At what time will classic-first 70 happen?

[Aphrel]

The guys that got 60 early did it using an exploit. There was a problem with dungeons allowing raid groups in and the exp not being penalized. I can't remember the exact details of this but this contributed greatly to how fast people leveled up.

Nah the nr1 guy just solo aoe farmed and used shard hopping to always have a big supply of mobs to aoe. Most of the first ppl were mages.

But most guilds did indeed exploit ing dungeons not getting any penalty exp from being 10 or even more ppl. They still got half exp or less compared to a 5man group but that was a tradeoff easily worth it as they could pull twice or more as big and with twice or more the aoe dmg hitting all mobs anyway.

So basicly quad returns for half exp = double xp/hour.

[Skandulous]

We have 24 hours here in Germany since we start at 0:00 not sure who and where jokerd is and if the guy I quoted meant something else than 24h.

forgot about the other time zones

[Afrospinach]

Imagine thinking this matters... Especially the 2nd time around...

To what degree did it ever "matter"?

If people think it is important then it matters every bit as much as the first time around. A lot of what is going on in classic are prestige feats, like the fastest, the cleanest, odd class combinations, whatever. This includes "quickest to world first". If you do not understand that then you are not really part of the conversation. It is a phenomenally basic concept that if you do no get you are just shit stirring. Nobody gives a shit that you do not give a shit.

Regardless I am thinking 8 hours or so like others are saying, 60-70 was not a hard slog.

[Wuusah]

Half of my guild will be 70 in the first day and we are a casual raiding guild. It's really just grinding a bunch of dungeons for 12ish hours straight and that's it.

Ah yes, just casually playing for 12 hours a day

[Soikona]

Ah yes, just casually playing for 12 hours a day

For the release of a new expansion, I would book a day or two off work and do that. Doing that like once every 18 months won’t kill ya.

[Ragedaug]

Reaching max level is objective, no matter how they got there, as long as it was done within what's possible by the rules of the game.

Getting realm first 70 is objective. How people feel about the methods used to reach that goal and whether someone earned it is subjective.

[owbu]

Ah yes, just casually playing for 12 hours a day

It's once per every other year.
I'm also not a hardcore soccer fan, but every 2 years I watch soccer every day for 2 weeks.


Give it a couple of weeks and it will be 3 hours per week again.

[Segus1992]

You haven't prepared much for TBC releases, have you? I have over 50 quests worth of turn in to do on launch, and i'm not even close to being amongst the crazy prepared ones. Many have calculated that they are going to be halfway into lvl61 30min after launch from turning in quests all over the world, with summoning team at every corner of the world.

I think a speedrunner will get this done under 4 hours. After seeing how insanely fast some people managed to kill Ragnaros 2 years ago, If Magtheridon/Gruul/Kara isnt cleared within 12 hours, i'll be dissappointed.

No, I'm not a tryhard. I see no reason at all in rushing to 70, nor do I have the time to do it anyway even if I did.

And fair enough, I wasn't even aware there were repeatable turnins that awarded exp.

[Ragedaug]

For the release of a new expansion, I would book a day or two off work and do that. Doing that like once every 18 months won’t kill ya.

You being a casual player normally doesn't mean that you playing 12 hours straight is "casually doing it". I'm not saying in any way that what you are doing is wrong. I'll be taking a day off myself. I'm just saying it's a bit disingenuous to throw in that you are a casual guild as if that has some bearing. I play in a casual guild and I expect no one in the guild to be level 70 in the first day. That said, if anyone in my casual guild decided to play hardcore for 12 hours straight, I'm sure that would give them a lot better shot of doing it.

[Queen of Hamsters]

Getting realm first 70 is objective. How people feel about the methods used to reach that goal and whether someone earned it is subjective.

... Isn't that basically what I just said?

People having an opinion on whether the methods constitutes "real leveling" or not doesn't change shit. Everyone's got different ideas on "how the game should be played", none matter aside from what the game allows. Not mine, not anyone else's.

If people legit cheat, their progress can get rolled back. But other than that, fair game's fair.

[Daedius]

within 4-5 hours from launch.

[Bramickias]

No, I'm not a tryhard. I see no reason at all in rushing to 70, nor do I have the time to do it anyway even if I did.

And fair enough, I wasn't even aware there were repeatable turnins that awarded exp.

The repeatables quests just give exp the first time. But with so many players switching main, it's a LOT of quests that you can gather the turn-ins in advance like the AD tokens, runecloths, twilight texts, etc. Add to that the quest giving items like Hakkar's heart or Ossirian's head, some people, in the last months, have gathered a TON of quests ready to be accepted and completed in the same second. Plenty of players have over 500k xp (thats around 20% into lvl61) in quests ready to be handed the second they are able to and those who have mapped their route precisely will need around 25min for that

Devising a plan and putting it into action is fun for some people.

[Ragedaug]

... Isn't that basically what I just said?

People having an opinion on whether the methods constitutes "real leveling" or not doesn't change shit. Everyone's got different ideas on "how the game should be played", none matter aside from what the game allows. Not mine, not anyone else's.

If people legit cheat, their progress can get rolled back. But other than that, fair game's fair.

You seemed to be stating that the feelings of another poster were wrong by claiming what they had an opinion on was an objective matter. I disputed that by saying they are not disputing the objective. They were merely stating their opinion, which is subjective.

[The Oblivion]

does anyone by chance know, will the servers have to go down to launch the actual opening? Or can we be logged in and ready to go at launch time?

[sunxsera]

~3-4 hours from launch.

[Cuppy]

1-2 hours~

[Queen of Hamsters]

You seemed to be stating that the feelings of another poster were wrong by claiming what they had an opinion on was an objective matter. I disputed that by saying they are not disputing the objective. They were merely stating their opinion, which is subjective.

I was disputing the idea that leveling a certain way could be more "real" than another, when the end result is very much objective. Level 70 on your character, access to level 70 shit.

- - - Updated - - -

~3-4 hours from launch.

Eeesh... But then again, I wouldn't be surprised. The levels to which some go to break records is insane.

[Ragedaug]

I was disputing the idea that leveling a certain way could be more "real" than another, when the end result is very much objective. Level 70 on your character, access to level 70 shit.

Meh. You are still arguing opinions by arguing that your opinion is objective.

[Queen of Hamsters]

Meh. You are still arguing opinions by arguing that your opinion is objective.

No, I'm arguing that reaching level 70 results in something objective, there's no interpretation. Or are you trying to say that you can be max level in several different ways? 70.5? 69.9?

That's all I'm gonna say on this inane exhange.

[ZazuuPriest]

Rofl 8 hours. You might be mixing it with modern wow.
None will do it under maybe 20 hours and that is with lots of help form others so I don´t even consider it real.

level 60 mages can solo farm dungeons due to pathing "exploits" its not going to take them 20 hours