9.1 is a very great patch

[Zantera]

Starting to like Korthia more and more. The zone and especially the music makes me chill. Logging in, doing the dailies, the assaults when they are up and just generally feel good while being there. It doesn't take forever, and have a decent amount of rares and small events.

Even the Maw is here for a reason now. And we have a mega dungeon and raid coming, and flying. It's nice.

Just quoting to say I agree with pretty much all of this and it's nice to see someone who is actually positive and wrote a good post and not perpetuating the sheep mentality of "everything is garbage".

[Lolites]

9.1 would have been great content if it was included in the launch experience or arrived within 3 months tops.

you cant be serious...
in Legion we get new raid in 4.5months after release, with megdungeon some time before, no new zone just few new quests, that was it, so LESS content than 9.1 have in 4.5 and developers said that was way too fast content release, andyou say you want more content in WAY LESS TIME or its too little too late...

you need reality check dude, 9.1 in 5-6 months would be absolutely in line with previous release schedules (as they were already all over the place), so the month or two tops delay is completely fine due to circumstances (by coincidence, is by how much final fantasy had patch delayed due to covid)

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"Oh your country was invaded by a different country? Just focus on something else, man. It's their country now."

comparing game to real life war...
damn you are so far out of reality you cant even see it with telescope...

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You can't really go by that. MoP had 2 content patches in the same time frame for example. Shadowlands has had 1.

and those two MOP patches added quest lines, scenarios and single raid, so actualy about the same amount of content than the single one in SL...

[Exkrementor]

2. there was no pandemic in wod and bfa, true, and there was also no time delay... nobody use pandemic as excuse for QUALITY of content (which is average, "not great not horrible", same as in bfa) but for TIME DELAY, which is fair point that anyone who ever done any planning for work projects including more people than himself would know

No time delay, huh? The BFA beta started and they didnt change anything for like 6 months and then they said its too late to change anything.

In WoD they delayed Blackrock Foundry which was supposed to be the 2nd half of the first raidtier and then just made the 2nd raidtier out of it and skipped an entire tier of content. Then they brought Hellfire Citadel which lasted 15 months until Legion came out.

The pandemic changed nothing about Blizzards lazyness, its just an excuse.

[carlos9949]

No, its not.

[Lolites]

No time delay, huh? The BFA beta started and they didnt change anything for like 6 months and then they said its too late to change anything.

In WoD they delayed Blackrock Foundry which was supposed to be the 2nd half of the first raidtier and then just made the 2nd raidtier out of it and skipped an entire tier of content. Then they brought Hellfire Citadel which lasted 15 months until Legion came out.

The pandemic changed nothing about Blizzards lazyness, its just an excuse.

beta was behind, ok, still no content was delayed...
issue with WOD was SCRATCHED content, content that was not released at all not released later (a.k.a. delayed), due to personal changes, you might consider it the same but its a bit different...

i mean sure, they are lazy, but its not like that started with wod, remember things like call of crusade patch? tiny raid, tiny dung IN THE SAME ROOM, few dailies and thats it? anyhow, that have nothing to do with delays...

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

Warcraft's main problem is that it doesn't meet 2021 standards, it was cool in 2013-2018, but not in 2021.

1. cinematics
-360p teeth
-no shadows
-different polygonality of parts




2. in-game cinematic
-1998 graphics
-toad mouths (no sync)
-ugly models



3. lore

enough

this post is more exaggerated than pornography

[KOUNTERPARTS]

Right? Like how dare they do what the dozens of people (including you apparently) with permanent hateboners do?

I haven’t hated the patch; only supported it, oddly enough.

[Ivarr]

That is something the Blizzard management could predict and control, apparently they consider it acceptable as their quarterly stats were boosted by the TBC launch last quarter

But will they take the hint?

[Nyel]

For a .1 patch it's decent, but it's basically this expansion's .2 patch so it's very underwhelming. Just wait and see what they have in store for 9.2 then which will wrap up Shadowlands. I expect 8.3 second round, but we'll see if they can lower the bar.

[muto]

Sooo...

For 3 MoP patches:

5.1:
- Brawler guild
- New scenarios

5.2:
- New raid
- New zone

5.3:
- New BG, new arena
- New scenarios.

All 3 first MoP patches still on par with 9.1 if we trade new BG+Arena for new Megadungeon.

Sorry not even close. You’ll run the mega dungeon once just to see it, and then wait until next patch when you can run it as keys. Also new arena + bg, and brawlers guild > mega dungeon. Throne of Thunder > Korthia.

Also Throne of Thunder was one of the greatest raids of all time. I’ll wait until I see Sanctum of Domination Mythic Race to see how good it is, or bad.

[Bakis]

I dont like Shadowlands and I wrote alot of why I think it falls short in the other threads.
Time to write some positives. I thought it was really fun to level although I wished it was more than just 2 zones required of them all.
Leveling wise I would however label Shadowlands a success and that include the storyline.
The dungeons were great fun as well.

[bryroo]

I look forward to the only logical conclusion of this forum pissing contest;

9.1 is a Patch

[kail]

I don't get it, I honestly don't.
So it took more time to release this patch. What's the problem though? You bought the expansion, tried out everything it has to offer. You're done with it? Unsub. Surely you people have different things to do in life, or so I hope. You think new patch is not good enough? Play for a month, unsub. It's theirs problem if you don't stay subbed. But why act entitled to anything at all? It's a different company now, handles a lot more games. If they decide WoW is not as important as it once was, so be it. Check out how much content is being poured out in mmos younger than WoW, like Rift, Wildstar or whatever. Be happy WoW is not one of them. Or don't! And just move forward if you don't enjoy the current formula. You make it seem like the most obvious things in life are some kind of arcane knowledge. It's not your game, you're not entitled to anything. Accept it and embrace it, and all your problems are instantly gone.

You could apply this mentality to any feedback or criticism towards any game.

[Relapses]

You could apply this mentality to any feedback or criticism towards any game.

The criticism or 9.1 seems to have reached such a fever pitch that there isn't even room for middle ground opinions. You either agree that the patch sucks dick or you're retarded. Why should anybody ever be inclined to engage in a discussion with somebody who simply wants validation of their negative opinion rather than talk about ways to improve the game?

[MiiiMiii]

People were complaining the patch took too long and now before even the raid is out and it's been 5 days, people call it a dead patch, and the meta is to "go to FF14". The hivemind I see lately is so strong. "Everyone" band together and reach the same conclusion and complain about the same issue.

It's like "ok the patch is out what's the next thing we will reply on every single Tweet the WoW channel posts?"

When did it become like this?

[Shedaar]

Global Pandemic.

This stopped being an excuse months ago
@OP
I disagree, 9.1 is shaping up to be not worth 200+ days of working on this pathetic scramble of pseudo content

[arkanon]

People were complaining the patch took too long and now before even the raid is out and it's been 5 days, people call it a dead patch, and the meta is to "go to FF14". The hivemind I see lately is so strong. "Everyone" band together and reach the same conclusion and complain about the same issue.

It's like "ok the patch is out what's the next thing we will reply on every single Tweet the WoW channel posts?"

When did it become like this?

You are assuming this is some community phenomenon, but could it possibly be that people are genuinely unhappy with the game direction at the moment, and that is why it feels like a hate-train? Are some just jumping on the bandwagon? Almost definitely, but that is always the case. I dont believe anything has changed from a community perspective, I dont believe the "influencers" have anything to do with it, and I honestly think its quite simple - For a lot of players, SL just is not a good expansion, and they do not like it.

There are extremes on both sides - the ones who hate everything wow related, and the ones who will defend everything wow related with their life. Those two camps have always existed. I believe what we are seeing now is the core - the middle ground - many of them are starting to lean towards the "this just isnt good" side of things. This community, and this website in particular, are fantastic at arguing from extremes - legion is the best expansion of all time, wod was a disaster and literally zero people liked it, and if you dont agree, you are wrong. This is not that crowd speaking up, this is the average joe blogs who has played for X years and is finally speaking up and saying "yeah, i just dont like it". Its a shame to lump them all into the same group as the extremist anti Blizzard militia.

[BeerEelemental]

Blizzard knows about and reads this site. Shocking, I know.

Lol, no.
Maybe 10 years ago when this site was still big. Now? not so much anymore, mmo-champ went out like a spent candle.

[arkanon]

This stopped being an excuse months ago
@OP
I disagree, 9.1 is shaping up to be not worth 200+ days of working on this pathetic scramble of pseudo content

Funny thing is, some (not all) of the ones using it as an excuse for this long drought were the same ones saying SL would not be delayed, because remember when Blizzard said SL would not be delayed because they had adjusted to WFH really well and it had little impact on them? I might try and find the thread and line some names up, because it was honestly funny to watch.

"Blizzard are a well oiled machine, SL will be out before the end of the year, heres a quote from Blizzard saying WFH has not impacted them much at all"

- Same person now -

"The content drought was entirely out of Blizzard's control, did you not notice the global pandemic???"

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Lol, no.
Maybe 10 years ago when this site was still big. Now? not so much anymore, mmo-champ went out like a spent candle.

Yeah I tried to explain this to someone earlier in the thread, and they got overly defensive - its just a fact, and the data can be seen by anyone who can work google - in the last 6 months alone it has HALVED its views, and even the figure from 6 months ago is a tiny fraction of the traffic from 10 years ago. Back then it absolutely was a main hub for the community, but for reasons we all know but cant go into here, it has become a tiny little niche group of people desperately seeking an echo chamber.

As someone else mentioned, why on earth would Blizzard care about this place? They have FAR better open channels to communicate with their community, including their OWN forum which has substantially more traffic, Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, youtube, etc etc.

[Segus1992]

I think their WoW community department is more busy reading the official forums, official subreddit, official twitter, official discord, their official facebook, and their official instagram.

You can't be very intelligent if you think Blizzard isn't aware of MMO-C.