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  1. #21
    as always, Ion is a GREAT lawyer. from a companies perspective (i know what i am talking about) he does a great job, when it comes down to speech and marketing. from a customers/players point of view…. decide on your own.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Sorrowseer View Post
    Is chromie being a dude a new thing recently or?
    Not sure if it ever was truly confirmed previously that Chromie was female (by birth) but most people assumed it based on her humanoid form (female gnome) but the her full name "Chronormu" threw a lot of people off as it followed the naming pattern of a Male Bronze Dragon.

    Hence, the line in HotS, but now it's canon that she's a born male that later on chose a female mortal form / name.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Sorrowseer View Post
    Is chromie being a dude a new thing recently or?
    It's been around for quite awhile. Since Vanilla. We know how dragon naming works, but with Chromie apparently that's not how it works. At the end of the day it's a fictional dragon that's chosen the mortal guise of a female gnome. Not sure why people freak the fuck out over it for.
    "May the way of the Hero lead to the Triforce"

    "May the Goddess smile upon you."

    "Hero", is what they've all been saying. This world, it isn't worth the saving."

  4. #24
    The problems with Torghast were not easily picked up in the beta because players on the beta were there to simply check out Torghast and didn't have the specific goals in mind that come in a live environment.
    Ah, blaming your customers for your incompetency and delusions. Again!

    Players called out the egregious problems with the Azerite system months before BFA's release, and then Blizzard had the gall to do a surprised Pikachu face and say that the failure of the Azerite system was unexpected. And with Shadowlands, the playerbase and had been pointing out the egregious problems with Torghat months before release... and lo and behold, the problems weren't addressed and now Blizzard has the gall to say they didn't see it coming.

    Internal conversations revolve around how the team can reinforce and reintroduce the mechanisms that lead to the formation of new friendships and connections and rely on the importance of those.
    Blizzard: "we want people to connect with each other and to forge friendships."
    Also Blizzard: splits the playerbase with one way transfers (unless you pay extra to copy your character over).

    The team wanted to focus on the quality of this patch and made it to a top priority to release it with the quality players have come to expect from them, even with the few complications caused over the past year.



    It is purposeful that we have yet to see Nathanos in the Shadowlands, and a reference to this plotline will take place in one of the cutscenes that has yet to be seen.
    Who (not counting Danuser) actually wants to see anymore of the gary-stu that is Nathanos?


    Steve wanted to explore how a dragon chooses their humanoid form with the short story involving Chromie and what it would mean for a male dragon to choose a female form. It is meant to show that the world of Azeroth has love and acceptance and an opportunity for people to see themselves represented in this world.
    First of all, this is world of Warcraft, not world of peacecraft. Second, nobody comes to Warcraft wanting to know about the intriacices of dragon sexuality. People come to Warcraft to bash skulls in. The creative team have lost the plot.

  5. #25
    The team is always looking for feedback on current Mythic + affixes and which ones the community would like to see cycled out.
    LOL nice joke, Team! I guess they didn't get the memo that the community has been asking to get rid of Tyrannical for a long time now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorrowseer View Post
    Is chromie being a dude a new thing recently or?
    She always was a female gnome form with a male dragon name. So the possibility of having something more was always in the air.
    Quote Originally Posted by primalmatter View Post
    nazi is not the abbreviation of national socialism....
    When googling 4 letters is asking too much fact-checking.

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    I swear, if you look up the definition for "Disconnected" - ActiBlizz's logo will show up as an example.

    Like not all of these points are "lost" but... Yeah. I suppose if nothing else we will see Sylvanas again in 9.2?
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  9. #29
    It is meant to show that the world of Azeroth has love and acceptance and an opportunity for people to see themselves represented in this world.
    Is "representation" really that big of an issue when 95% of the humanoid races are entirely fucking fictional?

    Also, what is this BS about Azeroth being a place of "love and acceptance"? Last I checked, there's a new war every other year that completely uproots entire civilizations, and you're more worried about getting someone's pronouns right? No wonder people find you completely insufferable

  10. #30
    I can't wait to find out what's next for Mary Sue - Literally no one

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Skirdus View Post
    Also, what is this BS about Azeroth being a place of "love and acceptance"?
    Just because the setting is predicated on race wars between white feudal lords and savage hordes doesn't mean it can't be a place of love and acceptance.
    The absolute state of Warcraft lore in 2021:
    Kyrians: We need to keep chucking people into the Maw because it's our job.
    Also Kyrians: Why is the Maw growing stronger despite all our efforts?

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Fabled View Post
    It's been around for quite awhile. Since Vanilla. We know how dragon naming works, but with Chromie apparently that's not how it works. At the end of the day it's a fictional dragon that's chosen the mortal guise of a female gnome. Not sure why people freak the fuck out over it for.
    If its just that I would not bat an eyelid, shapeshifting into different races/sexes so what.

    Just hypervigilant over stuff being for the sake of it, but this seems pretty low key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kralljin View Post
    The funny thing about this whole Chromie thing is that there is a line in HotS where she explains that "Chronormu" isn't a male name but that mortals "clearly don't understand the intricacies of dragon culture".
    It could be like humans using gender neutral names maybe?

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by SirFinlot View Post
    "Ion looks forward to seeing the community discuss and dissect what is next for Sylvanas after the events in Chains of Domination."

    If you dissect a turd, it's still a turd.
    Yet there will be a 300 page discussion on it..lets face it negative publicity is still publicity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterymask View Post
    Yet there will be a 300 page discussion on it..lets face it negative publicity is still publicity
    The players are looking forward to dissecting Sylvanas after she fucking dies.

    Yes, I know she won't die for a long time. Sadly.

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Sorrowseer View Post
    If its just that I would not bat an eyelid, shapeshifting into different races/sexes so what.

    Just hypervigilant over stuff being for the sake of it, but this seems pretty low key.
    It was lowkey until they just had to write up a story about it, shouldn't be as big as a deal as it is.
    "May the way of the Hero lead to the Triforce"

    "May the Goddess smile upon you."

    "Hero", is what they've all been saying. This world, it isn't worth the saving."

  17. #37
    These people deserve to be out of a job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabled View Post
    It's been around for quite awhile. Since Vanilla. We know how dragon naming works, but with Chromie apparently that's not how it works. At the end of the day it's a fictional dragon that's chosen the mortal guise of a female gnome. Not sure why people freak the fuck out over it for.
    It strikes me as one of those things that someone a long time ago "messed up" from a strict lore perspective (that bronze dragons are named a certain way) but it was so minor they never really cared to address it. I don't for a second believe that they intended this all along.

    Essentially, it seems at the outset that they're dumbledore'ing chromie.


    And gender identity is a diverse topic but... if they wanted to make this a pro-trans thing, couldn't they, as the ultimate arbiters of what is possible in the warcraft universe, have simply... I dunno, allowed the actual dragon to transition from male to female, rather than making them put on what is essentially a disguise to do so?


    But as you said, not worth freaking out over. Just more a matter of "they probably could have done a less slap-dash job of doing this" kind of thing to me.
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  19. #39
    So surprising, Kerr, eh Sylvanas is not going anywhere.

  20. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    Of course Sylvanas won't die, the character is hot and thus sells videogames. Having such a character around is always valuable for marketing purposes.

    One thing is for certain, I don't want to hear any Sylvanas fanboy complaining ever again. The Night elves were literally exterminated just so that Sylvanas could have her redemption arc after 15 years of crimes and atrocities, so eat your redemption arc and be quiet
    Not surprised in the least if they go the shitty writing "oh she's redeemed!" route to be honest. She only did many morally reprehensible things, why should she be held accountable when at the last second she can have a "come to Jesus" moment and all is forgiven.

    As a Night Elf player, I can say that might be the final nail in the coffin for WoW for me. I can forgive a lot, but not a clearly evil character who did absolutely nothing but evil no matter their "actual motivation" behind it. Sylvanas literally committed mass genocide, she doesn't just get to walk away from that with an "All is forgiven" and handshake.

    All those souls she condemned to hell will never get a 2nd chance so why should she get a, what are we up to, 5th chance now? She is irredeemable.

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