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  1. #81
    Why make it look like MacOS? I want it to look like Win 3.1 !!


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    Wasn't windows 10 meant to be the final windows?
    What? And stop making money forcing people to upgrade (after stopping support to prior version) for security reasons!!?

  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanstos View Post
    I don't like how -

    - The new centered navigation bar is incongruent with the "corner" navigation theme the rest of the OS has.

    - Putting the windows popup in the center blocks the primary field of view the user has for what they're doing.

    - The icons look stylistically stiff and dated.

    - More wasn't done to improve the UI (though I understand it's an early build)

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    It looks like a new interface for Mac. And what's up with the icons being in the center of the taskbar. I hope you can move them, because holy f**k it borthers me lol
    I don't play WoW anymore smh.

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    When Win98 came out, one of the selling points to computer makers/sellers was that it required significantly better hardware to run the new OS.

    So how will this one be in that regard? Will I need to buy a new computer? Or will this one (about a year old now) continue to perform as good as it does.

    My old machine was running Win7 and once I upgraded the OS to Win10, it didn't take long before I was having issues.

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    All I need Windows to do is shut up and get out of my way. No ads, no spying and no functions changes except for security patches.

    I’m guessing Win11 will deliver on none of the above.
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  6. #86
    I saw the leaked build being used in a LTT video, and as a power user, based solely on what I've seen in that 1 video, there were several aspects I was immediately wary of.

    Microsoft trying to phase out right click in general to make the system behave the same across desktops and tablets is probably my biggest issue with it.

    Not being able to right click anywhere on the taskbar to open task manager is a major issue for me.

    The windows button being centralized doesn't improve anything either. It's much easier to throw a mouse in the bottom left corner every time to quickly open the power menu.

    Separating the search feature from the Windows menu seems wholly unnecessary. Especially considering the fact that writing with the Windows menu open will switch to the search window anyway. This will cause issues on servers/VMs without graphical hardware acceleration.

    On a personal note, I frankly don't care for the new shell either. It gives off obvious MacOS vibes and if I cared for that sort of UI I'd buy a Mac.

    That said, I'll probably upgrade regardless on my personal machine if there's a free upgrade path just to test out the finished build myself.

    At work we only just started upgrading our clients machines to W10. Granted, they've bought extended support for W7, but that support expires in October.

    Undoubtedly they'll also be buying extended support for W10 before they upgrade to W11.

    Fortunately our clients use a custom shell anyway, so the new W11 shell will never be an issue. Only underlying functionality really matters.
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  7. #87
    EEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHH.

    I don't see any valid reason for them to change the ui this way just to copy (badly) MacOS. While i also dislike MacOS ui.

    Every update i just turn off everything new they add because it's mostly useless bloat like widgets, toolbars etc i'll NEVER use. I mean, seems more a tablet OS than a pc one, i just see it less functional than the current one.

    I'm not against changes, and i will update for sure. But the reasons why these changes are made, i cannot really get them. Hell, most people who are not tech-savy will just endlessly complain about how things are different and "why they changed X" and "where do i find Y". Win10 was perfectly functional and people got used to it. I know for sure that in my company if we can change the UI through policies/configurations to resemble the Win10 one, we're just gonna do it by default.
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    Way too early beta build to get an opinion of yet from what I've seen. I look forward to the 24th or whatever it is when they announce it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ldev View Post
    Again, 2021 and 2020 happened. Like, how the tables have turned - windows users are now deploying reality distortion field where ARM revolution didn't happen lol.



    Well, duh, captain obvious. This is everywhere - flat earthers laugh at globetards, anti vaxxers laugh at covidiots who fear covid, etc. Plenty of windows users going "hehehe for cheaper I can get shit battery life and shit touchpad and shit screen and shit creaking plastic laptops, take that, apple users!" )
    You really haven't seen modern Windows laptops. Or any modern Windows laptop for the last 5 years, I guess. MBP's are still screaming, though.
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    Nearly every modern electronic device and server is Linux based, apart from desktop PC's: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux

    If Microsoft don't sort themselves out and start treating there customers like customers again and not just a commodity to farm for ad data, Linux will carry on growing and make more inroads into the desktop market IMO.
    This has been said since the 90's. Still hasn't happened. It never will because Lunux is for those that know what the hell they are doing. You will NEVER sell that to a market which has been on Windows since the 1990's.

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    When Win98 came out, one of the selling points to computer makers/sellers was that it required significantly better hardware to run the new OS.

    So how will this one be in that regard? Will I need to buy a new computer? Or will this one (about a year old now) continue to perform as good as it does.

    My old machine was running Win7 and once I upgraded the OS to Win10, it didn't take long before I was having issues.
    If you can run Windows 10, you will be able to run 11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bwonsamdi the Dead View Post
    It looks like a new interface for Mac. And what's up with the icons being in the center of the taskbar. I hope you can move them, because holy f**k it borthers me lol
    Yes, you can move them.

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    They can throw millions of dollars on engineers and designers but they choose to copy Apple which copied Deepin. On top of that windows tiling that have been in Linux for long time...bloody innovative.
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    Looks like just another thing to get me to spend 100 dollars on with no other practical purpose so they can make more money. Id rather just go back to xp or 7 at this point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    Looks like just another thing to get me to spend 100 dollars on
    windows upgrade are free since win7... WTF are you hating on ?
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    Will it add another layer of opacity on the more advanced parameters, like network and such ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ealyssa View Post
    windows upgrade are free since win7... WTF are you hating on ?
    I had to buy a copy of 10 for my last build, so if 11 lasts for another 10 years ill probably have to buy another 11 down the road eventually. And either way, what is the point of this when 10 is functional and less ugly as is?

  16. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by MechanoDruid View Post
    Menu bar in middle of bottom row fits layout very well on MacOS because:
    - There is nothing on left/right of it.
    - Though technically it does take an entire row, it is transparent outside of buttons, making it look like it is small.

    Windows implementation is ugly. If you stick to keeping junk in bottom right corner, keep everything else in bottom left corner, don't center it. It looks messy.
    It can be moved to the left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paperfox View Post
    When Win98 came out, one of the selling points to computer makers/sellers was that it required significantly better hardware to run the new OS.

    So how will this one be in that regard? Will I need to buy a new computer? Or will this one (about a year old now) continue to perform as good as it does.

    My old machine was running Win7 and once I upgraded the OS to Win10, it didn't take long before I was having issues.
    It says it works well on old hardware and the requirements are no higher. I ran Win 10 on an old single core laptop and it ran fine. It was only limited by the 2gb RAM maximum on the machine. It ran better than Win 7 did on the same machine. A newer quad core laptop that came with Win 7 was upgraded to 10 with absolutely no issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    You don't need to tell me what was where since when, I'm using Windows since 3.11.

    It does not matter what they had for zillion years, what matters is how well it is designed and if they go ahead and align icons to center like MacOS/OSX is doing since forever, then they should take opportunity and do the one obvious thing and remove the unused greyish space at the bottom the way MacOS/OSX does for said many years, because you know... it just makes sense in 2021.

    Take note - no ugly unused white space at the bottom, while bar icons are centered. Shocking.



    The "but it used to be this way in 80s, so it's how it should be" is just silly.
    haha.....they just put the ugly shit at the top....

    also, you seem very salty talking about computer operating systems. I suggest finding a source of joy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    Idev, have you ever heard Mac (say, Pro 15" 2015, 2016 model) screaming your ears out when attempting to do some heavy lifting? Hot, loud and does not last whole day. Yes, MBP, not Dell, Lenovo or HP.
    Happens when you try to make something ultra thin cause that's cool with too powerful CPU, which thermal throttles to shit.
    We replaced all the teacher macbooks in my district with, I want to say 2018, Macbook Pros. Can't say I'm a fan. Everything you listed (I think I read/heard that they vent heat through the keyboard, which means crumb catchers/key covers just cause more overheating), weird ass hoops to jump through to get the permissions for some hardware/apps to even appear in the security settings in the first place, plus—and this is our fault for being dumbasses—no native video output. Just 2 USB-C ports. Which, great, you can buy hubs, but that's just an extra piece of equipment to purchase, track, and replace.

    Even our 6 year old Chromebook have a built in HDMI output. Though, I could write an essay on all the absolute trashbin problems we've had with the Lenovo Chromebooks. Never had a model without a massive design flaw. Something like a third of our entire district's inventory is in a perpetual cycle of warranty repair. Hopefully the switch to ASUS helps with that.
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    Can't they just port gnome to Windows and spare us from misery?

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