A Message from the World of Warcraft Team

[Timester]

The stench of sociopathy is strong in this thread...

[TheRevenantHero]

Well, it's my opinion that you are a petty little Fascist that just wants to be able to lord over those you deem to be lesser, and are ignorantly enabling those who want to turn our society into Nazi Germany, but with "intersectionality" instead.



Doesn't change the fact that that is what you are doing. Feelings don't care about facts. I was groped in the 9th grade by another student, doesn't mean I have a right to ruin her life, now does it?



If you shut people up for making a joke, you are evil. You are Goebbels reborn, end of story.



Well, too damn bad. Not everyone has to agree with you, and not all rape victims are as fragile as you are, to the point of wanting to play Big Brother.



Irrelevant.



Actually, I do. I don't get to choose whether something offends someone else, or not. It's on the person taking offense whether they judge it to be offensive or not. People are different, not everyone will be offended by the same thing.



Mentalities like mine are why we aren't living in a Socialist dictatorship right now, or one ran by a Monarchist tyrant without absolute authority, nor mob rule where a screechy group of children gets to determine what everyone not in the mob is "allowed" to do or say.

Mentalities like yours create police states and "social credit systems".

I'm not even going to bother addressing this entire post. Everything you said is incredibly toxic.

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Reading some of the responses people have in this thread is genuinely depressing, no wonder Blizzard have been having these issues. A lot of the responsible individuals share the same attitudes and lack of basic human empathy shown in this thread. Fucking revolting.

Lawsuits like this will pull sociopaths out of the woodwork. It doesn't matter to them that women are being treated like absolute dirt. Because if lawsuits like this win then that means more and more people will be held accountable for their actions and it terrifies them.

[Jamais]

The stench of sociopathy is strong in this thread...

This thread alone? This forum is full of people who use words like soyboy, betamale, manduin, sylvanus etc. to demean and humiliate other people and their opinions on a daily basis. People who were sending threats to developers if they nerfed their favorite trinket. A community where, in large part, woman wouldn't even dare to speak on vent/disc because there would always be at least two shmucks who would start behaving inappropriate. A community where there was outrage because of 1 queer dragon and 1 trans char in 15 years, under the pretense they were being ''shoved in our faces''.


The outrage from a big part of WoW community over this scandal is peak hypocrisy and has nothing to do with the care or empathy for abuse victims, it is only to further their personal anger over whatever the developers ''did'' to them.

[Darth Vowrawn]

I'm not even going to bother addressing this entire post. Everything you said is incredibly toxic.

Says the whiny little narcissist who wants to shut people up for upsetting your feelings.

Lawsuits like this will pull sociopaths out of the woodwork. It doesn't matter to them that women are being treated like absolute dirt.

There is no vast conspiracy against women. Most of this "treated like dirt" is whiny Twitter Feminists screeching about their boss telling them to get back to work. If they were men, they wouldn't have bleeding hearts crawling out of the mud to worship them for being "victims".

Because if lawsuits like this win then that means more and more people will be held accountable for their actions and it terrifies them.

By "held accountable" you mean censored and forced to only parrot opinions and topics YOU find inoffensive.

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This thread alone? This forum is full of people who use words like soyboy, betamale, manduin, sylvanus etc. to demean and humiliate other people and their opinions on a daily basis. People who were sending threats to developers if they nerfed their favorite trinket. A community where, in large part, woman wouldn't even dare to speak on vent/disc because there would always be at least two shmucks who would start behaving inappropriate. A community where there was outrage because of 1 queer dragon and 1 trans char in 15 years, under the pretense they were being ''shoved in our faces''.

Do you really believe that ALL women are that pathetic to be weak little snowflakes that can't take an insult/banter/joke? That's deeply patronizing.

The outrage from a big part of WoW community over this scandal is peak hypocrisy and has nothing to do with the care or empathy for abuse victims, it is only to further their personal anger over whatever the developers ''did'' to them.

Because it's not our fault that Afraisabi is a groper. Individuals are not responsible for the behavior of other people.

[Timester]

Says the whiny little narcissist who wants to shut people up for upsetting your feelings.

Get serious mental help.

[Darth Vowrawn]

Get serious mental help.

Not everyone who doesn't agree with you is "crazy". Maybe you need to just stop caring?

[TheRevenantHero]

Get serious mental help.

Don't even bother. Just throw them on ignore like I did. It's not worth the headache.

[Timester]

Not everyone who doesn't agree with you is "crazy". Maybe you need to just stop caring?

If you want to rationalize "sociopathy" as "opinion", good for you. Nethertheless, do get serious mental help.

[Darth Vowrawn]

If you want to rationalize "sociopathy" as "opinion", good for you. Nethertheless, do get serious mental help.

Or, maybe you need to learn not to be an armchair psychiatrist. Not everyone is a weakling that cares about the feelings of others. Being pathetic like that will only allow people, actual sociopaths rather than your imaginary ones, to manipulate you. Ones like Anita Sarkeesian.

[Timester]

Or, maybe you need to learn not to be an armchair psychiatrist. Not everyone is a weakling that cares about the feelings of others. Being pathetic like that will only allow people, actual sociopaths rather than your imaginary ones, to manipulate you. Ones like Anita Sarkeesian.

Good that you admit that you are a bonafide sociopath, it's the first step for mental healing.

[Th3Scourge]

What does any of this have to do with "Marginalised groups"?

The legal undertaking is specifically about sexual harassment. Last time I checked, this wasn't an issue specific to minority ethnic groups or sexualities. Enough with the fucking woke shit, root out the bad apples and fix your god damn game

[Marmot]

What does any of this have to do with "Marginalised groups"?

The legal undertaking is specifically about sexual harassment. Last time I checked, this wasn't an issue specific to minority ethnic groups or sexualities. Enough with the fucking woke shit, root out the bad apples and fix your god damn game

What exactly is woke about removing references to Alex Afrasiabi? I get being tired of seeing woke shit everywhere you look but this isn't that. They're removing references to an abusive individual. It's not taking away significant dev time. It's just changing some words in some quests and some NPC names.

[Beuargh]

all those "message to all employees" and "internal letters" are really not supposed to stay internal, AMARITE ??

this is damage control making more damage IMO, but I guess there is people ready to eat that shit like this dude is not just trying to save his ass.... just STFU, solve the problems and let the employees report about how good it is to work at blizzard now. that's the only opinions that matter on the issue, not what the head of the company want us to believe. talk is cheap for this dude ATM...

[Askyl]

You're not wrong for the most part but what Activision Blizzard's going through right now is on a much bigger scale that either of those cases.

Not really, maybe in the sense that the employees really stands up for them selves. But the actual problem is equal or the same. Riots were in exactly the same situation with a lawsuit from California about pretty much the same issues. Ubisoft was even a bigger scale since it truned out that over 20+ studios they own had this problem and it was a total shitshow.

[MoanaLisa]

What does any of this have to do with "Marginalised groups"?

The legal undertaking is specifically about sexual harassment. Last time I checked, this wasn't an issue specific to minority ethnic groups or sexualities. Enough with the fucking woke shit, root out the bad apples and fix your god damn game

You should read the legal document that started this. It's about a lot more than sexual harassment.

https://regmedia.co.uk/2021/07/22/ac..._complaint.pdf

[Stormxraven]

Bit like holding a cocktail umbrella up over your head to try to protect yourself from that bomb about to drop on your head.

[Trbn]

This comment just shows you have never had to worry about not having money to keep the power on. A lot of people stay at jobs despite abuse they're suffering because otherwise, they'd be in dire straits. You think people LIKE working places like Walmart? Or they enjoy working for companies where sexual harassment is swept under the rug? Oftentimes, they stay because there is no other choice.

if you are qualified enough to work in blizzard you are most likely qualified enough to work in any other smaller IT company and get better conditions and probably wage

[Darth Vowrawn]

Good that you admit that you are a bonafide sociopath, it's the first step for mental healing.

That's not being a "sociopath", that's being an adult. Adults control their emotions, and don't have crybaby meltdowns over being "offended", like toddlers.

[Th3Scourge]

What exactly is woke about removing references to Alex Afrasiabi? I get being tired of seeing woke shit everywhere you look but this isn't that. They're removing references to an abusive individual. It's not taking away significant dev time. It's just changing some words in some quests and some NPC names.

When did I mention that? Did you even read my post?

[TheRevenantHero]

if you are qualified enough to work in blizzard you are most likely qualified enough to work in any other smaller IT company and get better conditions and probably wage

Uh....what? Video game design has nothing to do with IT.