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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by Explosivo View Post
    holy shit you are reaching so hard. now convinced you are a troll. anyone replying to you after this is being baited. i'm sorry your life is so sad you have to troll people to get your daily social interaction
    you should try crafting counter arguments rather than writing off opposition that make points you have a tough time swallowing as trolls

  2. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by Saltysquidoon View Post
    Blizzcon is a blizzard employee's workplace.
    Feeling up a blizzard employee when you are a blizzard employee is a workplace issue regardless of venue in any case.
    Obviously I was talking about their photo posing, the alcohol and the chatting.

  3. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    I don't know about that. My current job has an awesome work enviroment and very friendly people but all they do is pointless meetings for the sake of holding meetings. We're burning money and the solution is more meetings.
    So the problem must be having an awesome work environment

  4. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by Zolaris192 View Post
    you should try crafting counter arguments rather than writing off opposition that make points you have a tough time swallowing as trolls
    in another post i already explained how equal rights doesn't equate to a trasnfer of ownership to the workers i.e. communism and you ignored it. then you up with some mental gymnastics about how if these people voted for bernie, they must be communists and therefore this is a communist takeover? like...what? you have a few marbles loose. clearly you're not all there

  5. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by Explosivo View Post
    in another post i already explained how equal rights doesn't equate to a trasnfer of ownership to the workers i.e. communism and you ignored it. then you up with some mental gymnastics about how if these people voted for bernie, they must be communists and therefore this is a communist takeover? like...what? you have a few marbles loose. clearly you're not all there
    who do you think they voted for?

  6. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by Zolaris192 View Post
    who do you think they voted for?
    you are failing at proving your point this is communism. i ask how it is communism, you say "who did they vote for"
    lol. goodbye troll

  7. #127
    Not to downplay this whole situation but if this is getting to you I cant imagine how you would feel if what happens on a daily basis in the US Armed Forces ever came to the light of day.

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    The end of forced arbitration for all employees.
    Worker participation in oversight of hiring and promotion policies.
    The need for greater pay transparency to ensure equality.
    Employee selection of a third party to audit HR and other company processes.

    SO you want some of the Decision making without the risk of a company? You want all the good and none of the bad? If you dont like what the company offers, quit and go somewhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moozart View Post
    Not to downplay this whole situation but if this is getting to you I cant imagine how you would feel if what happens on a daily basis in the US Armed Forces ever came to the light of day.
    I've held off mentioning this, because the typical 'military bad' people just ignore the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    What is this supposed to mean? Is it meant to justify anything or? Because bad shit happens we can't try to stop bad shit from happening?
    The distinction being to whom we want bad things to stop happening.
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  11. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by Zolaris192 View Post
    let me ask you

    who do you think the people that wrote this voted for? because i would bet my next year's salary it was bernie

    the same bernie that honeymooned in the USSR

    the same bernie that praises castro

    the same bernie that praises china's government (ironic this one)

    the same bernie that wrote in his 1972 essay, wherein he explains that in his view, women fantasize about being raped by multiple men

    the same socialist bernie

    the same communist bernie

    the same marxist bernie
    Voted for Bernie for what? Unless they happen to all be expats from Vermont, then it's most likely they didn't vote for Bernie for anything.

  12. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero View Post
    Yeah I don't believe you even for one moment. I've encountered people like you in the past. You'll lie and say you're a victim of something then say "I'm allowed to say these toxic things because it's happened to me so therefore I get a free pass." Nobody who has been through that trauma makes the kind of insensitive comments that you have been spewing all over the place. Maybe instead of doing everything you can to trivialize a serious case, you get some empathy or at the very least just not be so loud about your negative mindset.
    Seems insensitive for someone perpetually posting against someone for being insensitive. How do you know they were never assaulted? You have as much credibility in your claim as does the other poster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Explosivo View Post
    making this about politics, while ignoring the fact the right have cancelled plenty of things (hello Dixie chicks, Colin Kaepernick, etc), really signals how much of a tool you are. you are the poster child of what people expect gamers to be, and it's sad. you won't be getting another response from me because you seem like a lonely man prone to lashing out and i won't engage further. i feel bad for you, though
    Colin kaepernick got a private recruit me party from the nfl that other people never get. No one wants him cause he sucks. End of story. I do enjoy you trying to wrap his total lack of talent in the nfl as right wing cancel culture however.

  13. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by MasterOfNone View Post
    Seems insensitive for someone perpetually posting against someone for being insensitive. How do you know they were never assaulted? You have as much credibility in your claim as does the other poster.

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    Colin kaepernick got a private recruit me party from the nfl that other people never get. No one wants him cause he sucks. End of story. I do enjoy you trying to wrap his total lack of talent in the nfl as right wing cancel culture however.
    uh, at what point did i say he isn't employed because the right? people wanted him kicked out of the NFL DURING his contract (trying to cancel him), not even talking about him not getting a contract afterwards. i do like how you ignore the dixie chicks, remember that? or french fries becoming "freedom fries." besides, you aren't arguing the point- conservatives love cancel culture (when it suits them). want to debate that or you gonna pull out more strawman arguments? you're cute when you try to argue points beside the actual point made, but now that i am directly asking you to demonstrate how the right doesn't engage in cancel culture you'll vanish. it's cute
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    Quote Originally Posted by Locruid View Post
    The end of forced arbitration for all employees.
    Worker participation in oversight of hiring and promotion policies.
    The need for greater pay transparency to ensure equality.
    Employee selection of a third party to audit HR and other company processes.

    SO you want some of the Decision making without the risk of a company? You want all the good and none of the bad? If you dont like what the company offers, quit and go somewhere else.
    This is a lukewarm take at best, they do in fact carry the risk of the company because they are also the company. Not hard to comprehend.

  15. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by Aloie View Post
    This is a lukewarm take at best, they do in fact carry the risk of the company because they are also the company. Not hard to comprehend.
    yeah, my thought as well. clearly risks remain, like what are they even trying to say that there's no risk for the employees?

  16. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by Raelyn View Post
    Please spell check the fucking title of an article.
    It's stumbling across random comments like this one, that make me realize there are genuine people out there, that fit the absolute definition of what an "asshole" is, perfectly, in this world.

    I hope they calm down and explore themselves until the moment of epiphany when they understand that this was not worth the unnecessarily rude, poor choice of phrasing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Explosivo View Post
    yeah, my thought as well. clearly risks remain, like what are they even trying to say that there's no risk for the employees?
    Exactly, and then there is the fact that if the company did implode, the employees would face the greatest losses while the executives would walk out with hundreds of millions a pop. So their risk factor is way lower than an employees. The company is the company from the chairman all the way down to the janitor.

  18. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by MasterOfNone View Post
    Seems insensitive for someone perpetually posting against someone for being insensitive. How do you know they were never assaulted? You have as much credibility in your claim as does the other poster.

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    Colin kaepernick got a private recruit me party from the nfl that other people never get. No one wants him cause he sucks. End of story. I do enjoy you trying to wrap his total lack of talent in the nfl as right wing cancel culture however.
    Because based on all of their insensitive and dismissive comments in regards to this lawsuit, it's clear they are lying to try and create a shield. Kinda like how racists will say "I'm not racist! I have black friends!". They have posted several incredibly insensitive comments about the people that were sexually harassed at Blizzard. People who are victims of similar situations have compassion towards other potential victims. They don't write them off and defend the people that harassed/assaulted them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Locruid View Post
    The end of forced arbitration for all employees.
    Worker participation in oversight of hiring and promotion policies.
    The need for greater pay transparency to ensure equality.
    Employee selection of a third party to audit HR and other company processes.

    SO you want some of the Decision making without the risk of a company? You want all the good and none of the bad? If you dont like what the company offers, quit and go somewhere else.
    point by point

    • Forced arbitration is not entirely necessary. I suspect Blizzard pulls the trigger on it more than they need to making it part of their retaliatory culture. Lots of companies manage disputes without going into forced arbitration (which nearly always favors management).
    • I've worked in places where everyone on a team has a chance to speak with potential candidates for the team and a collective decision is made. It works well. In cases where a team decision is not feasible at least everyone gets heard.
    • Posting narrow ranges of pay for certain positions isn't new either. That precludes someone making 50% more than someone else doing the same work.
    • Since the employees don't trust management it's not a huge demand that they have a say in who is going to vet management on their behalf. It is on their behalf after all.

    There's no need to lock into a "If you don't like then quit" stance. That's frankly dumb, unprofessional, and in a consensus environment like Blizzard's unworkable. The path to diversity isn't instant and contrary to what people are saying it doesn't necessarily involve quotas. It's about expanding opportunity for interns, recruiting in places where you may not be recruiting now, being careful about a culture in which I suspect a lot of people get their opportunities because they know someone. Since the someone's to know are primarily white men then you end up where they are.
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  20. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by Explosivo View Post
    uh, at what point did i say he isn't employed because the right? people wanted him kicked out of the NFL DURING his contract (trying to cancel him), not even talking about him not getting a contract afterwards. i do like how you ignore the dixie chicks, remember that? or french fries becoming "freedom fries." besides, you aren't arguing the point- conservatives love cancel culture (when it suits them). want to debate that or you gonna pull out more strawman arguments? you're cute when you try to argue points beside the actual point made, but now that i am directly asking you to demonstrate how the right doesn't engage in cancel culture you'll vanish. it's cute
    I’m specifically referring to your Colin reference. It’s wrong. I don’t give two shits about the Dixie chicks. You are using Colin to preach a narrative, and you are wrong. I don’t believe that either side is without blame (unlike you clearly). You however have some axe to grind on an example that is wrong. It’s as simple as that. I can’t dumb it down any more that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero View Post
    Because based on all of their insensitive and dismissive comments in regards to this lawsuit, it's clear they are lying to try and create a shield. Kinda like how racists will say "I'm not racist! I have black friends!". They have posted several incredibly insensitive comments about the people that were sexually harassed at Blizzard. People who are victims of similar situations have compassion towards other potential victims. They don't write them off and defend the people that harassed/assaulted them.
    So because a person disagrees with you, and doesn’t clearly react to the same situation as you means that their experience wasn’t real or credible. Slippery slope of hypocrisy this judgement.

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