Keystone XL Oil Project: DEAD

[Milchshake]

A big win for affected communities, indigenous leaders, and activists that fought this for more than ten years.

Keystone XL Oil Project Abandoned by Developer
Decision ends a yearslong effort to pipe more Canadian crude to the U.S.

It’s official: the Keystone XL is going away for good. The pipeline’s developer announced Wednesday that it’s terminating the project.

For years, the Obama, Trump, and Biden administrations have gone back and forth on allowing the massive transcontinental project to move forward. On his first day in office, Joe Biden canceled the Presidential Permit that his predecessor had granted. Apparently, that was the nail in Keystone XL’s coffin. Soon after, TC Energy suspended work on the project to “consider its options,” but hadn’t fully given up on the pipeline until now.

“We took on a multi-billion dollar corporation and we won!” Dallas Goldtooth, an organizer for the nonprofit Indigenous Environmental Network tweeted. “The People made this happen!”

“THE PEOPLE MADE THIS HAPPEN!”
Native American tribes and activists fought the project for more than ten years. The Rosebud Sioux Tribe, and the Assiniboine and Gros Ventre tribes of the Fort Belknap Indian Reservation sued the Trump administration after it granted the Keystone XL a permit to continue construction. The pipeline threatened their lands and water sources, and the Trump administration didn’t properly consult with the tribes, they said in the suit.

The $8 billion pipeline would have pumped 830,000 barrels of crude oil from Alberta, Canada’s tar sands to Nebraska, where it would connect with other pipelines that reach the Gulf Coast.

Prior to TC Energy’s announcement today, a lot of construction on the pipeline had already taken place in Canada. The company has laid off hundreds of workers since suspending work on the project this year. But neither President Obama nor Biden worried much about taking away American jobs by killing the pipeline. It only would have resulted in 35 full-time permanent jobs in the US once construction was done, according to a State Department analysis. Climate change, made worse by new oil and gas projects, was a bigger threat to American livelihoods, both administrations argued.

[Shadowferal]

R.I.P.
Rust in Pieces...

[Jonnusthegreat]

Nice, it seems that once again, the incredibly horrible speed of our "democracy" has helped the planet once again!

[Machismo]

They should have offered those private landowners more money, instead of trying to force their hand with eminent domain.

[Calfredd]

They should have offered those private landowners more money, instead of trying to force their hand with eminent domain.

Unlike anarcho-capitalists and the other libertarian ideologies, not everyone can be bought off with money.

[Machismo]

Unlike anarcho-capitalists and the other libertarian ideologies, not everyone can be bought off with money.

Good, which is why I was happy to see this project collapse.

[PC2]

They killed Keystone XL but if it turns out we need more oil in 10 years then that'll be the perfect time for Keystone XXL which is better and separate from this one. If it turns out we don't need more oil then yeah this was a great move.

[Blur4stuff]

US/Canada and especially the world is going to look very different in a few decades. We're about to shed a hefty percentage of people that think climate change either isn't real or not a big deal. The old silents/boomers who don't give a shit will be dead and people who will actually have to live in the future hellscape will be much more motivated to change.

I was mindlessly browsing youtube the other night waiting to get sleepy, watching some of those old film reels from city streets. Was amazing watching something from early in the century (like NY) where it's almost entirely horses with one or two cars. Then a piece of film maybe a decade or so later and it's the complete opposite with a few horses and mostly cars. I think we're about to go through a similar period for not just transportation, but in many other ways too.

I know a certain segment of the population wants to pretend none of this is real, but they won't have that luxury for much longer.

[PC2]

The old silents/boomers who don't give a shit will be dead and people who will actually have to live in the future hellscape will be much more motivated to change.

Nobody will have to live in a "future hellscape". That is a gloomy prophecy, nothing more. Humanity is constantly improving our environment and making it more suitable to us. We've done it for thousands of years already and we can keep doing it in the coming decades and centuries.

[Calfredd]

We've done so for thousands of years when we had at most millions of people. Billions of people changes things. The environmental impact of billions of consumers is beyond anything that you can conceive of.

I mean, given his posts (history can't teach us anything about the future, why worry about a problem today when the future will fix it for us, etc.) it doesn't take much.

[beanman12345]

Maybe he read the secret and it caused him to lose all critical thought, and now he's kevin bacon at the end of animal house about to be trampled by reality.

[Rasulis]

They killed Keystone XL but if it turns out we need more oil in 10 years then that'll be the perfect time for Keystone XXL which is better and separate and from this one. If it turns out we don't need more oil then yeah this was a great move.

The Keystone XXL will have to start from scratch. Spend 10 years in legal battle limbo. Then suffer the same fate as Keystone XL.

[Dontrike]

Humanity is constantly improving our environment and making it more suitable to us.

You're right, humanity sure is improving th-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I'm sorry, I couldn't finish that without laughing. Humanity is helping the environmentHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

[Blur4stuff]

I'll just eat as much sugary junk food as I like. The future will cure diabetes. Why not just keep smoking. In the future, they can cure lung cancer probably.

etc...

Anyways, this is the kind of thinking that will evaporate in the coming decades. From my experience talking to people in person over the years, this type of thinking comes from two places. One is the older generations. They can be incredibly selfish and entitled. Nothing we're going through now or will go through is their fault. They're allowed to be as greedy and as wasteful as they like. They didn't do anything wrong and even if they had, someone else is really to blame. It's essentially the Trump philosophy. Sometimes I think of it as an 80s mentality.

The other is religious. Some christians believe we can't possibly cause true harm to the Earth. Not on any kind of grand scale anyways. And even if humans did manage to truly fuck up the planet somehow, god would just fix it. They simply don't give a shit about climate change (or much of anything else) because they honestly don't believe anything bad can happen.

The old people will die of course. Problem solved. Well, maybe not for the rest of us who have to clean up the mess. As for the religious types, most of them won't have a choice but to face reality. At this point is just a question of how much shittier life will be for future generations, not if it will be worse or better. We already know it's going to be tougher. Too late to change that.

[Polyxo]

The Keystone XXL will have to start from scratch. Spend 10 years in legal battle limbo. Then suffer the same fate as Keystone XL.

They probably could've gotten Keystone XL through if their attitude wasn't to just beeline through native lands, especially given their track record. Pipelines are a pretty safe transportation method if they're being regularly and thoroughly inspected, maintained, stress-tested and upgraded when needed. The problem is, they don't, especially in places where Keystone XL was going, because a lot of these companies are like "FUCK IT THEYRE JUST INDIANS". Inevitably, spills happen and neither flyover state governments nor a lot of federal administrations are willing to do anything about it. It's something I'm hoping Deb Haaland will try to do something substantial about, that'll at least be somewhat difficult to reverse.

[Beefhammer]

They probably could've gotten Keystone XL through if their attitude wasn't to just beeline through native lands, especially given their track record. Pipelines are a pretty safe transportation method if they're being regularly and thoroughly inspected, maintained, stress-tested and upgraded when needed. The problem is, they don't, especially in places where Keystone XL was going, because a lot of these companies are like "FUCK IT THEYRE JUST INDIANS". Inevitably, spills happen and neither flyover state governments nor a lot of federal administrations are willing to do anything about it. It's something I'm hoping Deb Haaland will try to do something substantial about, that'll at least be somewhat difficult to reverse.

If all all the rich conservatives really cared about this they'd have no problem allowing it in their areas it was diverted it from to go through native lands in the first place.

[Shadowferal]

Hmf...the future of gas consuming vehicles seems a bit dim. And now that the big issue with fusion reactors may have been solved...
Use of oil won't go completely away, but I can't see where it would be as dominant as it is now.

[Breccia]

And now that the big issue with fusion reactors may have been solved...

Fallout 5 confirmed?

Major real news outlets like CNN have, of course, reported on this. FOX News buried it. I found this one video posted an hour ago which, yeah, look at the first post's time/date. They're fucking pathetic. Where's Tucker Carlson raging? Where's the FOX and Friends round table about how gas will cost $15.75/hogshead? I get they, as mouthpieces of the conservative/Trump minority, are probably upset and don't want to admit their side lost, but where's the outrage? Where's the "this will destroy America?"

Is it because they blew their load when Biden signalled its doom a while back? Or is it because they know time marches on and they'll be left in the dust?

They killed Keystone XL but if it turns out we need more oil in 10 years then that'll be the perfect time for Keystone XXL

If they need Keystone 3XL or higher, they should bring in Lane Bryant. They can handle curves like nobody else.

[Shadowferal]

Fallout 5 confirmed? .

Um..well...um..maybe?
No no!
Perhaps the term "cautiously optimistic" is a good fit.

This Reactor May Have Finally Solved Nuclear Fusion's Biggest Problem

China's Artificial Sun Just Smashed a Fusion World Record

That does sound kinda scary...

[s_bushido]

Where's Tucker Carlson raging? Where's the FOX and Friends round table about how gas will cost $15.75/hogshead?

Judging by their front page: Still too busy trying to terrify their audience of the nefarious black, brown, and socialist people.