Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Edge-]

"Oh, you're with border patrol? So cool, what do you do most of the time? Like, do you hunt down illegals or so, do you stop them from getting in? Fighting off cartel drug runners??"

"Collecting ladders."

"Say again?"

"we're collecting ladders, most of the time"

Amusingly, this is a longterm problem for CBP, which markets itself as a highly militarized outfit that's always hunting down drug traffickers and human smugglers. When in reality most of the job is administrative work and uneventful patrols.

[Breccia]

So let's talk about Tucker Carlson. Or, this time, let's have Tucker Carlson talk about himself, while we raise an eyebrow in silent condemnation.

Jeff Bezos had one of his minions, a mentally unbalanced middle-aged man called Erik Wemple, pull our dusty college yearbook and call around and see if we'd done anything naughty at the age of 19

Yep, WaPo is looking into Carlson's past and he's not happy about it.

First of all, let's just casually gloss over all the times Carlson called for an investigation (into anything) himself. Examples are eveywhere.

Who here remembers the 2016 debates? In the second one, Trump brought up, you guessed it, somehing Clinton did at 27. Oh, he lied about it of course. But Carlson said the following on the topic:

Nothing.

Yeah, I looked around. Carlson said nothing on the topic -- including saying "you shouldn't do this". For a random person to say nothing isn't special. For Carlson, whose business is Trump and politics, this can't have been something he missed. As a 110% confirmed rabid fanbase member, his silence is assumed consent.

Oh, and let's not forget the time he brought up stuff Biden did in 1975. I know you'll remember that time, because it was 2 days before a clip from his "Bubba the Love Sponge" radio show, yes that was the name of the show, came up in which he, well, defended child rape.

So Carlson making a big deal about people looking into someone's young life is hypocrisy. Because of course it is.

But that's not the key issue, is it? Let's talk about "a mentally unbalanced middle-aged man".

Also, we get to see Tucker Carlson meltdown. That's fun right?

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1...b047b9f8b40e4d

I mean...Miles Morales there just made my point. Thanks for that, by the way. I could stop there.

But a day without a Breccia Shield Wall of Text is like Baskin Robbins having 30 flavors. Yeah, you're probably fine but...there's just something missing.

The virus just isn’t nearly as deadly as we thought it was, all of us, including on this show. Everybody thought it was, but it turned out not to be.

-- Carlson, April 27, about half a million dead Americans ago

Almost everyone — 85% — who got the coronavirus in July was wearing a mask, and they were infected anyway. So clearly this doesn't work the way they tell us it works.

-- Carlson, Oct 13

If the vaccine is effective, there is no reason for people who've received a vaccine to wear masks or avoid physical contact. So maybe it doesn't work, and they're simply not telling you that. Well, you'd hate to think that, especially if you've gotten two shots. But what's the other potential explanation? We can't think of one.

-- Carlson, last week

It has gotten dirtier and dirtier and dirtier and dirtier. I go down there, and that litter is left almost exclusively by immigrants.

-- Carlson, Dec 2019, about the Potomac river

Far more children died last year drowning in their bathtubs than were killed accidentally by guns. I’d like to see a package on ‘Do you have a bathtub at home because I want to know before I let my child go over to your house.’ A little perspective might be helpful.

-- Carlson, Aug 2014. Yeah, this has been going on for a while.

The United States ended slavery around the world, and maybe we should get some credit for that, too

-- Carlson, after 1865 so date irrelevant

If you’re wondering why so many progressives are mourning Bolton’s firing tonight, it’s because Bolton himself fundamentally was a man of the left

-- Carlson, three days after this happened and literally the day before he was fired what a coincidence

Unbeknownst to most people, the Green New Deal came to Texas, the power grid in the state became totally reliant on windmills. Then it got cold and the windmills broke, because that’s what happens in the Green New Deal

-- Carlson, while people were still freezing to death in electrically-isolted Texas

I'm not defending the war in any way, but I just have zero sympathy for [Iraqis] or their culture. A culture where people just don't use toilet paper or forks.

-- Bubba the Love Sponge appearance

If you’re, like, for the government butting out of the bedroom and for gay marriage, and for the right of strip clubs to operate unimpeded by governments -- how exactly can you be against polygamy?

-- also Bubba the Love Sponge appearance

How did we wind up with a country in which feminists do science?

-- seriously what the fuck

[quote]Almost every nation on Earth has fallen under the yoke of tyranny...of the metric system[/url]
-- seconds later, uses the term "KYE-low-grams". No, really, you have to see this shit

This is a hoax, just like the Russian hoax. It’s a conspiracy theory used to divide the country and keep a hold on power.”

-- Carlson, Aug 2019, just after the El Paso shooting

And, finally...well, for this post...in this clip he's having a little hissy fit when told he's mispronouncing kilograms, I mean "Kamala" as in "this was Aug 2020 you've heard her name a thousand times by now". Not that impressive by itself, until he says

On this show, no-one is immue to criticism

And, yep, suddenly upset when people are looking into his past for things he's done.

[postman1782]

https://www.businessinsider.com/mark...ate-run-2021-4

Yo, MAGA Ken and his AR-15 want to run for Senate.

This seems like par for the course for the Republican party, nowadays. Truly, he will understand the problems of the "common man", in his gated private community with his pink polo shirt and slacks, with all the energy of a pudgy, white Steve Erkel thinking he's Tony Montana.

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https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-po...-wall-ladders/

Unsurprisingly, Trump's multi-billion dollar wall seems pretty useless still.

Specifically, there's a $27M dollar section of it that's apparently routinely being defeated by...$5 ladders. Literally, a bunch of 2x4's and some screws for smaller pieces of wood acting as steps.

I guess it's a lot of firewood for CBP if they ever need to resort to burning fires on a cold night.

Not surprising, we told every single Republican on this forum that the wall would easily defeated with several different ways to defeat it, and they didn't believe us. You have rope, these $5 ladders, tunnels, climbing because we have seen people younger than teenagers climb these walls in less than 30 seconds, and this little known invention of an airplane that flies over it, where most of our illegal immigration comes from.

[Kaleredar]

Not surprising, we told every single Republican on this forum that the wall would easily defeated with several different ways to defeat it, and they didn't believe us. You have rope, these $5 ladders, tunnels, climbing because we have seen people younger than teenagers climb these walls in less than 30 seconds, and this little known invention of an airplane that flies over it, where most of our illegal immigration comes from.

"Clearly, the wall only didn't work because Obama Hillary AOC Biden refused to fund it and give the border guards the necessary military hardware to defend the wall from the drug-toting rapists and their tactical assault ladders!" ~ Some Trump schmuck, probably

[Draco-Onis]

"Clearly, the wall only didn't work because Obama Hillary AOC Biden refused to fund it and give the border guards the necessary military hardware to defend the wall from the drug-toting rapists and their tactical assault ladders!" ~ Some Trump schmuck, probably

Some of them did respond by saying we should have our armed forces sent to the border to patrol on the wall and become a death squad killing anything that moves.

[Bluespiderman57]

I mean...Miles Morales there just made my point. Thanks for that, by the way. I could stop there.

Meh, always happy to help. Though that was more an exasperated attempt at dark/ depressing humor than anything else.

[Kaleredar]

Some of them did respond by saying we should have our armed forces sent to the border to patrol on the wall and become a death squad killing anything that moves.

It's one of the GOP's only two actionable goals in office: "Instate weak, do-nothing policy that dogwhistles to their followers and then blame the democrats for it not working."

The other being, of course "obstruct, obfuscate and defang any and all democrat policy attempts and then blame the democrats for the policy not working as a sign that they can't govern."

[fwc577]

Remember Trump calling out the violent leftist protests and states passing laws in order to help solve the problem of all the violent, leftist protests?

Well, apparently, it was all bullshit as like 90%+ of cases in arrests have been dropped in many major cities.

https://truthout.org/articles/cities...vide-evidence/

[Kaleredar]

Remember Trump calling out the violent leftist protests and states passing laws in order to help solve the problem of all the violent, leftist protests?

Well, apparently, it was all bullshit as like 90%+ of cases in arrests have been dropped in many major cities.

https://truthout.org/articles/cities...vide-evidence/

And I wonder how these dismissed cases against the "violent BLM rioters" stack up numbers-wise against the successful prosecutions of the "true patriots" who raided the capitol building on the 6th...

[Edge-]

Remember Trump calling out the violent leftist protests and states passing laws in order to help solve the problem of all the violent, leftist protests?

Well, apparently, it was all bullshit as like 90%+ of cases in arrests have been dropped in many major cities.

https://truthout.org/articles/cities...vide-evidence/

Honestly, that should trigger investigations of every department and every officer involved in those arrests. Shit happens sometimes, maybe the cops made a mistake (still fucked up, but whatever) and drop the charges every once in a while. But 93-100% of arrests leading to charges being dropped? That's evidence of widespread problems within every one of those departments, and is a pretty explicit example of authoritarian police behavior.

[Adam Jensen]

I caught that Val Demmings clip with Jordan finally. Gym is such a pathetic piece of shit. Nadler is admonishing him for interrupting, saying you can’t do that when another member has the floor and what does Gym do? “I agree!” Which is so fucking contradictory considering he’s INTERRUPTING the fucking chair. God I hope Beavis and Butthead get gone sooner rather than later.

When Republican districts sends their people, they're not sending their best. They're sending people that have a lot of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing people who willfully ignore sexual abuse. They're bringing sex traffickers and gun nuts. They're QAnon morons. And some, I assume, are good people.

[Nastard]

Almost every nation on Earth has fallen under the yoke of tyranny...of the metric system
-- seconds later, uses the term "KYE-low-grams". No, really, you have to see this shit

WTF hahah. Was that segment for real? Granted I don't watch Fox news, but that segment seemed almost like a parody of what I'd consider Fox News to be.

[Adam Jensen]

WTF hahah. Was that segment for real? Granted I don't watch Fox news, but that segment seemed almost like a parody of what I'd consider Fox News to be.

OH THE HORROR! Measuring things in powers of 10!

[Kaleredar]

Honestly, that should trigger investigations of every department and every officer involved in those arrests. Shit happens sometimes, maybe the cops made a mistake (still fucked up, but whatever) and drop the charges every once in a while. But 93-100% of arrests leading to charges being dropped? That's evidence of widespread problems within every one of those departments, and is a pretty explicit example of authoritarian police behavior.

It's not an immediately related thing, but I'm hoping that the federal probe into the Minneapolis police department sets a precedent for investigations into other departments, including the ones involved in mass-arresting people related to the BLM protests. Especially the goon squad blackbagging that was going on for a while there.


...And just a casual reminder for anyone around here still harping on the "But is Biden/the democrats that different from Trump/The republicans?!" train, but it's worth noting that this probe is something that would never have happened under a Trump presidency. Trump would probably have tweeted about the "injustice" done to the police officer, rile up his followers into attempting to kidnap some elected official or somesuch, and then ordering or generally hampering or affecting a cease and desist into any federal probe follow-up.

[Edge-]

WTF hahah. Was that segment for real? Granted I don't watch Fox news, but that segment seemed almost like a parody of what I'd consider Fox News to be.

Worth noting this is from 2019, a very "different" time when Tucker Carlson wasn't losing his mind live on national TV.

[pathora44]

OH THE HORROR! Measuring things in powers of 10!

MY GOD!!!!!!! A system of measurement that is measured by the power of 10! What Commie bastard invented that system of measurement. Us real God fearing, red blooded Americans use a God damn patriotic Bald Eagle flying overhead form of measurement that makes no God damn sense except to Patriots. What self respecting Socialism hating Patriot doesn't understand that 12 in go into a foot and 3 feet go into a yard and that 5,280 ft go into a mile. It ain't rocket science people, unless you are God damn Socialism loving Commie!

[Pannonian]

MY GOD!!!!!!! A system of measurement that is measured by the power of 10! What Commie bastard invented that system of measurement. Us real God fearing, red blooded Americans use a God damn patriotic Bald Eagle flying overhead form of measurement that makes no God damn sense except to Patriots. What self respecting Socialism hating Patriot doesn't understand that 12 in go into a foot and 3 feet go into a yard and that 5,280 ft go into a mile. It ain't rocket science people, unless you are God damn Socialism loving Commie!

To be completely frank (and while i prefer the decimal system, as i've grown up with it) i don't think "one size fits all" in this case. For science and calculations, yeah, sure, no contest, but there are other things:

Take currency. I'd actually prefer the (old) english system that is divisble by 3, because it happens much more often that i have to split currency in 3 parts than in 10. This is just a minor issue, but i prefer not to show that much disdain for the imperial system, as it has its advantages, and just thumping on your chest because "metric > all" is not much different from "bruh, learn to uise correct measurements here in america!!! we use imperial!!"

[PrimiOne]

WTF hahah. Was that segment for real? Granted I don't watch Fox news, but that segment seemed almost like a parody of what I'd consider Fox News to be.

Sometimes I have the feeling that some years ago I fell into a black hole that sent me into a alternate universe where reality is all a comedy sketch.



But then I realize ...no ,this is the actually the world we live in.

]Take currency. I'd actually prefer the (old) english system that is divisble by 3, because it happens much more often that i have to split currency in 3 parts than in 10. This is just a minor issue, but i prefer not to show that much disdain for the imperial system, as it has its advantages, and just thumping on your chest because "metric > all" is not much different from "bruh, learn to uise correct measurements here in america!!! we use imperial!!"

Umm....currencies are not part of the metric system......you got meters and kilograms and joules and watts and candels and volts.....currencies are nowhere to be found or defined in the metric system anywhere.

But even if you made the misttake of talking about currencies when you are really talking about expressing a numeration on potencies of 10 ( wich given that we use a base 10 numeration is the logical thing because we homo sapiens have 10 fingers in the hands and that make 10 the intuitive reference) it makes it divisible by 2 and 5 too that are way more common than 3.

[Pannonian]

Sometimes I have the feeling that some years ago I fell into a black hole that sent me into a alternate universe where reality is all a comedy sketch.



But then I realize ...no ,this is the actually the world we live in.



Umm....currencies are not part of the metric system......you got meters and kilograms and joules and watts and candels and volts.....currencies are nowhere to be found or defined in the metric system anywhere.

But even if you made the misttake of talking about currencies when you are really talking about expressing a numeration on potencies of 10 ( wich given that we use a base 10 numeration is the logical thing) it makes it divisible by 2 and 5 too that are way more common than 3.

ehm... every SI unit is metric, but not every metric unit is SI. The british currency was changed to metric a few decades ago. That's what i was talking about. Maybe it's a language problem? In my language metric (metrisch) describes any system based on the potency of 10, not exclusive SI units. Also, the currency i'm talking about stems from weigh measurements (pounds...) and is therefore part of the SI system (or at least its sucessor) so it makes sense to compare it with SI.

And sorry to say, you're wrong. The old english system was 1 pound = 240 pence. 240 is divsible by 2,3,4,5,6,8 and 10 - compared to 1 pound = 100 pence, which only works for 2,4,5 and 10. And in day to day transactions where i try to use my brain instead of a calculator, i think that's more practical. I don't say that makes the metric system (or systems based on 10) bad, but it's not perfect in every case.

That's what i meant.

[PrimiOne]

Maybe it's a language problem? In my language metric (metrisch) describes any system based on the potency of 10, not exclusive SI units. A .

I obviously don't know every language in the planet but what you are describing is called ( in English) a decimalised system not a metric system that is a system of measurement based on the meter ( from the french metre -> metric)