Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[solinari6]

How would Point 1 actually, you know, work? And how would it lead to Point Two?

They're suggesting a massive turnover in the House, but even if a bunch of Democrat Reps were removed or died, they don't get replaced by their opponent or a Republican automatically. Also the Senate, for Point Seven.

What they are saying is that as soon as Nancy is exposed as a witch, the congressional black caucus will switch from dems to republicans. then they will revote for control of the house, and repubs will win.

[Breccia]

What they are saying is that as soon as Nancy is exposed as a witch, the congressional black caucus will switch from dems to republicans. then they will revote for control of the house, and repubs will win.

The card says "days, not years" so I didn't think that's what it meant. Granted that reasoning is also ludircrous, but doesn't fit the time frame.

[solinari6]

The card says "days, not years" so I didn't think that's what it meant. Granted that reasoning is also ludircrous, but doesn't fit the time frame.

What do you mean? I'm not sure what it is in that plan that would take years. I think the only question is, can the minority party force a re-vote for control of the house? Or could Nancy veto that.

[Breccia]

What do you mean? I'm not sure what it is in that plan that would take years.

Yeah I misread that response. So it's still stupid, but physically possible.

Speaking of voting, Gov. Hey Abbott decries drive-through voting on the grounds that passengers could influence the driver.

Um...don't take passengers you disagree with?

[masterhorus8]

Yeah I misread that response. So it's still stupid, but physically possible.

Speaking of voting, Gov. Hey Abbott decries drive-through voting on the grounds that passengers could influence the driver.

Um...don't take passengers you disagree with?

Yeah, it's no different than filling out a mail in ballot at the kitchen table.

[bladeXcrasher]

Yeah I misread that response. So it's still stupid, but physically possible.

Speaking of voting, Gov. Hey Abbott decries drive-through voting on the grounds that passengers could influence the driver.

Um...don't take passengers you disagree with?

Since my Gov is wheelchair bound, does that mean he should be able to vote.

[Elegiac]

Yeah I misread that response. So it's still stupid, but physically possible.

Speaking of voting, Gov. Hey Abbott decries drive-through voting on the grounds that passengers could influence the driver.

Um...don't take passengers you disagree with?

Yeah we wouldn't want passengers influencing voters. That job is for Texas' poll watchers.

[Belize]

[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/V5BBu12.jpg[G]

https://www.businessinsider.com/cpac...esident-2021-7

Flawless plan, not a single thing could go wrong

[Ursus]

What they are saying is that as soon as Nancy is exposed as a witch, the congressional black caucus will switch from dems to republicans. then they will revote for control of the house, and repubs will win.

And just to be clear, they don't mean expose Nancy as a witch as in expose her as a terrible person. They mean expose her as a literal fucking witch. That's how far down the rabbit hole these people are.

- - - Updated - - -

Yeah I misread that response. So it's still stupid, but physically possible.

Speaking of voting, Gov. Hey Abbott decries drive-through voting on the grounds that passengers could influence the driver.

Um...don't take passengers you disagree with?

I'm on board with his reasoning. But that also means that everyone must self-quarantine for 2 weeks before voting. And by self-quarantine, I don't just mean staying away from others physically. I mean no television, no phone, no internet, no books, no newspapers, absolutely nothing that could potentially influence the way someone votes.

Basically we just need to find a way to put everyone into a state of hibernation in mid-October. Greg Abbott has deemed it so.

[Zan15]

The irony to that is the MyDildo guy Mike Lindell and Q-twats have decided August 13th will be when Trump is reinstated.

What else is August 13th you might ask? It's the second Friday in August.

OMG that is classic....

[Levelfive]

I should probably start a new thread titled Quelle Surprise but I am putting this here because it's the animating force of the Republican party's full on, openly authoritarian movement <astronaut meme here>, of which Trump is the current cult leader.


Advisor To Major Pro-Trump Group Runs Racist Newsletter
Turning Point USA advisor Rip McIntosh remains unapologetic about the anti-Black screeds he has published.
By Nick R. Martin | July 12, 2021 7:02 a.m.

This article was co-published with The Informant, which covers hate and extremism in the U.S.

"It was an email so racist it might make a ku klux klansman blush.

An advisor for the influential conservative youth organization Turning Point USA recently published an essay for subscribers of his personal newsletter that, among other things, said Black people have 'become socially incompatible with other races' and 'American Black culture has evolved into an un-fixable and crime-ridden mess.'"

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/featur...ist-newsletter

The whole thing is obviously appalling, but somehow it still fascinates me that supporters of a revanchist domestic terror crime syndicate can complain un self-consciously about "crime." Which brings me back to this, again, in its entirety this time:

"There is no such thing as liberalism — or progressivism, etc.

There is only conservatism. No other political philosophy actually exists; by the political analogue of Gresham’s Law, conservatism has driven every other idea out of circulation.

There might be, and should be, anti-conservatism; but it does not yet exist. What would it be? In order to answer that question, it is necessary and sufficient to characterize conservatism. Fortunately, this can be done very concisely.

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit:

There must be in-groups whom the law protectes but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

There is nothing more or else to it, and there never has been, in any place or time.

For millenia, conservatism had no name, because no other model of polity had ever been proposed. “The king can do no wrong.” In practice, this immunity was always extended to the king’s friends, however fungible a group they might have been. Today, we still have the king’s friends even where there is no king (dictator, etc.). Another way to look at this is that the king is a faction, rather than an individual.

As the core proposition of conservatism is indefensible if stated baldly, it has always been surrounded by an elaborate backwash of pseudophilosophy, amounting over time to millions of pages. All such is axiomatically dishonest and undeserving of serious scrutiny. Today, the accelerating de-education of humanity has reached a point where the market for pseudophilosophy is vanishing; it is, as The Kids Say These Days, tl;dr . All that is left is the core proposition itself — backed up, no longer by misdirection and sophistry, but by violence.

So this tells us what anti-conservatism must be: the proposition that the law cannot protect anyone unless it binds everyone, and cannot bind anyone unless it protects everyone.

Then the appearance arises that the task is to map “liberalism”, or “progressivism”, or “socialism”, or whateverthefuckkindofstupidnoise-ism, onto the core proposition of anti-conservatism.

No, it a’n’t. The task is to throw all those things on the exact same burn pile as the collected works of all the apologists for conservatism, and start fresh. The core proposition of anti-conservatism requires no supplementation and no exegesis. It is as sufficient as it is necessary. What you see is what you get:

The law cannot protect anyone unless it binds everyone; and it cannot bind anyone unless it protects everyone." --Frank Wilhoit

https://crookedtimber.org/2018/03/21...comment-729288

[Breccia]

Once again, it's time for Guess the Speaker!

Voting system companies have denied the various allegations made by President Trump and his counsel regarding the 2020 election

"That looks like a legal disclaimer by someone who doesn't want to get sued, but still wants to show what Trump said."

FOX News, who splashed it over Trump's CPAC speech, wanna see the video?

"I thought FOX News had already been sued."

They have. Unlike, say, recent events with Donnie Dum-Dum Jr, FOX News is not a slow learner and doesn't want to get hit twice. Incidentally, they've hidden behind "even when Trump lies, his words are still news" and I think they'll probably succeed.

[Elegiac]

Once again, it's time for Guess the Speaker!



"That looks like a legal disclaimer by someone who doesn't want to get sued, but still wants to show what Trump said."

FOX News, who splashed it over Trump's CPAC speech, wanna see the video?

"I thought FOX News had already been sued."

They have. Unlike, say, recent events with Donnie Dum-Dum Jr, FOX News is not a slow learner and doesn't want to get hit twice. Incidentally, they've hidden behind "even when Trump lies, his words are still news" and I think they'll probably succeed.

Let's hope Dominion's lawyers go after CPAC next, lol.

[Edge-]

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...ys/7934063002/

Judge asks Trump attorneys in Michigan, including Lin Wood who apparently didn't know his name was even on the lawsuit (kek), if they like...checked any of the claims of massive fraud before bringing them to the court. You know, because as a lawyer you need to do some due diligence on behalf of your client before bringing their claims of fact in front of the court. You can't just make shit up while asking the court to disenfranchise millions of voters.

- - - Updated - - -

https://twitter.com/AnthonySabatini/...04737240272898

High-ranking communist officials in Cuba should be given an ultimatum now:
Either immediately assist in the transition of government away from communism or be prosecuted and executed thereafter
#SOSCuba

What's going on in Republican world? Not much, just calling for the casual assassination of foreign leaders. And apparently at least Rep. Sabatini (I wince that he appears to have an Italian last name) is hungry for another foreign war. Are we gonna spend the next 20+ years occupying Cuba and fighting locals who don't want us there, and destroying the nations infrastructure and massacring civilians in the process, while achieving absolutely nothing of value to the US?

[Huehuecoyotl]

What's going on in Republican world? Not much, just calling for the casual assassination of foreign leaders. And apparently at least Rep. Sabatini (I wince that he appears to have an Italian last name) is hungry for another foreign war. Are we gonna spend the next 20+ years occupying Cuba and fighting locals who don't want us there, and destroying the nations infrastructure and massacring civilians in the process, while achieving absolutely nothing of value to the US?

Sounds like a price worth paying if it lets certain people denounce communism by pointing at a country that's been devastated by US attack, doesn't it?

"See, that's what socialism gets you. Your buildings just explode, for no reason. And your economy collapses. That's why we can't have socialist healthcare".

[Poopymonster]

Sounds like a price worth paying if it lets certain people denounce communism by pointing at a country that's been devastated by US attack, doesn't it?

"See, that's what socialism gets you. Your buildings just explode, for no reason. And your economy collapses. That's why we can't have socialist healthcare".

We liberated you from the communists.
But our roads, our homes, everything, you blew it the fuck up!
Hush or I'll liberate the SHIT out of you.

[Edge-]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1882735.html

Colorado Republican Rep Lauren Boebert bombastically told the US federal government during the CPAC conference to “leave us the hell alone”.

“We’re here to tell the government: ‘we don’t want your benefits, we don’t want your welfare’,” she said on Saturday night. “Don’t come knocking on my door with your Fauci ouchie – you leave us the hell alone.”

But the four counties in Colorado with the highest unemployment rate in the state are all in Ms Boebert’s district, meaning many of her constituents are reliant on government support. The statewide unemployment rate in Colorado was 6.2 per cent in May of this, according to the most recent Federal Reserve Economic Data.

Out of the state’s 64 counties, four have an unemployment rate of eight per cent or higher: San Miguel (11.4 per cent), Pitkin (8.5), Pueblo (8), and Huerfano (8) – all located in the 3rd Congressional District.

The district covers around half of Colorado’s land mass and is home to just over 755,000 people, according to census data from 2019.

Man, one day Republican voters will realize that the leopards they vote for are indeed eating their faces. Until then, enjoy your suffering because the people you (the royal you) elect voluntarily not only aren't working for you, but are actively working against your interests.

- - - Updated - - -

Yo, want some spicey drama? Well good news!

https://twitter.com/JennaEllisEsq/st...05969929035776

Here's Jenna Ellis, from "The Kraken" legal team, verifying reporting that the RNC chief councel sent a note around last year trashing the Big Lie bullshit, and that it caused a tipsy Rudy Giuliani to drunk-dial him to yell at him, and then drunk-dial Ronna Romney-McDaniel (I'm choosing to include her family name in this even if she's ashamed of it) and demand that the lawyer be fired.

McDaniel, obviously, has denied this.

https://twitter.com/JennaEllisEsq/st...19750658904064

And blocked Jenna Ellis on Twitter because of course she did.

https://twitter.com/JennaEllisEsq/st...51093515800582



And verified this tidbit, though given that she's an outside lawyer and was not working with the DoJ take this with a pinch of salt. Though it seems she's going after Barr on this, but whatever.

I love it when the lying retards attack each other.

[Edge-]

@Edge- the Ellis stuff is funny in light of today’s hearing in Michigan.

I'm thoroughly enjoying reading the judge eviscerate the Kraken team.

[Elegiac]

Yo, want some spicey drama? Well good news!

https://twitter.com/JennaEllisEsq/st...05969929035776

Here's Jenna Ellis, from "The Kraken" legal team, verifying reporting that the RNC chief councel sent a note around last year trashing the Big Lie bullshit, and that it caused a tipsy Rudy Giuliani to drunk-dial him to yell at him, and then drunk-dial Ronna Romney-McDaniel (I'm choosing to include her family name in this even if she's ashamed of it) and demand that the lawyer be fired.

You ever wonder if the ABA is super annoyed at how these two are dragging their profession through the mud? Lol.

I'm honestly surprised they haven't been disbarred more generally or declared vexatious litigants.

[Edge-]

You ever wonder if the ABA is super annoyed at how these two are dragging their profession through the mud? Lol.

If the ABA or AMA want to address the issues with licensing absolute nutters to practice their professions without any mechanisms allowing for reviews and removals of those licenses, they're absolutely welcome to.

Until then, I won't feel bad for either one of them.