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    Quote Originally Posted by lonely zergling View Post
    Which also are known to have caused severe side effects now... although all these are very rare but "very rare" is still bad if you use something on millions if that same group (20-29 year olds) has a rather low risk from dying to covid in the first place. (especially if you have no risk factors).
    The risks from the mRNA vaccines are significantly lower than the risks of COVID, even for 20-29 year olds.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    As you said before, the UK's JCVI is not against children being vaccinated, they're just not recommending "universal" vaccination for those ages (for now). That doesn't line up with the other poster's stance that "we shouldnt vaccinate healthy kids".
    It sort of does, "universal" is just their way of saying "also healthy kids".

    But let's leave that.

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    How Covid compared to other causes of deaths in San Francisco.

    Covid-related deaths in 2021 was 341 (6 fully vaccinated).

    Is it higher than homicides? No. According to Compstat report as of July 31, YTD homicide in SF stood at 30.

    Traffic fatalities? No. We have eleven traffic fatalities this year as of June 2021.

    So is it #1? It is a close second to drug overdose which stood at 344 as of June 30, 2021.

    However, at 6 deaths, for the fully vaccinated population of San Francisco, Covid poses the least death risk compared to all other factors. Keeping in mind that in San Francisco the vaccinated outnumbers the unvaccinated. Currently 73% of all population (80% of eligible) are fully vaccinated.

    Unvaccinated Teens 10x More Likely To End Up In Hospital

    Spent Friday, Saturday and Sunday at the BottleRock Music Festival at Napa. Stayed the entire time from noon to the 10 pm curfew. Pretty exhausted right now. Not as young as we used to be. Even with sunscreen, my wife is sunburned. No masks in sight. Although supposedly 96% of the attendants were fully vaccinated and the other 4% were Covid negative. It was a real blast. Definitely worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    buddy log off and go and get the vaccine, sometimes you have to stop being a special snowflake and take your medicine.
    Nah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strawberry View Post
    Nah.

    /10char
    go on man stop being afraid, why risk getting nuked by covid when you can get your body to produce protection against it with 2 lil jabs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    go on man stop being afraid, why risk getting nuked by covid when you can get your body to produce protection against it with 2 lil jabs?
    Getting Covid is not even a guarantee that one will develop immunity.

    No antibodies found in 30% of recovered COVID-19 patients: Sero Survey August results

    No antibodies were found in 30 percent of the recovered COVID-19 patients, as per a sero-prevalence survey conducted in Delhi in the first week of August.

    The sero-prevalence survey found that 79 of the 257 people who recovered from COVID-19 did not have antibodies against the virus.

    The survey exercise was undertaken for a comprehensive assessment of the COVID-19 situation in the national capital and to formulate strategies based on its findings.


    • Around 15,000 representative samples were taken in sero survey conducted between August 1-7 from 11 districts and tested for antibodies (IgG) against the virus.
    • The blood samples of 257 people who had tested COVID-19 positive earlier and then recovered, were also taken during the survey to test if they had antibodies.
    • Among these, 79 people were found to have no antibodies against the virus.
    • The samples were collected from different areas, age groups, gender and economic class.
    • In the sero-prevalence survey conducted in Delhi covering the entire August, 29.1 percent of the people were found to have antibodies against COVID-19 infection. Delhi Health Minister Satyendar Jain had announced the results late last month.
    • Among the total samples surveyed, the prevalence of antibodies found in males was 28.3 percent, and in females 32.2 percent. Hence, it was found that females were more likely to develop antibodies against COVID-19.
    • Among the total samples surveyed, 25 percent were taken from the age group below 18 years, 50 percent from the 18-49 years age bracket and the remaining 25 percent from those who fall in the age group of 50 years or more.
    • According to experts, among the people sampled- those who had COVID-19 earlier and recovered but did not show antibodies during the survey might have contracted the disease several months ago at the early stage of the novel coronavirus infection. So, their antibodies (IgG) might have disappeared.
    • However, in most cases, the memory cells would remember the virus and trigger an immune response if a person who has recovered from COVID-19 is again attacked by the virus. (This is the good news part)
    Obviously getting the vaccines is a much less risky and painful avenue of obtaining that immune response.

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    Florida accounts for nearly a quarter of new U.S. COVID-19 deaths in August

    Nothing need to be added to that title.

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    Man, I've never wanted to see Bugs Bunny saw the flaccid penis off of America more. It would be different if they were actually victims, but they seem to be both actively rejecting help and doing their damndest top get as many people, including children, sick as possible.

    If there were any justice DeSantis' political career would be dead and he'd be resigning in disgrace, but here we are.

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    San Francisco was packed the last 4 days. On the news this morning they had interviews with people from New Mexico, Illinois, New York, etc. There was a group of 26 ladies that came to San Francisco from Santa Barbara. Between the group size and not all the members are vaccinated, they ended up having to eat at Denny's. Which apparently did not ask for proof of vaccination. I find it weird to come all the way to San Francisco and ended up eating at Denny's. This will be a true test of the vaccines' efficacy. We'll see if hospitalization will increase in the next two weeks.

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    https://www.news-journalonline.com/s...19/5713876001/

    Case in point: Covid/Pandemic-denying city council member is hospitalized with covid and has been for weeks.

    He's also a conspiracy lunatic who thinks that anthropogenic climate change doesn't exist and "climate's controlled by the sun", and buys into the whole Q nuttery of "evil cabal of elites (THEY/THEM!) kidnap and torture children to drain adrenochrome so they can get high and live forever."

    It's unsurprising how often this overlap is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Man, I've never wanted to see Bugs Bunny saw the flaccid penis off of America more. It would be different if they were actually victims, but they seem to be both actively rejecting help and doing their damndest top get as many people, including children, sick as possible.

    If there were any justice DeSantis' political career would be dead and he'd be resigning in disgrace, but here we are.
    I think it is the humidity. I see that Florida heat index today ranges between 91 and 104. Yech. Why the hell would people Summer vacation in Florida. That's disgusting.

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    Mu variant found in 49 US states. Very low overall numbers though. Still doesn't seem to be any solid info on transmissibility yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    I think it is the humidity.
    I could buy this given that the other nearby coastal states with more humidity are similarly getting their asses kicked by covid (made worse by the hurricanes now). But you'd figure that if it was the humidity that Hawaii would be getting similarly savaged. It's not doing great, but it's around half the new cases (per-capita) of those southern states which...makes me think it's definitely not the humidity : |

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    I think it is the humidity. I see that Florida heat index today ranges between 91 and 104. Yech. Why the hell would people Summer vacation in Florida. That's disgusting.
    The people here are just shit.

    Add to that over the last few months the shits from other places came here because everything is open with no mandates or anything so the mouthbreathing chuds came down in droves, bringing it back to their homes.

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    From the grant:
    No funds are provided and no funds can be used to support gain-of-function research covered under the October 17, 2014 White House Announcement (NIH Guide Notice NOT-OD-15-011).

    Per the letter dated July 7, 2016 to Mr. Aleksei Chmura at EcoHealth Alliance, should any of the MERS-like or SARS-like chimeras generated under this grant show evidence of enhanced virus growth greater than 1 log over the parental backbone strain you must stop all experiments with these viruses and provide the NIAID Program Officer and Grants Management Specialist, and Wuhan Institute of Virology Institutional Biosafety Committee with the relevant data and information related to these unanticipated outcomes.
    Womp womp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Josuke View Post
    So? Better spread covid just to spite him eh.
    "The governments wants to protect my life for the sake of the economy? THEY HAVE SOME KINDA AGENDA AND I HATE OTHER PEOPLES AGENDA. I WON'T GIVE INTO THIS TYRANNY, IT'S MY RIGHT TO SUFFER AND DIE FROM COVID JUST TO FOIL THEIR AGENDA!"

    I hear wheezed from someone who is about to be put on a respirator.

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    And from the other grant:
    This award does not include funds to support research subject to the Department of Health and Human Services Framework for Guiding Funding Decisions about Proposed Research Involving Enhanced Potential Pandemic Pathogens (DHHS P3CO Framework) Therefore:
    • For Aim 1: Identify, characterize and rank spillover risk of high zoonotic potential viruses from wildlife, the building of chimeric SARS-like bat coronaviruses will be based on the SHC014 or the pangolin coronavirus molecular clones and the building of chimeric MERS-CoV will be based on the HKU5 strain. Prior to further altering the mutant viruses you must provide NIAID with a detailed description of the proposed alterations and supporting evidence for the anticipated phenotypic characteristics of each virus.
    • Alternative approaches to those referenced above, including building chimeras based on SARS-CoV-1, SARS-CoV-2, and MERS-CoV, may be subject to the DHHS P3CO Framework and must be submitted to NIAID for review and approval prior to the work commencing. Alternative approaches to those referenced above, including building chimeras based on SARS-CoV-1, SARS-CoV-2, and MERS-CoV, may be subject to the DHHS P3CO Framework and must be submitted to NIAID for review and approval prior to the work commencing.
    If any of the experiments proposed for Aim 1 result in a virus with a phenotype of enhanced pathogenicity and/or transmissibility, enhanced growth by more than 10 fold when compared to wild type strains, or if the mice display significant increases in weight loss, viral titer, or mortality when compared to wild-type strains, the recipient must immediately stop the work and notify the NIAID Program Officer, Grants Management Specialist, and appropriate institutional biosafety committee. Policy changes regarding the classification of these experiments or components used in these experiments may be subject to immediate halting of experimentation. No NIH funding can be used to perform such experiments until these experiments have been approved by NIAID with a revised NOA.
    Double womp, womp, pigeon stomp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiesOfFauci View Post
    "If we don't specifically label the research gain-of-function, no one will know."
    "Oh good idea."
    I see you're literally ignoring the actual quote from the grant that proves that you're full of shit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Josuke View Post
    Or they eat a horse dewormer and sterilize themselves. And then get covid when they have to go to the hospital because they took medicine dosed for a horse
    I'm actually trying to find more exact data on this - https://www.scholarsresearchlibrary....s-patients.pdf

    What I've found so far doesn't quite go this far, but does show that it has negative impacts on sperm when taking doses intended for humans. I'd be curious to see if they have any actual data on the impacts of taking quantities intended for fuckin horses, though. I kinda really hope it does, because the people dumb enough to believe horse dewormer works shouldn't be having children.

    I say this with a cousin who likely will quit his job with the state if they make vaccines mandatory and will move to 'Bama. A cousin who is divorced (from a complete nutjob) with three kids already, who should have never had kids to begin with. His kids aren't even fuckin vaccinated for anything, and the family had to pressure them to even get them to take their kids to pediatricians at first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josuke View Post
    I just feel for the prisoners they were using ivercementin on to treat covid.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ins...9-2021-9%3famp

    It's just horrifying how this continues to play out. Though I wonder if whoever came up with this fad knew about this?
    UNKNOWINGLY given the drug? Isn't that like...illegal? I thought that was illegal, since this sounds a lot like the prison using the inmates as unwitting guinea pigs.

    Glad the doctor is under investigation by the state board, but like...shouldn't this trigger a criminal investigation as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josuke View Post
    According to that study like 85% of men had issues with sperm, not all of them were rendered completely infertile, but having children would certainly be a lot harder. And yeah that was at regular human dosages.
    Sterilizing yourself to own the libs.

    Amazing.

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    And whose little ban-evading alt is that?

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