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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    News flash: barbarian culture led by a "WARCHIEF" is more prone to committing mass murder than cultures that do not. More news at 11.

    On a serious note, I think the Alliance is actually more capable of producing weapons of mass destruction than the Horde. The Alliance has the industry and infrastructure to build airships to perform firebombings of Horde cities, produce spaceships that can nuke continents from orbit, mass produce gas and bio weapons, and so on. Only reason the Alliance doesn't is because they have humanitarian values, unlike the Horde.
    The stone masons and westfall send their regards
    An'u belore delen'na

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    Most spotlight goes to humans, there isn't even a sliver of competition.

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    Blame the root problem, humans
    the root issue is that blizzard has made the game revolve around the horde in lore and everything its nothing new.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Thundering View Post
    the root issue is that blizzard has made the game revolve around the horde in lore and everything its nothing new.
    It resolves mostly around humans, the amount of humans you have to interact with in comparison to any other race is off the scale.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Ehrenpanzer View Post
    The Alliance are girded with the unbreakable weapon of plot armor. They would have been wiped out multiple times in BFA if it wasnt for multiple Jaina Ex Machina, Anduin turning into Lothar in a split second (also a priest that can wear full plate somehow and do mass rez in combat), Magical flying undead pirate ships that shoot ghost weapons, Tyrande turns into virtually a demigod... the list goes on

    Same reason the Horde didnt use the Nightbornes ability to read the leylines to make portals into Stormwind and have Sylvannas go "lulz" as she chucks mana bombs through. Some things are just too silly to use in the conflict because it would be over in seconds if they did.
    It became a sort of arms race, the Horde does all the super weapons, so Alliance heroes have to be more powerful (Because Blizzard can't write "Outsmarting", or "Seeing the obvious thing coming"), which requires yet more powerful weapons (And contrived stupidity) to compensate.

    Most of the stupid stuff Jaina did in the battle for Undercity was pretty much required because Anduin insisted on waddling into Plague central without any countermeasures, Gnomish hazmat-suits (If any race her experience with that stuff, it's the "Let's gas our own city!"-gnomes) would have made more sense, and not have bloated Jaina's power level to stupid heights.

    So it's a full on arms race, simply because Blizzard writers are madly in love with the "Rule of cool", to the exclusion of literally any other consideration.

    The story would be greatly improved by more subtle writing, and less reliance on incredibly powerful characters.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by mysticx View Post
    It became a sort of arms race, the Horde does all the super weapons, so Alliance heroes have to be more powerful (Because Blizzard can't write "Outsmarting", or "Seeing the obvious thing coming"), which requires yet more powerful weapons (And contrived stupidity) to compensate.

    Most of the stupid stuff Jaina did in the battle for Undercity was pretty much required because Anduin insisted on waddling into Plague central without any countermeasures, Gnomish hazmat-suits (If any race her experience with that stuff, it's the "Let's gas our own city!"-gnomes) would have made more sense, and not have bloated Jaina's power level to stupid heights.

    So it's a full on arms race, simply because Blizzard writers are madly in love with the "Rule of cool", to the exclusion of literally any other consideration.

    The story would be greatly improved by more subtle writing, and less reliance on incredibly powerful characters.
    That. It could have been a perfect opportunity to showcase the gnomes' ingeniuity and experience with dealing with and desinfecting very toxic substances but instead as you said the siege of Capital City was nothing but rule of cool and utter stupidity, though it was the norm for BFA.

    We very rarely see genuine clever or pragmatic tactics and strategy.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Terrorthatflapsinthenight View Post
    We very rarely see genuine clever or pragmatic tactics and strategy.
    We have never seen anything deserving the name of tactics and strategy in the entirety of the warcraft universe.

  7. #27
    I noticed another trend :

    The faction of monsters is more likely to do monstrous things.

  8. #28
    They are always losing so they need their wunderwaffen.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Terrorthatflapsinthenight View Post
    snip.
    Personally what bothers me is that the Horde haven't paid real consequences for their actions, neutral factions that interests clash with the Horde tend to be absent, the Alliance's greatest assets get ignored, all of the other heroes are acting like idiots so the Warchief can play 4D Chess and the champions of Azeroth who defeated greater opponents tend to be nothing against said Warchief.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Darth-Piekus View Post
    Personally what bothers me is that the Horde haven't paid real consequences for their actions, neutral factions that interests clash with the Horde tend to be absent, the Alliance's greatest assets get ignored, all of the other heroes are acting like idiots so the Warchief can play 4D Chess and the champions of Azeroth who defeated greater opponents tend to be nothing against said Warchief.
    All for the sake of faction balance, because otherwise the Horde wouldn't stand much chance against the Alliance, and of the status quo except that an Alliance capital is destroyed each time.

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Terrorthatflapsinthenight View Post
    All for the sake of faction balance, because otherwise the Horde wouldn't stand much chance against the Alliance, and of the status quo except that an Alliance capital is destroyed each time.
    I know that they had to equalize questing hubs and other things but they could have done that without a Fourth War. They contradicted their own lore by ignoring all these they built.
    Last edited by Darth-Piekus; 2021-09-04 at 05:05 PM.

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Darth-Piekus View Post
    I know that they had to equalize questing hubs and other things but they could have done that without a Fourth War. They contradicted their own lore by ignoring all these they built.
    If they wanted to get rid of Alliance hubs and cities they had to give good reasons for, as well as real compensations and justice for the Alliance and karma for the Horde in the story.

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