the tables might turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    Please tell me this is a joke?
    Sarcasm...there's a middle road that we're all aware of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yas-Queen Rochana View Post
    De facto monopolies like Facebook, Google, Youtube, etc. probably should be more tightly regulated, including assuring the right of access for people.
    You don’t have a right of access.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuor View Post
    Thanks for proving to everyone you totally dump, i just told you the name of my President, and now you argue that my country is a monarchy? That was in Spain, My country is not Spain.
    And what country is yours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Sarcasm...there's a middle road that we're all aware of.
    That's what I was hoping but we live in an Era where sarcasm and satire is super hard to tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana Violence View Post
    It's called resistance / rebellion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana Violence View Post
    Also, one day the tables might turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yas-Queen Rochana View Post
    De facto monopolies like Facebook, Google, Youtube, etc. probably should be more tightly regulated, including assuring the right of access for people.
    good can I have access to your house so I can sit in your living room and spout off nonsense to your family?

    What about if i want to set up a booth on your front lawn and spout off nonsense all day?
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tehdang View Post
    You really have to justify this with Twitter's ability to do the same. I can't force you to reckon with it, if you'd prefer to not even see it.

    If you need an extreme case to break through some mental blocks of yours, imagine Twitter bans every single Democratic official from their platform two weeks before an election. If you need a less extreme example, remember that Twitter banning AOC makes some millions of followers unable to follow her official addresses, whereas her block only affects one.
    Imagine thinking that twitter would just ban all the Democratic candidates before an election. You're stretching really far into the territory of "Things that would never ever ever happen". I realize you think people don't understand your point of view and are trying to come up with analogies to make it more relatable, but trust me, we know exactly where you're coming from. There's things that are a difference of opinion, and then there are things that are just WRONG. Cutting off people's twitter usage because they're sending death threats and inciting violence is a far cry different from just tossing someone off twitter just because.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    good can I have access to your house so I can sit in your living room and spout off nonsense to your family?

    What about if i want to set up a booth on your front lawn and spout off nonsense all day?
    I find it funny that Republicans and their sympathizers tend to be harshly against illegal things solely because "They're illegal" even if it's dumb that they're illegal things. I mean border crossing? You'd think to them that crime was worse than murder. But nope, banning people on twitter for inciting violence is legal, but now they want to make that illegal.

    You do realize @Yas-Queen Rochana that if the government did start regulating social media to make it a guaranteed right to access those platforms, there would be much more serious governmental punishments for people being assholes? Yeah, NOBODY wants that.
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