While only partially true, it's also because Europeans (due to the super variations of income across countries) are less likely to spend real money on the token to buy gold, which means less supply.
@OP It's mainly the supply and demand but there is also the income the game provides, which went to absurd levels in Legion because mission tables were providing a shit ton of gold.
ppl stop playing SL more and more and more (and i can totally understand why). at least i and friends of mine (the few that still exists in game) see/feel it every day, by i.e. just looking at the amount of PUG grps early in the night.
that said: IF my assumption is right and ppl more and more leaving in SL in EU, the high Token price is obvious. less suply, higher prices.
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this is the biggest BS i ever heard. you dont get how Tokens work...
before you can buy a Token in the AH with gold, to pay your sub with gold, another one had to buy a Token with 20 Euros real life money and put it there.
what a BS you talk... (besides that idiotic „poor“ statement)....
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that one. simple as that.
maybe ppl no longer invest that much into that cash grab shit, by just no longer playing SL and/or buying tokens for 20 Euros, while there are still enough players paying boosting grps and buy BoE items.
the more fun part is: i know many ppl that exactly unsubbed for the reason of „the game drives you towards buying tokens by design, for boost grps and BoEs“. funny
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If they actually meddled with it, you'd expect the opposite. You're just making stuff up here.
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You can't really tell which side it is. The only thing we know for certain is that EU has a greater disparity between supply and demand than US.
Kinda backwards, without Boosters buying up all the tokens the demand would drop, so prices would drop correspondingly. But whales would probably still be whales. Rich casual players would still sell tokens for gold, I doubt people who sell tokens are clued into Boost Culture.
Also that's kinda funny when you think about it. The casual buys tokens, the booster buys tokens with gold. The casual receives the gold and then buys a carry with it
This is all speculation of course
As an Eastern European who lived in the US for a good while, it's not false. It's just a statement of fact that Americans are way happier to reach into their pockets for anything, while Europeans are more apprehensive about spending money. And this is more and more true the more to the east you go.
Here you say that Europeans are more reluctant to spend money (which might be the case and I agree with a general feeling of this statement), but in the previous post it was said that "lots of European players are poor", which is, once again, not backed by any data by the OP and really offensive.
To post some data, back in 2010:
26% of adults in US were in low income group, and 56% in Middle class, wherea's in Spain it was 24% adults in low income and 64% in middle class.
If you go further compare:
26% low income, 56% middle class in US vs. 14%/80% in Denmark, 18%/72% in Germany, 13%/79% in Netherlands and let's throw in 17%/74% in France.
How are Europeans generally poorer, if bigger percentage of population, statistically, is in fact richer in Europe?
Hence, the initial argument is false and really offensive.
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Source of data: Luxembourg’s Cross-National Data Center
The game is probably more popular in the US than in the EU. A lot of players have left the game since shadowlands came out, in part to how little progression there is for casual players. If there's even a slight disparity between US and EU when it comes to casuals vs hardcores it's going to be more noticable in one region than the other.
The thing you are not comparing is what it means to be "middle class" in absolute terms. Even though the tokens are somewhat comparable price, it's a much lower spending item for someone with a middle class US wage. Without going for any hard data, in absolute terms, middle class in the US can afford more "stuff" than middle class in Europe.
This thread should have ended here. It's really just that simple. Almost everything else is either batshit crazy theories from people who are fantasizing too much, or just toxic bullshit.
The inflation and currency exchange has absolutely nothing to do with these prices whatsoever.
No, it's not. Token has always been cheaper in US, for years now.
Maybe. But that's a bit far reaching conclusion to go to with no data to support it. It could be argued that people with low wages who cant afford it wouldn't be playing a game with monthly subscription in the first place as well.
Has nothing to do with bots
Blizzard has no influence on token prices at all. This is nothing more than a wacky conspiracy theory.
Or maybe they're just more skilled at making money in the game and play more so they are able to generate gold more easily and pay like that. It's a known fact that in the US you barely get any holiday days at work and Europe gets like triple times that, on top of shorter work hours in general.
No, it's not. We don't have official data obviously, but the limited data provided by all the wow-related tracking sites suggests that there's multiple times more active players in EU than in US. Also, there haven't been any major shifts in the token price lately, so the theory that some supposed mass exodus from the game is causing it to fluctuate heavily is just your imagination, nothing more.
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Its because all the casuals stopped playing wow again. Casuals = same as people who buy stuff in gaming phone app's to speed up their progress, which btw is fine, just wouldn't buy a token my self ever. That's just my theory, and Im sure its right.
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My personal feeling tells me that EU citizens don't like spending money. Meaning more people want to pay with gold and less offer tokens they bought with real currency.
Also sub/token costs are higher in EU, compared to US if you factor in exchange rates, while gold has the same value. Meaning you should expect more gold for your token.
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You're wrong. The WoW token is an exchange rate between gold and € or $. Obviously the gold price is higher if your currency is worth more.
Blizzard currently have some sort of bugg where i can't buy tokens, so obviously the supply would go down.
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Well, of course it's supply and demand. And what factor regulates demand in a monopoly situation like this? Price.
Offer a good at a higher price and you'll get less demand and vice versa. Mirror that for supply.
In case of WoW tokens you have 2 systems: exchanging real currency for tokens and exchanging tokens for gold. Given supply and demand rules and given that supply is infinite only the price regulates the demand for WoW tokens. This price is higher in EU than in US, meaning less Tokens are bought. That in return means lower supply for tokens in WoW. To balance that out, the gold value in WoW is higher.
Not saying that is the only reason for the discrepancy, but it is one reason why EU token gold prices constantly were higher than US ones.
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