Activision-Blizzard Sued By California

[Grimbold21]

See, he gets it. Thank you for supporting my argument.

You're welcome. You can also thank me for helping you perpetuating your toxic persona, "sweetheart "

[Orange Joe]

So, to be entirely clear: you're claiming that all of the testimony and allegations regarding Blizzard are made up, yes?



Congratulations on finally understanding how culture works.



Go argue with the dictionary, not me.

Definition of racism

1 : a belief that race is a fundamental determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

I don't see "systematic"

[Elegiac]

I don't see "systematic"

Sorry that your mouse wheel is broken, I guess?

[Orange Joe]

You need to keep up with the times. The definition has expanded to be systemic now. Only in that fashion can one group be perpetually victimized while another is villainized.

My apologies, I'll read some D'Angelo and get this under control.

updated to included. The original definition is still there and stands.

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Sorry that your mouse wheel is broken, I guess?

You just learning words can have more than 1 definition?

[downnola]

You need to keep up with the times. The definition has expanded to be systemic now. Only in that fashion can one group be perpetually victimized while another is villainized.

My apologies, I'll read some D'Angelo and get this under control.

Or maybe "treating someone differently" based on the group they belong to is just a simplified definition of racism that would just reduce it to a synonym for bigotry.

What do you suppose happens when a group is treated differently for a long period of time by another group? What does that look like?

[nocturnus]

I don't see "systematic"

There isn’t. He’s just one of those people that thinks you can’t be racist against white people. How can you consider yourself an intelligent human being, if you actually believe something that stupid? It’s up there with the flat-earthers.

[Grimbold21]

I really don't think I've seen a group of people make as much of a shibboleth of being ignorant of fairly basic levels of media criticism than gamers.

Y'all wanted everyone to acknowledge that video games are a legitimate art form, that comes with being criticised as other art forms are.

You're confused. The fact that you read snippets from a few works from the social studies sphere and decided that this must be how the world functions doesn't translate into your predispositions passing for tangible reality.

In short:

Elegiac: I read this. It sounds true to me
Other: Not really
Elegiac: You're all ignorant.

[Orange Joe]

There isn’t. He’s just one of those people that thinks you can’t be racist against white people. How can you consider yourself an intelligent human being, if you actually believe something that stupid? It’s up there with the flat-earthers.

I mean "there is" it's the second definition. It just doesn't erased the first.

[nocturnus]

Or maybe "treating someone differently" based on the group they belong to is just a simplified definition of racism that would just reduce it to a synonym for bigotry.

What do you suppose happens when a group is treated differently for a long period of time by another group? What does that look like?

Would you say that a person of color that hates white people is racist?

An ex girlfriend’s father HATED white people with a passion; they were dirty, smelly, didn’t shower, etc. Etc. Lucky for me, he didn’t consider me white, go figure. He made his son’s girlfriend cry at a family dinner, for being white.

Yeah, he was a fucking racist, no matter what the dimwitted snowflake says.

[Elegiac]

racism

noun

/ˈ/ (also racialism)

the belief that some races of men are better than others.

prejudice against someone on the grounds of his race.

Neither of which are components in what make whitewashing an issue; whitewashing is a problem because it exists within a system where minority entertainers already find it massively difficult to make inroads, ergo reducing the number of available roles is the issue. It is entirely a function of opportunity.

Color-blind casting would be fine if their opportunities were already equal.

[Darth Vowrawn]

So, to be entirely clear: you're claiming that all of the testimony and allegations regarding Blizzard are made up, yes?

No, no. I'm saying some of them sound blatantly retarded. In example, the ones where they whine about "sexist jokes and rape jokes", OH, DEAR, THE FUCKING HORROR! Now, some of the other ones, on the other hand, are creepy and gross. Like him walking around randomly rubbing women's shoulders (which is assault, mind you). There's also the matter of him being a total douche and insulting female staffers and using the "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?!", which is being a douchebag on a level only spoiled urbanites are capable of.

Congratulations on finally understanding how culture works.

Nothing about any of that is "wrong" or in need of change. Offense is taken, not given. Subjectivity is a thing.

Go argue with the dictionary, not me.

Bruh, we edited the dictionary to agree with our ideology! It's totally correct, bruh!

[Elegiac]

You're confused. The fact that you read snippets from a few works from the social studies sphere and decided that this must be how the world functions doesn't translate into your predispositions passing for tangible reality.

In short:

Elegiac: I read this. It sounds true to me
Other: Not really
Elegiac: You're all ignorant.

I see you're back to arguing about me rather than the subject.

Should get that checked, bruh. Obsession with a stranger is kind of unhealthy.

No, no. I'm saying some of them sound blatantly retarded. In example, the ones where they whine about "sexist jokes and rape jokes", OH, DEAR, THE FUCKING HORROR!

The way you don't see this makes you part of the problem.

[nocturnus]

Neither of which are components in what make whitewashing an issue; whitewashing is a problem because it exists within a system where minority entertainers already find it massively difficult to make inroads, ergo reducing the number of available roles is the issue. It is entirely a function of opportunity.

Color-blind casting would be fine if their opportunities were already equal.

A. Bullshit and B. We we’re discussing the definition of racism. Which you don’t seem to understand. I pasted it for you, it should be clear now.

[Grimbold21]

Y'all wanted everyone to acknowledge that video games are a legitimate art form, that comes with being criticised as other art forms are.

"Y'all" didn't want anything. If anything, "Y'all" wanted to be left alone playing their games.

Criticism is fine. Passing criticism as incontestable truths - I thought y'all enjoyed nuance - isn't.

[Elegiac]

A. Bullshit

That's nice, doesn't make it any less of a fact there is an opportunity gap.

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"Y'all" didn't want anything. If anything, "Y'all" wanted to be left alone playing their games.

Criticism is fine. Passing criticism as incontestable truths - I thought y'all enjoyed nuance - isn't.

"Nuance" is not the same thing as "pretending the media people consume isn't reflective of or formative on their worldviews", though I understand where you might get that confused.

[downnola]

Would you say that a person of color that hates white people is racist?

An ex girlfriend’s father HATED white people with a passion; they were dirty, smelly, didn’t shower, etc. Etc. Lucky for me, he didn’t consider me white, go figure. He made his son’s girlfriend cry at a family dinner, for being white.

Yeah, he was a fucking racist, no matter what the dimwitted snowflake says.

If I wanted to be precise, I'd describe him as a bigot. If I wanted to be lazy with language I'd call him racist. People would understand it, but it's still an overly reductive way to view the meaning of words.

[Darth Vowrawn]

The way you don't see this makes you part of the problem.

This entire sentence is why the Left is banning comedy. Comedy is meant to be edgy and break barriers. I've heard 9/11 jokes that I've laughed at, same with death jokes, rape jokes (of either sex), and so on. There is no "problem". The only people who think so, are the ones who make a Fascist dictatorship.

[Elegiac]

This entire sentence is why the Left is banning comedy. Comedy is meant to be edgy and break barriers.

You are not Mel Brooks.

[nocturnus]

That's nice, doesn't make it any less of a fact there is an opportunity gap.

You’re right. What should we do to have more white rappers, basketball players and r&b singers? The ethnical representation in said demographics clearly show a huge opportunity gap.

Great job on ignoring the corrections, by the way.

[Darth Vowrawn]

You are not Mel Brooks.

No, I'm just a normal human being who doesn't think turning our society into a Big Brother-based hellhole where everything we say is "curated" to be more "tolerant and inoffensive" is a good idea. If that means some weenies get their feelings hurt, well, toughen-up buttercup.