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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennadrel View Post
    Apparently it's being rewritten, which means it'll be a hard pass for me.
    Same. If it was just a graphical upgrade, I probably would have bought it. But I don't feel the need to pay $70 to see how the 2021 EA writing team is desecrating KOTOR's corpse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martymark View Post
    the 2021 EA writing team
    FYI EA/BW appear to have absolutely nothing to do with this remake whatsoever.

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    Damn we don't even know that much about the game and people are already deadset on hating it. Can't wait to see all the youtube videos nitpicking every detail when the first gameplay trailer comes out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennadrel View Post
    Apparently it's being rewritten, which means it'll be a hard pass for me.
    Honestly that's not really a bad thing at all.

    KOTOR was a great game for the time, but it's writing to say it was mediocre would be an understatement. Outside of Canderous Ordo and Jolee Bindo that is and a LOT of the dialogue, characters and decisions are crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    FYI EA/BW appear to have absolutely nothing to do with this remake whatsoever.
    Indeed. It's being handled by Aspyr, a company that has thus far only been known for making ports. Which leads me to believe that "remaking the game from ground-up" means it's a new engine for the eyecandy, but otherwise the exact same game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CostinR View Post
    Honestly that's not really a bad thing at all.

    KOTOR was a great game for the time, but it's writing to say it was mediocre would be an understatement. Outside of Canderous Ordo and Jolee Bindo that is and a LOT of the dialogue, characters and decisions are crap.
    Yeah sorry but no, the writing may not be great, but we sure as hell don't need a social justice activist and former writer for The Mary Sue projecting how much she hates men and KOTOR itself into a beloved game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    I get your point - nuance can be hard. The kind of writers you outlined are terrible and part of the reason why the term 'woke' is washed up, as well. The term 'woke' is so broad and mis/overused that people just ignore it or assume certain things when it is used.
    Ok, never heard the term woke being use other than those type of people. I'll just drop the word.


    Quote Originally Posted by Darththeo View Post
    Are you like new to the internet? People complain that having a female lead alone makes something "woke."
    That is so far from the truth that I don't know what type of internet you are using. No gamer that I have seen complains of a game being woke if it includes a female lead. That's is so huge of leap that is almost a lie. Ever since nes there have been female protags so its not rare to see a female lead and some of the most famous leads are females so I don't know what internet you are from but the general internet doesn't care if the protag is male or female. And from the very start I outlined how the writer is a raging misandrist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CostinR View Post
    Honestly that's not really a bad thing at all.

    KOTOR was a great game for the time, but it's writing to say it was mediocre would be an understatement. Outside of Canderous Ordo and Jolee Bindo that is and a LOT of the dialogue, characters and decisions are crap.
    it is when you have a crappy writer.
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    People being exited for a remake still baffles my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tietoso View Post
    Ok, never heard the term woke being use other than those type of people. I'll just drop the word.



    That is so far from the truth that I don't know what type of internet you are using. No gamer that I have seen complains of a game being woke if it includes a female lead. That's is so huge of leap that is almost a lie. Ever since nes there have been female protags so its not rare to see a female lead and some of the most famous leads are females so I don't know what internet you are from but the general internet doesn't care if the protag is male or female. And from the very start I outlined how the writer is a raging misandrist.
    So you haven't been exposed to people like TheQuartering or Geeks-and-Gamers?

    I am sorry, but seriously, it is used that way. Just because you haven't encountered it means nothing.

    People complained the Tomb Raider Reboot was "woke" because they reduced Lara's bust. People complain Horizon Zero Dawn is woke because Aloy isn't pretty enough. Hell, I encountered someone that said that the God of War that come out was "woke." Or that Assassin's Creed is "woke" because something with the latest one.

    Woke is basically just a buzz term now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tietoso View Post
    That is so far from the truth that I don't know what type of internet you are using. No gamer that I have seen complains of a game being woke if it includes a female lead. That's is so huge of leap that is almost a lie. Ever since nes there have been female protags so its not rare to see a female lead and some of the most famous leads are females so I don't know what internet you are from but the general internet doesn't care if the protag is male or female. And from the very start I outlined how the writer is a raging misandrist.
    Well, then you don't really frequent internet that much. Latest example is Gamescom and Twitter/Twitch chat where peeps spammed "woke agenda" each time a female appeared on the screen. And let's not forget The Last of Us, where peeps lost their minds over buffed Abby, going so far as analysing her in game routine to point out it wasn't possible to get such muscle mass. Fuckin lol. Every time we got a female that deviates from the usual standards we got used to for years, people start to dissect everything, trying so hard to find any kind of political agenda, fictional or real.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Well, then you don't really frequent internet that much. Latest example is Gamescom and Twitter/Twitch chat where peeps spammed "woke agenda" each time a female appeared on the screen. And let's not forget The Last of Us, where peeps lost their minds over buffed Abby, going so far as analysing her in game routine to point out it wasn't possible to get such muscle mass. Fuckin lol. Every time we got a female that deviates from the usual standards we got used to for years, people start to dissect everything, trying so hard to find any kind of political agenda, fictional or real.
    To be fair, I have a problem with Abby's physique in the Last of Us. But, it is more a minor problem I have with her character. She is just so boring, and her "story" is just fetch quest after fetch quest with no real "goal" for her character.

    But, people complaining it was woke annoyed me. I was more annoyed with the fact Abby failed to meet her potential and wasted the talents of Laura Bailey.
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    Yeah not interested in a KotOR with a rewritten story for a 'modern' age, if the latest Star Wars movies were any indication.

    May as well call it a reboot.
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  14. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by Swnem View Post
    KOTOR 3 will never happen.

    First, it's story took place in the Revan novel. Second, it was a tie in to SWTOR, where you have a KOTOR3/4/5, etc. You can play SWTOR by yourself. You are not forced to group, unless you want to. The story is now free to play as well.
    Stop asking for a KOTOR3 and actually go play it.
    First up. You are having an opinion, a very narrow and short sighted one. Second up, I've already playied SWTOR years ago (I hit max level on the beta at that), it was "ok", it was also a WoW style MMORPG that shares little in common with KOTOR. Your post/opinion isn't original and it isn't going to sway anyone, by all means you believe what you want but you're not the person who gets to decide whether they can or cannot make KOTOR3.
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    If they are rewriting it then odds are it will suck like the FF7 remake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rendark View Post
    If they are rewriting it then odds are it will suck like the FF7 remake.
    Oh yes please, if it can "suck" as much as the FF7 remake it would be an intant buy.

    Lets hope it achieves the same quality of remake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ealyssa View Post
    Oh yes please, if it can "suck" as much as the FF7 remake it would be an intant buy.

    Lets hope it achieves the same quality of remake.
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  18. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by Asrialol View Post
    People being exited for a remake still baffles my mind.
    Because KOTOR is a good game with a fun story.
    If the developers made KOTOR more like a action RPG with broader story and more to do then the game itself will be a instant buy for most people. I personally always felt like there was more to the story of the individual worlds you visited then what we got.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asrialol View Post
    People being exited for a remake still baffles my mind.
    All you have to do is look at Resident Evil 2 remake to see why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    All you have to do is look at Resident Evil 2 remake to see why.
    I find it amusing that people can call some developers lazy for reusing assets, content, etc. Blizzard, for instance. Yet people get hyped for a remake.

    Just makes little sense, is all.
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