The Alliance gets the Horde's most popular race. The Horde should get the Alliance's most popular race in return. Alteraci Humans for the Horde!
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He would have kept night elf slaves to cut all of Teldrassil for an unlimited amount of wood resource. Its like how Grom responded when his men first encountered a Tree of Life ''its just a tree.. cut it down!''.
LOL I'm the farthest thing from hating women, I still am not gonna give her anything and I don't give Garrosh anything. But if there is one thing I can say about Garrosh is that he cared for his people, you can't even say that about Sylvanas...she is and has always been about numero uno.
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Onto the question....I guess it depends
If Garrosh was actually there to capture...I think he would try and capture it, burn it down as a last resort if he couldn't take it. But if he was there just to kill Night Elves then yes, he'd burn it.
I mean, seeing his vision of future? He'd destroy everything.
I don't think he would have. Not because he would have had any moral problems with it.
Just because it is a whole bunch of wood he could use to kill more non-orcs with.
Imagine how many arrows you can build with that tree. Now its just used matchsticks.
Nope. People argue he nuked Theramore. I point out it's a valid military target. People argue it has civilians. I point out they weren't there.
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I just went and reread the book. They conquer Northwatch. Baine and the other warriors want to push on Theramore, but Garrosh says no they'll wait. Theramore gets time to reinforce which ultimately plays into Garrosh's hands. THEN Baine sends his messenger to return the weapon he got from Anduin in shame for his part in the destruction of Northwatch. No mention anywhere of when the evacuation took place and no mention of some imaginary betrayal from Baine warning Theramore they'd be next. It was to return the weapon.
And for the fifth time capturing and killing civilians is not the same kind of war crime as nuking them, which is what the guys I've been quoting have been incorrectly trying to argue Garrosh did.
The most difficult thing to do is accept that there is nothing wrong with things you don't like and accept that people can like things you don't.
I dont really see Garrosh having a huge pile of resources like that burned, just to kill civilians... who are also resources(slaves).
People like to point out the bombing of Theramore, like Jaina and Theramore were innocent in their attacks on the Horde. Theramore was a legit military target and Garrosh did nothing wrong in destroying it.
Maybe, but atleast not as offhandedly as Sylvanas. If he did, it would have been because he felt that he wouldn't be able to conquer it or that it would cost too many troops. As long as he believed he could just take the tree, he would.
Maybe if the Wisps gave him significant trouble, he would burn it too.
If he had reason to do it, he'd have definitely done it,no question.
But the thing is that i don't think he'd ever have such a reason. He'd exploit the situation, or harvest it for wood or something of the like, death just for death's sake does not fit with Garrosh despite his evil.
This is a signature of an ailing giant, boundless in pride, wit and strength.
Yet also as humble as health and humor permit.
Furthermore, I consider that Carthage Slam must be destroyed.
guess you must have fell asleep while reading.
cause ya missed it buddy... it was literally to warn her theramore was next, with the weapon being proof. he did not send a messenger just to deliver the weapon, you have to be kidding.
he warned jaina because she had helped him before by giving him funds to purchase mercs to help him reclaim thunderbluff from the grimtotems.
also no its not the same war crime.
its worse.
but again, his original plan WAS to nuke them.
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Cataclysm book say otherwise. When returning from the northrend campaign, his boat got drag into ocean storm caused by the incoming cataclysm. He comes across an alliance ship that went through the same thing and got dragged into horde waters. Even knowing they had no control of the situation he slaughtered them because he was feeling scared and wanted something to vent his frustration on.
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Ogrimmar is also a legit military target. Before cataclysm, all lore of theramore island had theramore city on it. It got downgraded in cataclysm to give garrosh a cool moment without making horde seem like complete monsters.
Originally Posted by Ruargh
This is a signature of an ailing giant, boundless in pride, wit and strength.
Yet also as humble as health and humor permit.
Furthermore, I consider that Carthage Slam must be destroyed.
And I’d argue that he’d have no problem nuking civilians, he only delayed the nuke because he wanted the alliance naval command present before he dropped the nuke. The fact that he made sure the civilians didn’t escape and suffered an even worst death leaves no room for dispute. Not sure how you can argue that he wouldn’t nuke civilians.
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It wasn’t a civilian vessel, you posted garrosh isn’t about killing just for killing sake. That example show it was. He knew the alliance ship had no intention of entering horde waters, he experienced the same frightening chain of events and lost of control that they did, he was scared (not of the alliance) so he decide to kill just to make himself feel better.
Originally Posted by Ruargh
Except it is not at all, his reasons are clear enough:
- It's a military vessel, weakening the alliance with plausible deniability fits his opportunistic character and hate of the alliance
- He has been shown to be quite the hypocrite before, so rather than showing understanding he just deems them to be a trespasser acting on intent, thus "justifying" his behaviour to him
- He has been shown times and again to be very emotional, as such even just his emotions already provide a reason to kill beyond killing for killing's sake.
In short: nothing of this example illustrates that Garrosh kills for killing's sake. He has reasons, unlike Sylvanas who kills because more souls to the maw.
I mean yeah they're "bad" reasons, but they are certainly reasons and entirely realistic and in line with his established character.
This is a signature of an ailing giant, boundless in pride, wit and strength.
Yet also as humble as health and humor permit.
Furthermore, I consider that Carthage Slam must be destroyed.
is there any doubt? At all?
He either would have done it laughing, or he would have pulled a Saurfang and after doing it he would be all like "oh nooo I did a bad, me honor aches"
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Middle school got real bad in these past few years huh
Infracted.
Looks like I got infracted because I found the "Janitor" part funny. I guess middle school really did get bad these past few years huh
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Garrosh is nicer than Orgrim Doomhammer but I'm sure that he would burn the tree if it fits his plans. If it was a potential asset for the horde he would keep it. But if it's a potential threat, he would burn it.
And it's more likely a threat with godilke Malfurion.