When did players stop caring?

**Venziir** · 2021-04-30, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by justandulas

it was, and the people who dismiss it clearly weren't there for it. communities were 1000x better, and tbh, still are if you play those retro games.

even in classic, the community was better. retail's community is like twitter, the game. Absolutely a cesspool

What a load of nostalgic bull...

**clevin** · 2021-04-30, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by Kilpi

Yea, getting heals or buffs from randoms is quite nice, but if someone whispered me and sounded passive-agressive about me not throwing a few heals (especially since I don't even see your healthbar), I would just straight up ignore you. If someone is so bothered by not getting automatically helped by passer-bys that they decide to whine to me about it, I won't be using my energy to reply and do something about it..

One good reason also to not constantly help passer-bys is just "I didn't feel like it". For whatever reason that might be.

Pally wasn't a passerby, he was in the fight. Jesus people, read before you comment.

**FarmerEd** · 2021-04-30, 05:11 PM

I'd have interpreted your whisper as an attack, OP.

Odds are that said paladin was multi-tasking watching a tv show, or simply really not on your skill level and not used to keeping an eye out for taunting/off-healing/CCing and it wasn't any personal attack, laziness or "not giving a damn" when he didn't assist you.

**Exeris** · 2021-04-30, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by clevin

Pally wasn't a passerby, he was in the fight. Jesus people, read before you comment.

They were also hitting the same target so the paladin knew he needed heals/help.

**Low Hanging Fruit** · 2021-04-30, 05:16 PM

I mean we live in a world where everything is repackaged, rebranded, and resold to us over and over again as the next big thing because it's 2% faster or has 10 less calories. Not sure what this has to do with the topic but the thread kind of felt like a stand on a box and say something type of place.

**justandulas** · 2021-04-30, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by Venziir

What a load of nostalgic bull...

By all means, go play one of those retro titles like wow classic, everquest, MUDs, etc...

most are free so you can dip your toes in and see for yourself that, yes, the older communities were and still are vastly superior human beings than the toxic trollfest that is modern mmorpgs like retail wow.

**Kiwijello** · 2021-04-30, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by cparle87

Feeling a bit down, so sorry for this blogpost.

I wernt down to the Maw early today, was in the mood to do the hunt. I called out in general that I was going there, got no response. Saw no one there. Cleared the first round, called out in general. Cleared second round. Third round. Finally the boss is up. And finally two other people show up. An unholy death knight and a retribution paladin. We go in and my dps is the highest so I get aggro. I was immediately wishing I'd gone restoration affinity or even guardian spec, that thing hit pretty hard. Right near the end one of the adds edges behind me, dazes me, and I get killed by a tower blast.

So I run back to my body, and see the paladin running by. I whisper him thusly "Some heals or a taunt when I was low would've been appreciated." Nothing offensive, right? And he unloads at me quite a bit of vitriol.

"I wasn't aware I was signing up for LFR when I came down to the Maw"
"If you can't handle your own business you have no business playing, go die"
And some third line I can't remember.

So I reply "What's the big deal? I was tanking that thing for you the least you could do is throw me some offheals, I know ret has some good ones." But he'd already had me on ignore. I mean, really. If he'd gotten aggro I would've thrown my instant regrowths on him if he needed them, it's only common decency. To not only not get that, but to get attacked in such a way. I kinda miss the 90s. Players seemed nicer to each other in online games, since the idea of playing with another person possibly on the other side of the world was a novel idea then. You seemed to want to walk up to that guy, ask what he was doing, and make friends. Now it's "that guy died helping me? He deserved it."

According to the responses, you have to bow at the feet of your fellow players, avoiding not wording things that might offend, and even apologize for dying as it affected another's gameplay. WTF is wrong with these people?????? You are fine OP, it's these freaking people with their head's up their bums.

**Lurker1** · 2021-04-30, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by cparle87

Feeling a bit down, so sorry for this blogpost.

I wernt down to the Maw early today, was in the mood to do the hunt. I called out in general that I was going there, got no response. Saw no one there. Cleared the first round, called out in general. Cleared second round. Third round. Finally the boss is up. And finally two other people show up. An unholy death knight and a retribution paladin. We go in and my dps is the highest so I get aggro. I was immediately wishing I'd gone restoration affinity or even guardian spec, that thing hit pretty hard. Right near the end one of the adds edges behind me, dazes me, and I get killed by a tower blast.

So I run back to my body, and see the paladin running by. I whisper him thusly "Some heals or a taunt when I was low would've been appreciated." Nothing offensive, right? And he unloads at me quite a bit of vitriol.

"I wasn't aware I was signing up for LFR when I came down to the Maw"
"If you can't handle your own business you have no business playing, go die"
And some third line I can't remember.

So I reply "What's the big deal? I was tanking that thing for you the least you could do is throw me some offheals, I know ret has some good ones." But he'd already had me on ignore. I mean, really. If he'd gotten aggro I would've thrown my instant regrowths on him if he needed them, it's only common decency. To not only not get that, but to get attacked in such a way. I kinda miss the 90s. Players seemed nicer to each other in online games, since the idea of playing with another person possibly on the other side of the world was a novel idea then. You seemed to want to walk up to that guy, ask what he was doing, and make friends. Now it's "that guy died helping me? He deserved it."

I stopped careing when lfr dropped i can now beat the expansion whenever i feel like and not deal with guilds or even friends its a win win in my book.

**scubi666stacy** · 2021-04-30, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Exeris

They were also hitting the same target so the paladin knew he needed heals/help.

Only if you have activated the target's target option in your UI. I have it because of reasons, but I could imagine some people do not.
Anyway, this is a reason why I only do such things in a group. You cannot expect people who just engage the boss without a group to see how well you are doing.

**Thelxi** · 2021-04-30, 05:30 PM

I'd say when Blizzard decided to start selling gold themselves.

**Venziir** · 2021-04-30, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by justandulas

By all means, go play one of those retro titles like wow classic, everquest, MUDs, etc...

most are free so you can dip your toes in and see for yourself that, yes, the older communities were and still are vastly superior human beings than the toxic trollfest that is modern mmorpgs like retail wow.