Forced to recraft legendaries

[Dracullus]

Upgrading existing legendary takes tons less Soul Ash which means weeks less Choreghast grinds.

Needing to make brand new legendaries for every effect means months of suffering in that damn tower.

Doesn't fresh crafted white items in 9.1 come with socket? It means upgrading to 5/6 = legendary piece with socket.

[Dzonathan]

The issue isn't so bad for Kyrian paladins if you were focused mostly on PvE.

If you play all 3 specs like me then you're likely going to need to remake Bulwark of Righteous Fury from shoulders and Final Verdict from chest.
Sounds bad right? No really.

Our new Kyrian Legendary "Divine Resonance" is so good that its a good contender to replace both.
So if you'll be patient and wait 4 weeks till 48 renown to unlock it then you'll just have to craft that leggo alone straight to rank 6 as you should save up enough Soul Cinders by then.

Also it's not unlikely you'll get new chest and shoulder pieces from the new raid straight away unless you're super lucky or make sure to do 6 full clears (3x normal, 3x heroic) until renown 48.

[Malania]

Yeah, I'm picturing 6 months in the future after all the "wow is dead ima go play ff" gaymers finally slog through the msq and realise there is less world content and more daily chores than wow.

But it's purty.

Also old news is old. Move on or keep up.

[Dzonathan]

Farming sockets? LOL, socket free on new leggo.

Which ones? Domination or regular gems?

[kamuimac]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/legenda...writers-322953

Having to recraft legendaries in new slots because of the new powerful domination items, how is there not more outrage about this

im sure that if your goal is just getting AoTC and KSM you dont need to recraft anything

and who cares about what nolifers have to do in game

[Kallisto]

Exactly! People complain about the whole thing, not only about the ash (which is still overwhelming in the cases you mention). Feels like they are designing the game as we are going, they don't have a unitary vision of an entire expansion.

Because that's suicidal with the wow community to have a vision and sticking to it when you have in essence a community that has 20 conflicting ideas per person on how the game should be run. Every reaction they do is basically because of the complaints of the previous tier.

They'd be absolutely no one left if they stuck to a vision.

[erifwodahs]

im sure that if your goal is just getting AoTC and KSM you dont need to recraft anything

and who cares about what nolifers have to do in game

Classic it's not a problem if it doesn't apply to me... That's why we have what we have now.

[Lolites]

If Final Fantasy did not have more subscribers than WoW, it surely will have after this week of it getting free advertisement and encouragement for people to quit WoW and play FF by almost every major WoW streamer...

bwaahahahahahahahaa

no, it will not, FF at its peak MAYBE came CLOSE to sub numbers wow had now when it had content drought and was in weak point, after patch people will (as ALWAYS) come to wow again and FF can keep dreaming about ever achieving the peaks wow have...

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Dude, stop. There is only one fact that needs to be acknowledged here: "FFXIV being better than WoW" has turned into the hottest meme in the WoW and FF communities over the past few weeks.

and as with most memes, its not true and not even funny
i tried FF once, i was baffled how someone can think its better than wow... imo, it cant even be compared, wow is completely different league

[Yarathir]

Which ones? Domination or regular gems?

Regular. So yeah.

[Qnubi]

Problem doesn't exist:

Leggos get new ranks > new ranks require new currency called cinders > you purchase the rank 5 legendary piece of your choice with no socket interference > you can craft a rank 5 without first crafting rank 1,2,3,4 as long as you have the new currency > no downside.

[Dracullus]

I think there is too much chaos in this topic. Could someone with PTR knowledge can correct me where I'm wrong?

1. This "whole new system" are just 9 new gems, from which 5 are your bis and you don't care about others. They drops only in SoD, so bonus from them is not as important in M+/PVP? <- that thing I completely don't know, but didn't notice big drama from M+/PVP players

2. All raiders will try to craft rank 5 and later 6 legendary asap. Scrap that, all people that care about their power in general.

3. Is it safe to say you will get rank 5 legendary before you get 5th domination gem?

4. When you upgrade your rank 4 legendary to rank 5 legendary on 'wrong' slot, new piece will have socket.

If what I said is correct... what is source of this drama again? (beside Blizzard terrible communication and terrible community of course)

[kaminaris]

Problem doesn't exist:

Leggos get new ranks > new ranks require new currency called cinders > you purchase the rank 5 legendary piece of your choice with no socket interference > you can craft a rank 5 without first crafting rank 1,2,3,4 as long as you have the new currency > no downside.

Just how hard is to understand that this problem is very much real because

you could just LEAVE THE DAMNED LEGGO alone only if there would be no overlap with new socket system.

And funny part is that this hits waaaay harder casual players than tryhards.

Because your average joe wouldn't be spending any gold on upgrading leggos, they would be fine with what they have.

Now scenarios:

Average joe goes normal raid, gets a new piece of gear that is the same slot as his leggo ->
A. Spend gold (at the beginning those will be damn expensive) to recraft legendary
B. Keep the new piece in bags hoping prices will go down (because leggo is still more powerful unless blizzard "balances" it)

And now imagine if this new piece would be his 3rd one to complete the bonus

[rhorle]

Average joe goes normal raid, gets a new piece of gear that is the same slot as his leggo ->
A. Spend gold (at the beginning those will be damn expensive) to recraft legendary

Which is no more expensive then upgrading it to rank 5. So just upgrade a different legendary to rank 5 and the only cost is more soul ash. Which is most cases you should get by the time you get enough soul cinders to upgrade to rank 5. It isn't an issue because of the way the upgrade system works. It doesn't require previous ranks so it is equal to "recrafting" in a different slot.

[kaminaris]

Which is no more expensive then upgrading it to rank 5. So just upgrade a different legendary to rank 5 and the only cost is more soul ash. Which is most cases you should get by the time you get enough soul cinders to upgrade to rank 5. It isn't an issue because of the way the upgrade system works. It doesn't require previous ranks so it is equal to "recrafting" in a different slot.

Or just LEAVE IT AS IT IS? And not spend anything because of stupid system?

[rhorle]

Or just LEAVE IT AS IT IS? And not spend anything because of stupid system?

So you wouldn't upgrade your legendary to rank 5? That means this is even less of an issue because you don't care about your characters power so getting a shard of domination wouldn't impact your legendary.

[Alroxas]

1. This "whole new system" are just 9 new gems, from which 5 are your bis and you don't care about others. They drops only in SoD, so bonus from them is not as important in M+/PVP? <- that thing I completely don't know, but didn't notice big drama from M+/PVP players

The 3-socket bonus doesn't work in M+ nor PvP but the individual shards still work.

For instance, the Unholy Shard of Dyz [Damaging a target increases your damage done to that target by X% for 4 sec, stacking up to 3 times (X% based on rank of shard)] still works in all content but the 3-socket unholy bonus (Chaos Bane) only works in Torghast, Maw or Sanctum Raid.

The actual gem effect is still a power gain.

2. All raiders will try to craft rank 5 and later 6 legendary asap. Scrap that, all people that care about their power in general.

Also because of the amount of soul cinders you need to grind for at rank 6 (which is 4 weeks) will also yield about 5.4k soul ash. So even if you needed to craft a rank 6 for a new slot versus upgrading an existing slot to rank 6, you would have already gathered the required soul ash amount.

3. Is it safe to say you will get rank 5 legendary before you get 5th domination gem?

Very dependent on how "lucky" you would need to be in raids. Remember, you can get 1 domination socket armor from the new rep vendor at Honored for 2k stygia. So you only need to get 2~4 sockets from the raid. Additionally, at least one of the shards drops from the new world boss.

Also depends on weekly vault. It's entirely possible that you could get "lucky" and get a piece via vault on the week LFR/Mythic opens.

[Big Thanks]

Im just malding over the -80% Soul Ash on subsequent Torghast runs...
Blizzard: You can farm soul ashe endlessly! Yayyyyy
disclaimer: at 80% reduced speed

Blizzard is so loving and caring
Now i just need to do 10 Torghast runs to make as much as i did on both the first runs <3 i love you blizzard <3

[Alroxas]

Or just LEAVE IT AS IT IS? And not spend anything because of stupid system?

You're still spending gold on buying the base legendary item for rank 5/rank 6. You still need X amount of Soul Cinders from Torghast and non-Torghast activities (if you wanted to be efficient).

The only real costs are soul ash and missives. And in reality soul ash is a non-factor because you gain enough soul ash while you're farming soul cinders from Torghast.

[Frolk]

Dude, keep the toxic garbage in your head and do not spread it to us.

How is this "toxic garbage"

The part where people need to recraft

Or that he is unhappy with it?

[Hey There Guys its Metro]

Because 1. you are not forced.
Do you have a full set of BIS gear in season 1?
If so, then you will expect to have to retool your gear in season 2.
and
2. what else are you going to do with your soul ash?

This is actually a good decision for the game. Its clear that the legendary system has some flaws, and them pushing players to craft even more legendaries when players haven't thought about them in months helps everyone, especially those doing the crafting of the white items.

You also do not have to worry about this immediately.
By the time you would have collected 3 domination slots and your bonus slot, you would have plenty of soul ash.

Don't forget, the changes to Torghast come this week, where as Mythic raid doesn't open for another 2 after it.