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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Herrington’s study concluded that society has about another decade to change courses and avoid collapse, by investing in sustainable technologies and equitable human development.
    That's not what the study concluded.

    It saw that based on the scenarios in the study the two that matched best was that we have already changed course with exceptionally high technological development and adoption will stabilize or that we would collapse in 2040.

    It's just that such a statement wouldn't attract as much attention.
    (That the study cannot tell such radically different outcomes apart hints at a problem, and selecting proxies after the fact is also methodologically problematic - in the 1970/1980s one might have thought of using CFC as a proxy for pollution; but that is no longer an issue.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    Sustainable technologies exists already but they are not "profitable"
    Installed wind power has gone from 50TWh to 1,400 TWh per year in this century.
    Solar power generation has gone from even less to >800TWh per year during the same time (might already be 1,000 TWh this year - it's growing exponentially).

    Seems fairly profitable. Obviously more is needed - including other industries but that is worked on, and nimbyism is an issue.

  2. #42
    Lets add to the issue; U.S. Population Growth, an Economic Driver, Grinds to a Halt

    Covid-19 pandemic compounds years of birth-rate decline, puts America’s demographic health at risk.

    America’s weak population growth, already held back by a decadelong fertility slump, is dropping closer to zero because of the Covid-19 pandemic.

    In half of all states last year, more people died than were born, up from five states in 2019. Early estimates show the total U.S. population grew 0.35% for the year ended July 1, 2020, the lowest ever documented, and growth is expected to remain near flat this year.


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    Really puts those red states and the rising pandemic death tolls there in perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Lets add to the issue; U.S. Population Growth, an Economic Driver, Grinds to a Halt

    Covid-19 pandemic compounds years of birth-rate decline, puts America’s demographic health at risk.

    America’s weak population growth, already held back by a decadelong fertility slump, is dropping closer to zero because of the Covid-19 pandemic.

    In half of all states last year, more people died than were born, up from five states in 2019. Early estimates show the total U.S. population grew 0.35% for the year ended July 1, 2020, the lowest ever documented, and growth is expected to remain near flat this year.


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    Really puts those red states and the rising pandemic death tolls there in perspective.
    Yeah great article, that's a big problem in general, even if Covid never happened. I try to bring up incentives to increase the population but then opponents just start talking about overpopulation even though there is no such thing.

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