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    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    are you kidding me?! they would've tore the city to shreds. And I don't blame them. No one is standing idle for this racism bullshit anymore. And look at how the conservative right is going off right now.
    No, I am not kidding. The "civil war" bullshit has become tiring, not to mention word war one. Common.
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    Take that haters.
    IF IM STUPID, so is Donald Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega10 View Post
    I hear what you are saying, and mostly agree.

    But take some time and just celebrate. Clear cut victories are few and far between, and a lot of people worked hard to bring about this kind of change. Honor the sacrifices and hard work that helped to bring about this result.

    So just be happy for at least a day or two SOMETHING GOOD HAPPENED.

    And he really was convicted on ALL THREE CHARGES

    A bit off topic, but very much in line with your post: I listened to some of the defense arguments. The defense lawyer made it hard to NOT hate this guy with a passion, and to not hate white supremacists over all. HE MIGHT HAVE DIED FROM CARBON MONOXIDE POISONING INSTEAD. I will identify this line with white supremacists for a long time, and it is a reminder that, as you alluded to in your post, that the war is not over, a lot of fighting remains, and that white supremacists are even more dishonest and evil than I thought.
    It actually makes me feel worse. The fact that this is such a huge monumental deal because usually these people get off makes the situation to me even more hopeless because it is so fucking bogus it is not a norm.

    And given the video and everything, there was no way in hell any defence could have been made that wouldn't make Chauvin seem like the exact piece of shit he is.

    I think this Malcolm X quote on progress kind of sums up how I feel to an extent.



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    At first I was confused, distraught and hopeless. But then I thought about two things:

    1.) cops will likely get revenge for wrongful termination and prosecution (one way or another)

    2.) since this is a short-term victory, maybe they’ll pack the bags they’ve stolen and go back to the houses they’re squatting in.

    With any luck, vigilante justice will prevail, but in this neutered country, I’m not holding my breath (like their martyr did).

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    As happy as I am, it doesn't mean shit without reform or even sentencing.

    Police were just kicking the asses of protesters last night. There's going to be police and 2A types looking to cause trouble. This is just a time out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjoswald View Post
    At first I was confused, distraught and hopeless. But then I thought about two things:

    1.) cops will likely get revenge for wrongful termination and prosecution (one way or another)

    2.) since this is a short-term victory, maybe they’ll pack the bags they’ve stolen and go back to the houses they’re squatting in.

    With any luck, vigilante justice will prevail, but in this neutered country, I’m not holding my breath (like their martyr did).
    What are you talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    As happy as I am, it doesn't mean shit without reform or even sentencing.

    Police were just kicking the asses of protesters last night. There's going to be police and 2A types looking to cause trouble. This is just a time out.
    Yeah... I feel no safer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by masterhorus8 View Post
    What are you talking about?
    Don't feed it and it goes away
    Populists (and "national socialists") look at the supposedly secret deals that run the world "behind the scenes". Child's play. Except that childishness is sinister in adults.
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    Quote Originally Posted by downnola View Post
    Don't feed it and it goes away
    Not going anywhere (voluntarily). I have my right to have an opinion like everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by masterhorus8 View Post
    What are you talking about?
    It's pretty obvious. He's a troll OR he's sad that a cop who murdered someone isn't getting away with it this time. Report for the first either way.

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    that cop who murdered that other lad with the 'i thought it was my tazer' is gonna be sweating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjoswald View Post
    At first I was confused, distraught and hopeless. But then I thought about two things:

    1.) cops will likely get revenge for wrongful termination and prosecution (one way or another)

    2.) since this is a short-term victory, maybe they’ll pack the bags they’ve stolen and go back to the houses they’re squatting in.

    With any luck, vigilante justice will prevail, but in this neutered country, I’m not holding my breath (like their martyr did).
    Seething conservatives is the 2nd best part about all of this.. or 3rd, I don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjoswald View Post
    Not going anywhere (voluntarily). I have my right to have an opinion like everyone else.
    No one is entitled to an opinion they can't substantiate, and licking a boot does not constitute substantiation. /shrug
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    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downnola View Post
    Crowder is already rambling on twitter about cops leaving the force.

    Oh no, cops who can't murder people are leaving. So sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    No one is entitled to an opinion they can't substantiate, and licking a boot does not constitute substantiation. /shrug
    Can’t substantiate? I think I’ve made it abundantly clear how I feel. If you need me to draw it out in crayon for you, go to a Common Core public school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    It certainly does have meaning, and people are right to be happy about it.

    It is also just a start, though. If things can .I've forward from here, all the better. Consider this a launching point, or similar. Don't reduce it to nothing.
    Uh that's basically what I said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjoswald View Post
    Can’t substantiate? I think I’ve made it abundantly clear how I feel. If you need me to draw it out in crayon for you, go to a Common Core public school.
    You should post more opinions of yours about this, i'm enjoying them.
    How do you feel about this maybe leading to more piggies getting the same verdict?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    It's pretty obvious. He's a troll OR he's sad that a cop who murdered someone isn't getting away with it this time. Report for the first either way.
    Ah, okay. I wasn't quite sure what they were talking about at first, but the bit in the parenthesis did clue me in to the trolling after I posted. Well, easy addition to the ignore list... Low post count alt that swoops in to keep their main from being banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjoswald View Post
    Can’t substantiate? I think I’ve made it abundantly clear how I feel.
    You forgot to explain why anyone should care given that your feelings are quite clearly divorced from reality, however.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    It actually makes me feel worse. The fact that this is such a huge monumental deal because usually these people get off makes the situation to me even more hopeless because it is so fucking bogus it is not a norm.

    And given the video and everything, there was no way in hell any defence could have been made that wouldn't make Chauvin seem like the exact piece of shit he is.

    I think this Malcolm X quote on progress kind of sums up how I feel to an extent.



    Yeah I know, and agree. The mountain that is left to be climbed still seems so tall in front of us.

    But look down below us and see the progress that has been made. And this really is a HUGE step up. Which, as you alluded to, is sad and depressing and even infuriating. But progress is progress, and victories are still victories.

    I would also like to point out that this trial has changed the way that the US looks at race relations. No one doubts that systemic racism is a huge problem anymore.

    Black Lives Matter did its thing last summer. Progress was made, but the backlash got Trump SEVENTY FOUR MILLION VOTES - oops he lost anyways, and oh yeah because of the blue? state of Georgia, the white supremacists lost the Senate as well. And now Black Lives Matters continues to move forward, stronger than ever before.

    There is a lot of work still to be done. But I stand by my statement that now is a time to reflect and enjoy and be happy a bit. All the while planning for the future!

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    Now if we can get justice for Atatiana Jefferson next. August 2021.

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