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    Tesla Will Have to Ship Its Texas-Built Cars Out of State to Sell Back to Residents

    Heh! Pretty badly written article. However, it does get the point across. Posted it in the wrong Forum. Sorry.

    Tesla Will Have to Ship Its Texas-Built Cars Out of State to Sell Back to Residents

    Teslas haven't been completely unavailable to Texans this whole time; instead, buyers have had to use various inconvenient loopholes to take home their new electric cars. Now, Tesla is on the verge of having to jump through the most ridiculous one yet: having to ship its Austin-built vehicles out of the state before it can sell (and ship) them back to Lone Star buyers.

    This is not some weird hypothetical. There's not enough time left in the current legislative section to advance the bill that was supposed to avert that Kafkaesque outcome. This is going to happen unless Texas Governor Greg Abbott calls a special session specifically to debate this topic--extremely unlikely--or some arcane regulatory exemption can be crafted for Tesla in the months ahead. So how did we end up here?

    Under Texas franchise laws, which are similar to those in most other states, automakers like Toyota and General Motors cannot sell you a car. They must sell their cars to independently owned third-party businesses that in turn sell them to Texans--you know, new-car dealerships.

    As it stands, Tesla's company-owned outlets cannot legally sell a car in Texas, nor can the company "deliver" a car within the state even if bought by a Texan. Owners had regularly rallied against this soft ban as early as 2013. There are workarounds, some detailed on forums within Tesla's own website. The company has more than a dozen Texas "galleries," where cars can be viewed and described--though staffers may not discuss prices.

    Any Texan can go online and order a Tesla through the company's website. But no orders may be placed or processed within any Texas facility owned by Tesla. One buyer noted his paperwork had been FedExed to and from a Tesla Store in Nevada for completion.

    Once ordered, the vehicle is shipped to one of Tesla's eight Texas service centers. The buyer must first pay for it online (from outside the facility grounds), and can then drive it away--meaning Tesla has not actually "delivered" the car to a buyer, but simply made it available to be "picked up" by an existing owner.

    Texas is quite happy to register it and collect sales tax on the purchase, of course.

    At last, change was expected by many in 2021 because the backdrop to the state's legislative session was substantially different than it was in 2019. Following a highly publicized site search for its second U.S. vehicle assembly plant, the company announced in July 2020 it had chosen Austin, Texas. That Austin plant is now well into construction, and production of the Tesla Cybertruck and other EVs is to start within the next 12 months. Tesla has posted hundreds of job openings, and said it hopes to employ 5,000 people.

    Most of the auto industry presumed that in exchange for dropping a billion dollars or so into the Texas economy, Tesla had extracted a promise or a handshake deal that the ban on selling its vehicles would be lifted. Otherwise, it was noted at the time, Tesla would face the peculiar prospect of having to ship all Texas-built vehicles out of the state--even those to be delivered to buyers within five miles of its new plant. No way that would actually happen, right?

    On March 12, State Representative Cody Harris [R-District 8] introduced HB 4379, a bill that would have essentially permitted Tesla to deliver electric cars in the state. The bill crafted a narrow exception to the dealer franchise law that would allow automakers to sell cars directly in Texas if they solely built battery-electric vehicles and never maintained franchised distributors in Texas. Only Tesla and a handful of EV startups fit that description.

    HB 4379 was finally heard by the House Transportation Committee on May 11, two months after it was filed by Rep. Harris. That was a win, of sorts: Earlier versions of the bill in previous sessions hadn't even gotten that far. Sadly for Tesla, that's where it ended; the hearing was simply the first of seven steps that must occur within 140 days for a bill to become law in Texas. But the bill was not passed out of committee by the deadline of May 13, meaning it will progress no further. The direct-sale ban will remain in place.

    A different EV bill, HB 2221, filed by Transportation Committee chair Terry Canales [D-District 40] was voted out of committee. The "Electric Transportation Act" has five ambitious goals to spur EV usage in Texas, but it stalled after that step.

    Jeff Carlson, Harris's chief of staff, was simply pleased HB 4379 got its committee hearing in the first place: "That's a big deal," he said. He expressed confidence the testimony would "open some eyes" in the state to the positive attributes of allowing direct EV sales. He suggested such sales would be "the future of the state," which might well like to attract other EV makers once Tesla has opened its plant. He also pointed out that the outcome reflects the way the Texas Legislature is designed to operate. "It's a process built to kill bills, not to pass them," Carlson said.

    So another bill to exempt Tesla (and other direct-sale automakers) will have to be introduced two years hence, and the process will start all over again.

    To be clear, while this particular bill got tripped up by Texas' unique legislative calendar, it also faced the same lobbying headwinds that have stalled similar efforts to break the grip of dealers nationwide--not just over the last few years, but stretching back decades.

    During the 1990s, when carmakers wanted to clamp down on the worst of their dealers and compete with corporate dealership chains like AutoNation, they floated the idea of buying existing dealerships or setting up company stores to sell their cars. The idea was that shoppers might prefer a fixed price for a car, without the "price adjustment" markups on popular models, let alone the hard sells for everything from undercoating and floor mats to nitrogen-filled tires or financing that gives the dealer a cut of the profits.

    Understandably, dealers who had significant investments in property, operations, and employees, often over generations of family ownership, were alarmed. They feared carmakers selling direct could undercut them on price. Relatively quickly, lobbyists for each state's auto dealers convinced state politicians to add provisions to their franchise laws making it illegal for carmakers to sell in direct competition with their own franchised dealers.

    And there it rested until Tesla came along. It had no franchised dealers to be protected, so it reasoned those laws shouldn't apply to it. It opened company stores and sold its cars online, offering to deliver them to any address a customer specified.

    Car dealers disagreed, vehemently. In fact, they appeared to view Tesla's model as an existential threat. As early as 2010, the Colorado Automobile Dealers Association got a bill passed that widened the ban to any automaker trying to sell any car to a member of the public.

    Wedbush Securities analyst Daniel Ives told the Austin American-Statesman in March that Tesla producing cars in Texas that it first had to ship out of state to sell to Texans "would be a huge (public relations) black eye for Texas." He said he would be "shocked" if lawmakers didn't change the rules.

    That doesn't appear to have concerned the legislature. It spent a very great deal of time debating firearms, reproductive rights, religious concerns, and which bathrooms trans kids would be permitted to use. It did not change its franchise laws. There is some talk of a follow-up special session, though it can address only issues specifically cited as reasons it must be held. Franchise laws will not be one.
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    Ah yes, the auto industry, they successfully lobbied mountains of bullshit into law over the past century or so (hence why roads are all now for cars instead of people). Car dealerships are economic parasites that add no value to the products they sell.

    Here is to hoping Tesla decides to screw over the car dealerships and figure out some legal loophole to sell them via the internet without actually having to waste the fuel and time transporting the vehicles out of state to sell them in-state.
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    "Can't sell your cars unless you go through a third party dealer". "Free market btw".

    lol texas

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenJesus View Post
    "Can't sell your cars unless you go through a third party dealer". "Free market btw".

    lol texas
    It is free market. Whichever special interest groups that donate the most money will get the legislative bills that are favorable to them.

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    I dislike both Elon Musk and bullshit Texas laws, it's great both are coming to blows.

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    I love it when people use loopholes to get around stupid laws designed to screw over ordinary people. This is win-win. I live in Ohio...one of the two states (the other being Virginia) that can't use Tesla's referral program due to our own stupid laws. I'm picking up my Model 3 on Sunday (May 30)...been waiting almost two months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenJesus View Post
    "Can't sell your cars unless you go through a third party dealer". "Free market btw".

    lol texas
    Exactly - fucking Texas, just unbelievable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Exactly - fucking Texas, just unbelievable.
    It's not really unexpected. It's a republican state, so hypocricy is just the norm. I think it's hilarious that Tesla has a (relatively) easy workaround to just give them the middle finger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormspark View Post
    It's not really unexpected. It's a republican state, so hypocricy is just the norm. I think it's hilarious that Tesla has a (relatively) easy workaround to just give them the middle finger.
    The funnier thing is that this workaround was pioneered by sex shops.

    Not kidding - thanks to interstate commerce being a federal thing, Texas' ban on the sale of adult toys doesn't apply if they come from out of state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    It is free market. Whichever special interest groups that donate the most money will get the legislative bills that are favorable to them.
    Sounds less like "free market" and more like "pay to win"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormspark View Post
    It's not really unexpected. It's a republican state, so hypocricy is just the norm. I think it's hilarious that Tesla has a (relatively) easy workaround to just give them the middle finger.
    Good point. Just more GQP bullshit stacked upon bullshit. Glad to hear there is a workaround.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    It is free market. Whichever special interest groups that donate the most money will get the legislative bills that are favorable to them.
    I mean, they should be careful with that approach, Elon has a LOT of money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunseeker View Post
    I mean, they should be careful with that approach, Elon has a LOT of money.
    True - but SpaceX is his real focus. And SpaceX benefits from all those "free market" laws in Texas. Tesla having to ship vehicles out of and then back into state isn't a huge burden for him. At least not enough to upset all the joy he's getting for SpaceX.

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