Hmm odd. I thought the whole point of the underlying Win10 rewrite was that they wouldn't have to push new releases anymore. I have to wonder what is different enough in Win11 to warrant a new version.
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This. I even had one of the MS guys tell us that on a seminar a couple of years ago. Heck he was even going on and on about how they made it so that you can write your software in a way that it works on every platform with a WinOS, because they unified the complete base code, yet it's all modular and stuff. So what can 11 do that 10 can't ? I'm sure the bar isn't it.
Edit: Never had a customer ask for MacOS stuff either. In my industry (mechanical engineering) at worst you get the occasional request for some monitoring software that runs on iOS, but I've never had anyone ask for something on MacOS. I thought they pretty much only have customers in the art industry.
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Brah, how exactly they are the best? HP, Dell have superior mobile workstations performance wise (which is what you want, not how it looks. Though even looks are debatable now), not to mention the desktop ones (Mac Pro aka trash can has like 2-3 times less capacity).
OS itself? Mostly covered by usage of Linux (hello Bash. Oh, it is even on Windows now), officially supported by all the major manufacturers.
And don't let me even start about enterprise support or warranty cases. Trust me, don't.
P.S.
Yes, AD and it's integration is THE thing. It really is just so convenient when every single tool from MS (and not only) ties into it. I know there are Samba AD and some others, but alas...
The old control panel can die for all I care - when everything will actually be in the new one.
"This will be the year of Linux!" ... for the last 15 years.
What's wrong with macOS AD integration? What problems have you encountered? I mean we were the definition of Microsoft shop - .NET on the backend, TypeScript on the front end, SQL Server for DB, etc etc etc. And today more and more people are moving to macOS, while still being mainly on Microsoft stack. I boot older Dell only when I'm on support duty and have to update old projects that are written in VB.NET or using WWF or some other old crap. No problems using macOS in modern Microsoft heavy environment.
also - lol bash in 2021
So you're a product manager who zooms and updates Jira and uses Outlook and PowerPoint and some BI tools. Do you choose:
A) Hot loud Dell that will not last you whole workday on battery
B) Cool silent MBP that will last you whole workday
I mean... On what planet are people choosing A? Also, on what planet do people develop iOS apps on Windows?
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For On-Prem deployments of AD, yeah, but even still - that can be managed on a Mac as well. Now that more and more companies are moving to AzureAD or using an entirely different IAM platform, the need for Windows is ever-decreasing.
There are a lot of us "IT People" do all of that, daily, on Macs, natively.
We do it because it is really easy to support Windows PC's using a Mac, but very difficult to support a Mac environment using Windows PC's.
There is nothing I can't do on my Mac that has ever made me wish for a Windows PC. Thanks to Virtualization, and more specifically Citrix application deployments, I'll never need to use a Windows PC again.
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That's the idiots in the company's fault, not the OS.
I don't know. Never heard anyone complaining about being unable to login or change password at work. Are you sure your sysadmins are not crap?
Well I did say "lol bash". Allow me to blow your mind - there's more shells than Bash. Like, a lot more - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compar...command_shellsLol at using a shell in 2021? Really? I have yet to see a place which does not use some kind of commandline.
At my workplace people are mostly using zsh, then fish and powershell (yea .NET devs, powershell lol). Even alpine in containers is using busybox and not bash lol. Damn, last time I saw Bash live was like in 2014.
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yall im smh @ ur simplified english
JAMF is handy for some things, but the same can be achieved in SCCM, or using VMWare's WorkspaceOne. Costs less than JAMF, and they are actually keen to negotiate terms and contracts. JAMF tends to be real hardliners about terms/conditions/costs.
I don't think the LOL is at using a shell, just Bash specifically. ZSH is a winner.
1> Windows laptops have been matching Apple laptops in pretty much every possible respect for at least the last decade or so, and probably longer. Apple has pretty much never had a significant tech advantage there. Particularly if you match price points (which you should, if you're making an honest comparison).
2> What offices are you working at where you're operating off battery all day?
3> Sure, for developing apps for an Apple ecosphere, Apple is superior. Surprising no one. That's a niche market, and I don't know why you're using it as your standard. There are more Android devices out there in terms of market share, and it isn't really close; current figures are nearly 3:1 in Android's favor. And it's a niche market not just because iOS isn't dominant, but because app development itself is a niche market. "Productivity" refers to basically all office work that relies on computers, not just software development.
Idev, have you ever heard Mac (say, Pro 15" 2015, 2016 model) screaming your ears out when attempting to do some heavy lifting? Hot, loud and does not last whole day. Yes, MBP, not Dell, Lenovo or HP.
Happens when you try to make something ultra thin cause that's cool with too powerful CPU, which thermal throttles to shit.
I'm a zsh boomer, I don't need ur fancy fishes and other magicathings! Where's my soda???
Yeah life comparing mbp and dells is easier when 2021 and late 2020 don't exist. Everyone at the office are so happy with M1s, I will personally notify them that they actually have actually expensive laptops with bad screens, bad touchpads and they are hot and loud.
Regarding your second point - a nice office building, which is owned by the company and has nice big yard with plants and gazebos and what not. I spend summer works hours outside. M1 battery life helps. :-) Also, ever heard of workations? Like, jesus, you dell people, your life fucking sucks. Corporate lifeless drones. Next month I will be spending my work days literally at the beach, whole 8 hours. Thanks Apple! With Dell I had to spend morning at the hotel plugged in, and only move to the beach for second half of the day.
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yall im smh @ ur simplified english