Last edited by Orby; 2021-04-29 at 07:50 AM.
If it's like a one time purchase without a sub, they wouldn't make more money without question.
They however already shat the bed with having a box price because they released Classic without any box price (it still turned out to be massive success for Blizzards bottomline btw.) and even Blizzard will have a hard time justifying why TBC now suddenly needs one when a larger project two years ago didn't need one.
I would argue that the Amani War Bear still had prestige in TBC despite being a ground mount.
Doesn't add any value to the game for me, but does not take anything away. I just wanted to play TBC ever since they said they will do classic vanilla and while I can understand why others are mad - but if it is a motivation for blizzard to make classic expansions - go for it! #ClassicLegion
its been a while since vanila/bc but didnt they change it during vanila that riding was costly and mount itself cheap? so they get something that costs literaly few golds and still have to spend lots on riding...
warlocks were taught epic mount from trainer at lvl 62 for really cheap, didnt that diminish other classes accomplishment?
and last point, its ground mount...in tbc... who will actualy use that? everyone will use gryphon/wyvern...
Because store mounts is not good gameplay. It takes what could have been great content, and turns it into a paycheck for Activision.
There should be no way to buy ingame cosmetics as long as there is a sub fee. Or, they can opt to remove the sub fee, and do the shop.
Collecting mounts, gear and other stuff to stand out as a player is winning the game. Thus, this is pay to win.
And I hate to do it, I really do. But I will not associate with people who pay for this mount. But since Blizzard isn't willing to keep it in their pants, the players must do their part to discourage buying mounts and real life money boosts, and yes, that includes gold buyers btw. If I knew someone in my guild bought gold, id see them kicked, or the guild is unwilling to do so, I will find a new guild and try again in hopes of finding a guild that shares my goals for the game.
sure, but the whole existence of the service is for one and only reason, as it is with every businnes - TO MAKE MONEY
they have chosen path that will lead to more players but less money from the game itself, and now that they try to get some money of it via something that is COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY and will not affect other players at all, its bad?
i mean making money is the only reason classic TBC will actualy happen, if there was no way of making money from it they wouldnt do it, why should they? you expect to be paid for your work at your job, why shouldnt they ffs?
and yes, people can disagree or question it, they are free to do it, but ffs dont treat it like the end of the world, its not even inconveninece, it will have no impact on people who dont want it at all...
"WoW is a service catered to the customer not to themselves." - basicaly, yes, like ordering a food at restaurant, will you get into psychotic state at restaurant if someone at other table orders something you dont like? it have no impact on you at all, the other guy is happy, so what is the problem with someone else having something you dont want?!
Here's what I would have been okay with, if the collectors edition featured a mount from the TCG items like one that was around when TBC was released, like have a bundle featuring, the Spectral Tiger, The Picnic Basket, and I am actually okay with the Path of Illidan item, because it existed in TBC (at least It think it was TBC when it came out?)
I am not okay with the shop because it didn't exist when the game was out. It's got nothing to do with the shop itself, the shop exists in retail and thats fine, whatever but if it wasnt in TBC it shouldn't be in TBC classic.
Personally I have no stake in this because I m not buying TBC classic, I lived and completed that expansion when it was out (minus half the bosses in Sunwell). TBC was the best times I ever had playing WoW and I will never get those times back. I did all there was to do (almost), I prefer to remember it that way and am happy to have had done at all.
Last edited by Orby; 2021-04-29 at 08:15 AM.
The large amount of collectors edition mounts you'll see running around once this is released will tell you something: people don't care about this topic and the complaining minority is just that; the complaining minority.
nope, stop you right there
store mounts wouldnt be great content if they wasnt on store, they would simply not exist, thats it, they are created with the very intention to sell them, so without possibility to sell them they wouldnt bother
you could be right, if we got only horses and wolfs ingame and everything else is on store, but ffs there are hundreds different mounts ingame (quite a few of them prettier than store mounts imo), so they wouldnt bother to make MORE without anything in return...
and even if they did, they would at best put them on gold vendor, the content to put the mounts behind wouldnt just appear magicaly...
and we actualy know this, bcs there are always models for mounts datamined that are never used, hell some model from TBC was not used till legion...
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are you against classic wowhead?
bcs during vanilla, or at least for most of it, wowhead didnt exist...
i would understand the issue if it had any impact on other players, but fact is it does not...
so if you have problem with other people getting something that doesnt impact you but makes them happy just bcs you dont want it, no offense but you are c**t
Classic WoWhead isn't apart of the game is it... smh
Also people can buy whatever they want, I am not blaming them. As I said, I am not buying TBC Classic, I lived it and completed it got some of the best memories to take away with me, reliving it in whatever form isn't going to change that, but I understand peoples complaints against this. And tend to lean more their way.
Last edited by Orby; 2021-04-29 at 08:33 AM.
I don't care at all. Get over it 13$ a month is nothing and if they add a store mount so what.
As long as you don't benefit in player power ingame its ok with me.
WoW is still a yery very cheap hobby compared to others.
And if you don't like the bonus pay for the CEO, don't buy the game or get smart and become a CEO by yourself.
Considering they are giving access to 2 games with their own development costs without an increase in sub cost... I expect them to earn money for their work.
People using slippery slope fallacies for the RM shop has been a thing since forever, it has yet to become true.
So it's basically the same as always. Being outraged is somehow attractive and for whatever reason people think games are too expensive even though it's one of the best cost effective forms of entertainment that exists. It's some form of entitlement and there's lots of "reasons" they provide that is mostly a misguided justification for themselves.
just my 2cents.
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currency overlaps is what it comes down to. if you allow players to buy vanity items in an MMORPG using real life currencies, then the game stops being an MMORPG.
the very essence of an MMORPG is that it's a completely separate ecosystem/economy. that is what draws people in. it doesn't matter what your real life looks like: in an MMORPG everyone starts on the same foot and everyone has the same possibilities to do well - but not anymore. that is why people are on the fence about store mounts.
You do realize that the subs revenue from people who play classic only are enough to support development of both classic and retail and still make a super nice profit right? With 500k players (and classic probably has a lot more than that) it brings in 6.5m per month. Or are you implying that keeping the servers up and having a team to tune the content and fix a few bugs cost anywhere near that?
I'd be surprised if the classic team as a whole costs more than 200-300k per month so yeah ... 5-6 million profits sounds a bit more than "make some money"
Last edited by kranur; 2021-04-29 at 09:11 AM.
Are we talking about BC here? I can't remember getting any mount or mount skill being anything but trivial in BC, sorry.
This part is subjective but I don't think anyone should care much about accomplishments in the re-release of a 15 years old game, it's just stupid.
Let’s be real. Everyone is able to buy their store mount if that is something they absolutely crave.
If you already ditch 15£ a month in wow sub, you most likely use atleast 25£ in a year to something absolutely needless crap like beer, chocolate or starbucks.
Man these western people problems these days..
I mean you are just misleading on purpose. Nobody is complaining about the fact that there is a CE. If there was just a CE, with some soundtracks/art and maybe a pet, nobody would complain. Becuase that is what the CE was.
After the boost (which is a whole another topic), now this. Do you really think, that if the boost and the CE make them tons of money, that they will stop?
People are buying it because it is an easy way to "cool shit", but TBC should not be a game where you can get cool shit with a credit card, at least within ToS (rmt).