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What the world has learned is that America is never more than one election away from losing its goddamned mindMe on Elite : Dangerous | My WoW charactersOriginally Posted by Howard Tayler
There is a choice. Those people should choose to work for a "slave wage" temporarily while they increase their knowledge and marketable skills up to a level that would allow them to get a better job. A non-slave wage job. At any given point in time people should get the best job they can get, even if they feel they are underpaid.
Okay so this is progress because you've admitted that some jobs are actually utter slave wagery. Now none of what you said here explains the mechanism by which one can work for a slave wage and support ones self (let alone any dependants) and simultaneously upgrade their skill set but I'm sure you'll tell me some bs story about some dude you knew who worked 3 jobs to afford his community college degree.
Oh and none of that is a choice btw any more than its a choice to give the mugger your wallet
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It is still a choice.
I agree with you that it's often a terrible, unfair and exploited choice, but no potential employer is literally holding a gun to the applicant's head and forcing them to take the job. The applicant still has to accept the job of their own free will.
That has nothing to do with the employer though, and is still a choice the applicant is making. Take the job or lose those benefits. Again, I agree that it's often a terribly unfair choice, but the employee still has to willingly accept the job.
Just because it's a shitty choice, doesn't mean it's NOT a choice.
The industry average is very heavily influenced by the industry, yes, but it's also influenced by the people who take those jobs. For the kinds of positions I'm talking about here, employees do have SOME bargaining power and can negotiate a higher compensation and therefore affect the industry average. I won't pretend that minimum wage workers have any bargaining power here, because they don't.
All that said, this is why I advocate for things like increased minimum wage, UBI, universal health care, etc... because it would mean the choice the employee's have to make would be much more balanced instead of the terribly unfair one they have now. They wouldn't have to decide between a shitty job with shitty pay to barely survive or ....what essentially amounts to probably not surviving.
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First, you're assuming people working slave wages can afford training, either monetarily or time wise, which is a ridiculous assumption. Second, you're acting like people in this situation have the pick of any one of the slave wage jobs available, and are able to be selective about which one they take, which is garbage.
That's exactly what it means. Again the gunman holding you at gun point and saying your life or your wallet is also technically offering you a choice. No rational sane person actually accepts that this is actually a choice. You have to be either a psychopath or a right wing libertarian to consider that a choice.
Knowledge is nearly free on the internet. People don't need a piece of paper from a formal institution.
Everyone can learn more, and improve, and gain more skills every day regardless of how poor they are. Simply keep learning how to solve more and harder problems and you'll get better and better jobs overtime as your skillset increases. There is infinite opportunity in the economy going forward.
Maybe people want UBI and they can want whatever they want, but the idea that people can't make it unless the government gives them more stuff is just a myth.
to answer this - you do it easily -you simply work more.
if your 40 hours per week is not enough for you then work 60 hours a week .
if working 60 hours per week is not enough ? move to another city / emigrate since your state/country is to poor to live there.
with US passport it shouldnt be that hard
hint - thats what hundreds of milions of people all over the world do .
why should US citizens be special in this regard.
You don't have any comprehension of poverty, then.
We're talking people who can't afford to put three meals on the table consistently. They don't have money to save.
If you want to apply that knowledge to a job? You absolutely need that piece of paper from a formal institution.
Try becoming a doctor without an MD, or a plumber without certification. You won't just not find employers willing to hire you, if you try to freelance, you will be charged with fraud if you get reported.
Also, you've ignored some critical factors. Namely, that the Internet is not free. That equipment to access the internet is not free. That time to invest in doing so is not free. And so on.
A cursory examination of human history demonstrates that you are completely wrong about this. You're denying basic reality at this point. If you were right, poverty wouldn't exist, historically. It does, ergo, you're wrong.Maybe people want UBI and they can want whatever they want, but the idea that people can't make it unless the government gives them more stuff is just a myth.
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Why the hell would any other country take a US citizen's application for immigration, when said US citizen has no employment and can't support themselves?
Your application would be flatly denied here in Canada, at least. US citizens aren't a "win" for other countries just by virtue of being American.
I couldn't care less about resume requirements. If I can do a particular job then I'll prove to the employer that I have more merit than the other cookie cutter applicants. Society makes fake rules about what you "officially" need or don't need. Nobody should care about fake rules and fake requirements.
If you knew anything about hiring, literally anything, you'd know that lacking necessary credentials just gets your application shitcanned without a callback. You'd never get any chance to "prove" what merit you have, because the employer has 50 resumes that do have the credentials they need and they won't waste their time with yours.
This isn't even new: that's been standard hiring practice for decades.
This is so utterly out of touch with reality that one can only wonder if it's a person replying or an ill programmed bot. I'll address the bots talking point just in case any actual humans feel this way. While the bot might not care about "fake rules and fake requirements" the employer certainly does. They're not going to give the bot an opportunity to "prove to the employer that i have more merit" if they don't already meet the qualifications. In fact that's literally why almost any hiring offers state a list of qualifications right from the get go. That's why I say this must be a bot because if you ever applied for a job you would have had this experience. It isn't "society" it's literally the employer listing the required qualifications for an applicant. Again this is so basic.
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Again this is literally the most just basic part of finding a job. Even a fucking child would know this. Even entry level bullshit positions will require a certain level of education. Like even just a box that says level of education check highschool.