[Spoilers] Sylvanas becomes...

[DeltrusDisc]

as we long, long ago speculated in the 8.3 speculation thread

So, who else thinks Sylvanas is going to die?
I'VE GOT POPCORN

It's sad that I honestly don't care anymore. I want to care, but this has all just been so humorous and slow moving, I just want to move on to something more interesting than big bad man we've never heard of before wants to subjugate.

[Sanguinerd]

You can’t be serious they’ll pull an Illidan/Bolvar with her, as in once we defeat the Jailer she’ll take his place and be put on ice as jailer of the dead.

I am serious that she deserves it but I'm not really expecting that will happen.

[Eapoe]

undead =/= mortal my guy

mortal requires you to you know... be alive.

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have you seen the cinematic yet?
She fires an arrow at the Jailer and he retaliates by making her a living being again

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that's basically kerrigan 2.0 at this point. you know, being a baddy and then sacrificing everything that went towards your character progression to become some god that's never seen again?

Mortal just require you to be able to die, in some form. Therefore, Sylvanas is mortal. She may be ageless, but she can still be killed and subjected to death.
Truly immortal would be someone like the Mummy from the Brendan Fraser movie where they had to cast a spell to make him mortal, or Ban from Seven Deadly Sins who was giving immortality from the tree and to which can’t be killed.

[gcsmith]

Mortal just require you to be able to die, in some form. Therefore, Sylvanas is mortal. She may be ageless, but she can still be killed and subjected to death.
Truly immortal would be someone like the Mummy from the Brendan Fraser movie where they had to cast a spell to make him mortal, or Ban from Seven Deadly Sins who was giving immortality from the tree and to which can’t be killed.

Technically immortal often means cant die from old age but can still be killed. Like NEs were.

[plz delete account]

Mortal just require you to be able to die, in some form. Therefore, Sylvanas is mortal. She may be ageless, but she can still be killed and subjected to death.
Truly immortal would be someone like the Mummy from the Brendan Fraser movie where they had to cast a spell to make him mortal, or Ban from Seven Deadly Sins who was giving immortality from the tree and to which can’t be killed.

you're thinking invincibility where you cannot die. Mortals are living, breathing beings. Undead are not alive, and therefore are not mortal.

[Crimson Spears]

WoW's story line introduction for new players

[plz delete account]

WoW's story line introduction for new players

is that the lego video

[Raetary]

Mortal just require you to be able to die, in some form. Therefore, Sylvanas is mortal. She may be ageless, but she can still be killed and subjected to death.

Agelessness is literally what wows version of mortality is.

[plz delete account]

Mortal just require you to be able to die, in some form.

so literally everybody in wow

[Raetary]

have you seen the cinematic yet?
She fires an arrow at the Jailer and he retaliates by making her a living being again

What on earth makes you think she is alive again?

She's still undead, her soul just isn't torn to shreds anymore.
Literally the same thing that happened to Uther.

[Lochton]

that's basically kerrigan 2.0 at this point. you know, being a baddy and then sacrificing everything that went towards your character progression to become some god that's never seen again?

Eh, I'm more one less step than that. She redeems herself with her life, to never walk among the living or dead ever again.

[plz delete account]

What on earth makes you think she is alive again?

She's still undead, her soul just isn't torn to shreds anymore.
Literally the same thing that happened to Uther.

Pretty sure undead high elves don't have blue eyes

[NoiseTank13]

She's going to be the next Arbiter.

There must always be an Arbiter.

[Eapoe]

Technically immortal often means cant die from old age but can still be killed. Like NEs were.

So, since they are still subject to death they are then not immortal, correct?

[Eapoe]

No, not correct.

You're thinking Invincible. Creatures who are immortal can still die, technically, just not naturally.

noun
noun: invincibility
the quality of being too powerful to be defeated or overcome.
"he gave off an aura of invincibility"

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Just to add:

noun
noun: immortality
the ability to live forever; eternal life.
"eating the fruit gave the gods immortality"

If you can die, you are not immortal. As I posted earlier, the best 2 examples of true immortals are Ban from Seven Deadly Sins and Ihmotep from The Mummy. You can even add Dead Pool.
They are beings who can be injured, decapitated, rent limb from limb, drained of all blood, suffocated, etc, and they still can keep going and, so far with Deadpool, don’t age.

[Raetary]

Pretty sure undead high elves don't have blue eyes

They don't have red eyes either, that's specifically a dark ranger trait.

Hell, even the San'layn each had different colored eyes.

[3DTyrant]

She deserves to die so.. lets hope she does.

Not gonna lie, I was half hoping to see Bolvar caver her fucking head in with his hammer...

[StillMcfuu]

She's not "mortal" by your definition, technically she has always been immortal, but I understand what you are saying.
She's just had the retconned part of her soul returned. So basically she's been returned to the version of Sylvanas we see in the legion intro cinematic, before they made a fat samurai kid video with her story from legion onwards.

I could make a really long post about how much they've fucked up the forsaken lore, but let's just leave it at the Forsaken are "mortal" for the most part, but the details of that mortality changes a lot. They continue to decompose and that was a major part of the forsaken but they stopped exploring the upper limit of that decomposition a while back so we never got to see it fully play out.

Blood Elves are immortal technically due to the sunwell, but Blizz hasn't explored if being an undead elf means you've been cut off from that magik influenced immortality.

[gcsmith]

So, since they are still subject to death they are then not immortal, correct?

Immortal doesn't mean cannot die, it means cannot die from old age... Invincible means cannot be killed.

[Kokolums]

To me it is:

Mortal: Living, breathing creature that can die of old age.
Ghost: Spirit residing on the mortal plane.
Undead: Spirit that animates a dead carcass on the mortal plane.
Immortal: Living, breathing creature that cannot die of old age but can be killed.
God: Powerful being that cannot die of old age and cannot be killed by normal means. Might be able to killed by another god or some entity that has a power advantage over the god in some way.