The Ongoing 2020 Election: Maricopa County Recount

[Krakan]

You are straight pushing lies.

Just like all the other times you got called out, I want to see your evidence.

We know you don't actually have any.

You want to see the evidence of online shit posters screwing with people for laughs?

You can youtube internet historian or the fire challenge.

[Edge-]

You want to see the evidence of online shit posters screwing with people for laughs?

As an outsider looking in there seems to be some inconsistency at least from a glance given the odd spikes in voting patterns and the odd policy of destroying ballots after count them?

No, the shit you literally wrote. What spikes in voting patterns? What ballots destroyed after counting?

Share with the rest of the class, please.

[Krakan]

No, the shit you literally wrote. What spikes in voting patterns? What ballots destroyed after counting?

Share with the rest of the class, please.

I thought you were the one who told me it was standard practice to destroy a ballet after its counted to protect the person's identity... I learned it from you unless I drastically misunderstood.

As for the spike I admit to mild skepticism on the mail in ballots myself I doubt they swayed as much as claimed.

[Edge-]

I thought you were the one who told me it was standard practice to destroy a ballet after its counted to protect the person's identity... I learned it from you unless I drastically misunderstood.

It was? Where?

As for the spike I admit to mild skepticism on the mail in ballots myself I doubt they swayed as much as claimed.

So...nothing, again? Weird that these "suspicious" things don't seem to have sources that aren't your imagination.

[Machismo]

You want to see the evidence of online shit posters screwing with people for laughs?

You can youtube internet historian or the fire challenge.

Yep, let's see you back up your bullshit claims.

[Krakan]

It was? Where?



So...nothing, again? Weird that these "suspicious" things don't seem to have sources that aren't your imagination.

Thought it was you from the old trump thread page 1830 roughly. I think I mixed you up with another poster... I could be wrong but there are over 40 pages of posts that show up in the search tool so I'm willing to say I misremembered and put someone else in your place.

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Yep, let's see you back up your bullshit claims.

I mean it's in what your quoting.... I'm not sure if you being satirical or not.

[Edge-]

Thought it was you from the old trump thread page 1830 roughly. I think I mixed you up with another poster... I could be wrong but there are over 40 pages of posts that show up in the search tool so I'm willing to say I misremembered and put someone else in your place.

Alright, but surely that's not your only source...?

I mean it's in what your quoting.... I'm not sure if you being satirical or not.

Mild skepticism based off of...mild skepticism, which at this point is pretty silly given that we've had pretty extensive, and in some locations repeat, recounts that found no evidence of fraud and repeatedly verified the results.

At this point continuing to believe this kinda stuff is like flat earth nonsense.

[Mihalik]

sip.

You see, the problem here is that it's the wrong people doing the counting.

What we need is the local chapter of the KKK and the Proud Boys to get together to do a recount. Supervised by some chaps from the Heritage Foundation and Project Veritas.

The NRA can provide security and the Russian Embassy can send some "international observers".

I'm sure then, we will find those tens of thousands of fraudulent ballots cast by illegal immigrants.

[Machismo]

Thought it was you from the old trump thread page 1830 roughly. I think I mixed you up with another poster... I could be wrong but there are over 40 pages of posts that show up in the search tool so I'm willing to say I misremembered and put someone else in your place.

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I mean it's in what your quoting.... I'm not sure if you being satirical or not.

I mean, I'm still waiting.

[Krakan]

I mean, I'm still waiting.

Your waiting on proof that people on the internet fuck with random people..? I would say your posts are rather meta right now if I believed you self aware enough to realize it...

[Machismo]

Your waiting on proof that people on the internet fuck with random people..? I would say your posts are rather meta right now if I believed you self aware enough to realize it...

I'm waiting on you to back up your bullshit claims, like when you made claims about American discrimination laws, and never backed it up.

It's fine, I accept your full retraction.

[Gelannerai]

As for the spike I admit to mild skepticism on the mail in ballots myself I doubt they swayed as much as claimed.

I mean, I’m more than a little skeptical of Lindsey Graham’s lopsided victory in SC with the very visible outpouring of support that Jaime Harrison was getting combined with Trump supporters here regularly attacking Graham, but I’m not going to claim that I have evidence to back that feeling up.

Being skeptical is not itself evidence that there is actually something to be skeptical of. See flat-earthers.

[Breccia]

Observers of the Arizona audit say they were mocked over shirt color and witnessed software malfunctions, security violations, and personnel issues with the controversial GOP-led ballot count.

At least the AZ SecState is making a running tally of the damages. Already it's clear she has enough to destroy this "recount" in any unbiased court of law. I mean, I could find fraud in, say, Texas, enough to flip it blue, if you let me bring in my fellow NY anti-Trumpers, throw out reporters, email the data to California for no stated reason, move the ballots multiple times, mark them with my own pens, damage them with my own UV lights, break voting machines so hard they have to be replaced, break my own software so hard it needs to be replaced, and of course call people fags for wearing pink shirts.

"Why would you do that last one?"

Oh, I wouldn't. Cyber Ninjas did. Yeah, I thought it was going to be "they said a blue shirt meant Biden supporter" but, no, it was "pink shirt means gay".

[Krakan]

I mean, I’m more than a little skeptical of Lindsey Graham’s lopsided victory in SC with the very visible outpouring of support that Jaime Harrison was getting combined with Trump supporters here regularly attacking Graham, but I’m not going to claim that I have evidence to back that feeling up.

Being skeptical is not itself evidence that there is actually something to be skeptical of. See flat-earthers.

Same boat.

[Biglog]

There has never been any chance this would change any election results. It's been more of a political move (like the GOP blocking the 1/6 commission) to continue to perpetuate the Q/Trump lie that there was cheating, or the insane fantasy that Trump will magically be "reinstated", pandering to the far-right Trump cult base. These votes were monitored by Republicans live, counted and recounted by both Demo/Republicans monitoring, checked for any errors, etc. and none were found. After that, the wacky AZ GOP decided to do this at their own cost with their own people completely independently so they could arbitrarily declare ''cheating" without any evidence (same reason the 50+ court cases they tried all were laughed out) to try to score political points.

For the folks that still buy the cheating fantasy...I hope they are aware that Trump said in late October, BEFORE the election even happened, that if he lost he would take it to court and fight the results. Which he did. But the fact that so people were told by a President days prior to the election if I lose I will claim the other person cheated, he lost, claimed cheating as he said, no evidence of cheating was found despite countless futile attempts to find even a scrap of it, and yet grown adults actually bought his lie. It's the same reason you still see people make graphics of Trump holding a hammer and lightning bolts making him out to look muscular and almost Thor godlike. Or deifying him in paintings with Jesus and/or the founding fathers.

The scary part is now we know exactly why Trump was so deified by a lot of his base. Racism, hate, and marginalizing minority groups are emotions that are unfortunately still alive and well in too many people. And when gas is poured on those emotions it can bring them out of the woodwork like it did.

The good part is that a majority of the voting populous realized the mistake and rectified it. Trump joined the esteemed list of other modern day failed 1 term Presidents like Ford (not even a full 1), Carter, and H.W. Bush. You have to kind of be a disaster to lose as a sitting President since the incumbency is always worth a least a few points. So the idea that Trump would run again and win in 2024 isn't happening (if he was allowed to after 1/6 which is a big question itself). Outside of the risk of cultists trying another 1/6 after Trump inevitably lost again, I'm sure Biden would love to run against the guy he already handily beat by *74* electoral votes with Trump as sitting President. Unless Biden's first term is equally as disastrous as 2016-2020 was, there is absolutely no chance Trump would beat Biden in 2024. It would be even more of a win for Biden. The GOP knows this, which is the reason they are trying to hard to restrict voting rights as much as possible to try to manipulate the system (a lot like their other favorite practice gerrymandering) for their benefit to try to skew future election results. It's why we need a comprehensive voting rights act. We cannot have red states making it so people from areas they don't think will vote the way the GOP wants have to jump through 50 hoops on a Tuesday between 1:05pm and 1:12pm to vote. Those are simply modern-day Jim Crow laws.

[pathora44]

At least the AZ SecState is making a running tally of the damages. Already it's clear she has enough to destroy this "recount" in any unbiased court of law. I mean, I could find fraud in, say, Texas, enough to flip it blue, if you let me bring in my fellow NY anti-Trumpers, throw out reporters, email the data to California for no stated reason, move the ballots multiple times, mark them with my own pens, damage them with my own UV lights, break voting machines so hard they have to be replaced, break my own software so hard it needs to be replaced, and of course call people fags for wearing pink shirts.

"Why would you do that last one?"

Oh, I wouldn't. Cyber Ninjas did. Yeah, I thought it was going to be "they said a blue shirt meant Biden supporter" but, no, it was "pink shirt means gay".

They weren't calling them gay, they were calling them Pinkos or an old slur for anyone sympathetic to Socialist or Communist ideals.

[Edge-]

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...rrors-at-audit

In notes maintained over the past week, the observers noted confidential documents left in the open, a security gate that was left unlocked for several days and, at one point, a software update that was so riddled with errors and bugs that the cybersecurity company overseeing the audit was forced to roll back to an earlier edition.

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The observers witnessed state Sen. Wendy Rogers (R) taking notes with a black pen, in violation of the stated rules. Rogers and former Secretary of State Ken Bennett (R), who serves as the Senate’s liaison to the audit team, were both seen with cellphones in violation of policies.

Man, I can't believe this clown show is allowed to continue. Seriously, it would be funnier if these people weren't being so completely incompetent about something so important. And Republican officials are not just complicit, they're active participants.

But I don't know if we should expect anything less from the state unironically making their own Zyklon B, yes the same gas used to kill Jews and others during the Holocaust, to execute prisoners.

[Breccia]

Man, I can't believe this clown show is allowed to continue.

Yes, you can.

You know who's in charge.

You know who hired them.

You know what they were told to do, and were happy to agree.

And you know the underlying reason.

You're not surprised this is happening. You're surprised the Republican Party took this long to realize they could do it.

[RaoBurning]

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...rrors-at-audit



Man, I can't believe this clown show is allowed to continue. Seriously, it would be funnier if these people weren't being so completely incompetent about something so important. And Republican officials are not just complicit, they're active participants.

But I don't know if we should expect anything less from the state unironically making their own Zyklon B, yes the same gas used to kill Jews and others during the Holocaust, to execute prisoners.

Man, fuck my stupid ass state. Moreover, how the hell am I just now hearing about this?! Oh the oldest article is only like a week old that's... still objectively horrifying but reflects slightly better on me.

Even if, bold italic underline emphasis if, hydrogen cyanide was more humane than lethal injection—not accounting for death penalty being immoral in the first place, I mean—the goddamned optics alone should have stopped this in the brainstorming phase and got whoever suggested it fired out of a cannon.

Usually when Arizona does something stupid I can at least sit back and look at Florida or something to feel a little better, but there's no panacea for this one.

[PhaelixWW]

Usually when Arizona does something stupid I can at least sit back and look at Florida or something to feel a little better, but there's no panacea for this one.

If the people in charge are the ones screwing up, then you can still feel a bit better. I mean, that mantra had to hold us together through the last four years, amirite?

And unless/until "Arizonaman" surpasses "Floridaman", then you'll always have that silver lining.