WoW Charity Pet Program $1 Million USD Goal Reached – Daisy Unlocked!

[Twdft]

The amount of misinformation in this thread is staggering. smh

they make money indirectly as players "log in" to the game to utilize the pet. open your eyes kty

You can unlock it in the battle.net app. Doesn't matter if you even have a WoW account on it. To actually use it you have to login to WoW, no shit Sherlock. You still do not have to pay anything since trial characters can summon pets too. Where the fuck is Blizzard making money even indirectly from these pets?

[Nite92]

All wrong. The million was directly donated to Doctors Without Borders. Blizzard never saw a dime of it and they have no tax write off to claim.

Well, where the money went does not matter to the persons claim i answered to. It is about if Blizzard has a benefit, and they do not. That was my main point.

[rhorle]

i dont owe you jack shyt lol but for fun since google is hard for you let me do that part for you.. i trust you know how to read at least enjoy..you're welcome .. and dont bother me anymore thanks https://v1.escapistmagazine.com/news...f-Making-Games

The key word you missed in your previous response was making. He wants to removing the fun from making video games. The context of the response had to do with thrift and the world wide economic depression at the time. This is also why gamers shouldn't pay attention to corporate speak, stock, and other stuff that closely. Because it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things and most of the times it is only used as a tool to twist, hate, or doom and gloom.

Jeetil Patel, Deutsche Bank Securities - Analyst
"What do you think the retailers' willingness these days is to hold inventory on the video game side? Are they building positions today or are they still very reluctant and very careful of how they are buying?"

Bobby Kotick, Activision Blizzard, Inc. - President and CEO
"I don't think it is specific to video games. I think that if you look at how much volatility there is in the economy and, dependent upon your view about macroeconomic picture and I think we have a real culture of thrift. And I think the goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks that we brought in to Activision 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games."

"I think we definitely have been able to instill the culture, the skepticism and pessimism and fear that you should have in an economy like we are in today. And so, while generally people talk about the recession, we are pretty good at keeping people focused on the deep depression."

[Utrrabbit]

So why ask people who are in a pandemic already when they could cover much much more. I don't care if people have this corporate is ok mentality but come on.

Because it is about being a decent fucking human. Which clearly you are not if you think that way.

[Nnyco]

Good job, everyone helped activision write off a mill in tax credit. Time for the celebrations.

Good job being a misserable little shit on a forum while having no idea how tax payoffs work. But i am sure you read it on reddit somewhere, so it must be true!

Imagine comming to a 3rd party forum to complain about blizzard because they started a charity.

[Cosmic Janitor]

I guess gg and thanks to those who donated.

[Nitrax]

Ya I guess so, it just seems in bad taste to ask people for money during the hardest economic times since the great depression after getting rid of a shitload of people lol.

What? Ive never had this much money before, I literally cant spend my money. And I dont even have to work I can sit home and shitpost and still get paid as long as I show up to a skype meeting or something. Sucks for you to be in the restaurant business or whatever. Also. Blizzard is a company, and US companies do charities because thats the norm for being a good company. And now doctors without borders have 1 million more.

Plus Blizzard isnt even close to a bad company. Even if they made the shittiest games ever and took $1000000 for a character transfer they wouldnt be bad.

A bad company does stuff like increase aids medicine price by 1000%, or dilute milk with glue killing infants by malnourishment in the process.

[OwenBurton]

I think it is unreasonable to think a whole set of employees at Activision-Blizzard are evil just because you don't like certain aspects of their game. Ok, so you don't like the core gameplay mechanics of WoW. Is the Sound Design team to blame? Or are they doing a fantastic job? Is the Ambiance Music team to blame? Or are they doing a fantastic job? Is the Art team to blame? Or are they doing a fantastic job? Is the programming team responsible for making the combat feel smooth the team to blame? Or are they doing a fantastic job? At the end of the day it is a very specific part of the Blizzard teams that the community and the designers disagree on what's next. This is where we need to keep an open dialogue and not call each other stupid for having the opposite opinion. My opinion remains on the fantasy of wanting a guild once I hit max level. I can do my LFR and I can do some PvP and it does not seem to be any point I want to join a serious raiding guild in this process. As I am a veteran of the game, I am motivated to just AFK in the current state and get some sort of catch up mechanic in the next patch of the game. See you in another life brotha!

It is very nice that they donated, of course. It's actually very admirable, in a sense. But I also kind of understand the frustration of others. Blizzard has not always made the best choices. Or at least the most popular ones for players, including recently, and it is not always as easy to defend or understand their decisions as before.

[Dazu]

The key word you missed in your previous response was making. He wants to removing the fun from making video games. The context of the response had to do with thrift and the world wide economic depression at the time. This is also why gamers shouldn't pay attention to corporate speak, stock, and other stuff that closely. Because it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things and most of the times it is only used as a tool to twist, hate, or doom and gloom.

Its pointless using logic and facts.
They just want something to be outraged about. Snowflake syndrome at its best.

Edited : I was wrong, forgot about the mergers timelines.

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It is very nice that they donated, of course. It's actually very admirable, in a sense. But I also kind of understand the frustration of others. Blizzard has not always made the best choices. Or at least the most popular ones for players, including recently, and it is not always as easy to defend or understand their decisions as before.

Game decisions are personal taste.
I was frustrated by the changes in WoD, Legion and BFA. I didnt complain when Blizzard did something good for people like Make A Wish or raise money for a natural disaster relief. Its completely irrelevant.

[deenman]

WOW ! we reached .5% of what kotik gets as an annual bonus for his work on graudually ruining the game/company we used to love... naisu

the bonus was in accordance with the huge profits made that year,get over it,if you were in the same situation at your job and didnt get the bonus you would be crying and moaning

[MrMatticus]

A bad company does stuff like increase aids medicine price by 1000%, or dilute milk with glue killing infants by malnourishment in the process.

The first part is fair business and how it works, the second part you made up.

[Matsumotto]

the bonus was in accordance with the huge profits made that year,get over it,if you were in the same situation at your job and didnt get the bonus you would be crying and moaning

My question is...do they pay taxes for bonuses? Like when you get your regular paycheck, by googling it, it seems people in the US lose 15.3% on those. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they give themselves bonuses to just commit tax evasions...but again, i'm clueless when it comes to this sort of stuff.

[Kathranis]

The first part is fair business and how it works, the second part you made up.

Jacking up prices of life-saving medication is the kind of shit pharmaceutical companies get away with because they're poorly regulated.

And wasn't it not that long ago that some Chinese companies got caught cutting baby formula with melamine to stretch the supply, killing dozens of babies? Pretty sure they actually executed CEOs for that, which is something you'd never see happen in the US.

[Dazu]

My question is...do they pay taxes for bonuses? Like when you get your regular paycheck, by googling it, it seems people in the US lose 15.3% on those. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they give themselves bonuses to just commit tax evasions...but again, i'm clueless when it comes to this sort of stuff.

Bonuses high ups like CEOs etc get are usually in stock and other assets not cash. Its one of the big misleading things with the very rich people. Most of their wealth and value is tied up in things like shares in the company. Theres also sometimes caveats or restrictions on how they can use things sometimes, as in he might not even be able to sell his shares.
As others have alluded to, when the contract was signed, the bonus that was paid this year was worth roughly 40mil. Share values rise means his bonus rises, on the other hand, had the stock crashed or been at a low point, his bonus could have been far smaller. Those options also arent always just for rich people, there is some companies which gift or include a small number of shares into salaries even for low level staff (a Hardware store where im from does it for example, annual gifts of something like 100 shares).


Not sure on the USA but I dont think theyd likely pay income taxes on the bonuses, however when they sell the shares for example they probably would need to declare it then for tax purposes (capital gains taxes). And yes it is to some extent a tax work around as they arent being paid as such, but those assets still generate wealth in dividends etc plus can be sold later on for cash if needed which is taxed, plus paying someone that kind of money in cash ends up with you paying the maximum tax rate (in my country thats 37c in the dollar, most countries are between 30 and 60c in the dollar) on all of it plus the company would have to pay payroll tax on it too etc.
Also USA tax system seems incredibly complicated anyway as they have state income taxes and different rates all over the place. Some states like Florida dont have income taxes for example.

Further, people think their salaries are far too high (and I do too for some), but they do actually have a really tough and hard job, with alot of responsibility dropped on their shoulders. CEOs usually also work ridiculous hours and lose out on alot of freedom. They also get alot of risk and usually have no job security in so much as as soon as the company has concerns on performance they could be sacked on the spot.

[Freedom]

Further, people think their salaries are far too high (and I do too for some), but they do actually have a really tough and hard job, with alot of responsibility dropped on their shoulders. CEOs usually also work ridiculous hours and lose out on alot of freedom. They also get alot of risk and usually have no job security in so much as as soon as the company has concerns on performance they could be sacked on the spot.

B-but the socialists told me that CEOs are the devil and the knowledgeable posters of MMO C told me they could easily be a CEO! How do we rectify these statements with what you said???

Oh, right - by calling uninformed, acidic opinions like those of the socialists and MMO C posters I "quoted" for what they are: hot garbage unsupported by history, evidence or fact.

[Dazu]

The first part is fair business and how it works, the second part you made up.

Its only fair business because big pharma has so many politicians in their pockets that they arent regulated like they should be (and are in other parts of the world). Also doesnt mean its not wrong, as it essentially kills people who rely on the medication. Its fair enough if its new and still recouping the development phase but not on long existing mass produced medicines.

Yes in China they added melamine to baby formula in 2008 to pass testing, which killed 6 and hospitalized 50000+. Also found melamine in pet foods and other products as people were feeding it to livestock. Actually this kind of stuff is really common.

[Philenia]

Because it is about being a decent fucking human. Which clearly you are not if you think that way.

Sir you are my hero today!!

[MrFawlty]

All these Blizztard fanboys trying to make Blizzard sound like such a nice company for making a donation. This is the same comapany that paid zero tax in 2018 - in fact getting a refund of $248 million.

[Lochton]

All these Blizztard fanboys trying to make Blizzard sound like such a nice company for making a donation. This is the same comapany that paid zero tax in 2018 - in fact getting a refund of $248 million.

I could use harsher words than you have used but I cannot be bothered to climb into the mud with you.

For this charity event, Blizzard did not make the donation for us like previous charities, we donated ourselves directly to DWB/MSF. You are at the current raging at a company that in cooperation with this charity only offered incentives and some PR spots, nothing more.

This whole event was about helping DWB/MSF, and nothing more.

Alas, some people like you mix up things and end up believing we're okay with what has happened in the past because we helped a charity that had made a team up with the said company.

Things do NOT need to be black and white. People can disagree with Blizzard's actions and still support a charity on the side even if they have teamed up with Blizzard.


And before you spout dribble. Blizzard is not getting a tax write-off, nor a cut of the donations, or even handling the money in general.

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All these Blizztard fanboys trying to make Blizzard sound like such a nice company for making a donation. This is the same comapany that paid zero tax in 2018 - in fact getting a refund of $248 million.

And just to get on your last statement... 1 company out of 91 who didn't pay taxes, out of 500 who didn't pay full taxes either.. I have a feeling you are indirectly supporting one or more of these on the list of just 60 of them - but this is not a financial/political forum.

[MrFawlty]

I could use harsher words than you have used but I cannot be bothered to climb into the mud with you.

For this charity event, Blizzard did not make the donation for us like previous charities, we donated ourselves directly to DWB/MSF. You are at the current raging at a company that in cooperation with this charity only offered incentives and some PR spots, nothing more.

This whole event was about helping DWB/MSF, and nothing more.

Alas, some people like you mix up things and end up believing we're okay with what has happened in the past because we helped a charity that had made a team up with the said company.

Things do NOT need to be black and white. People can disagree with Blizzard's actions and still support a charity on the side even if they have teamed up with Blizzard.


And before you spout dribble. Blizzard is not getting a tax write-off, nor a cut of the donations, or even handling the money in general.

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And just to get on your last statement... 1 company out of 91 who didn't pay taxes, out of 500 who didn't pay full taxes either.. I have a feeling you are indirectly supporting one or more of these on the list of just 60 of them - but this is not a financial/political forum.

So they are as bad as other companies, so what? At best its a PR stunt that you have fallen for it. You need to wake up and stop treating a company that arranged a charity event that raised $1 million while claiming back $248 million from the tax payer as the second coming.