How does it make sense for physical attacks to hurt ghosts and spirits?

[Mardux]

No, how does that make any sense logically.

Its a video game full of magic, fantasy monsters, god king anduin simps and other shit that is illogical. Why did you pick that hill to die on out the hundreds (if not thousands) of other illogical things in game?

[Shadowferal]

Its a video game full of magic, fantasy monsters, god king anduin simps and other shit that is illogical. Why did you pick that hill to die on out the hundreds (if not thousands) of other illogical things in game?

It's not quite that particular hill.

This is his hill;

So Blizzard covers up Sylvanas' belly, because an archer can't leave her belly exposed, we need to change that for REALISM'S sake, but warriors slashing away at ghosts, that's perfectly reasonable?

[ElDoorO]

Same as I tell people in real life who believe in ghosts. If their mass can interact with yours, then you can interact with theirs. It's a two-way street.

As for 'bleed' effects and such, it would be insanely complicated if they were to spend that amount of time trying to make it as "realistic" as possible while still making the game playable and even remotely balanced.

I can still see a fire mage killing a fire elemental with more fire than the elemental can handle it. The fire elemental would have fire resistance but at some point, there's more fire than it can handle. Similar to how my car can only handle a certain type and potency of fuel.

[orderchaos]

You'd probably be better off just saying what you want to say, and not obfuscating your point with weird comparisons like this. You don't actually care about dealing physical damage to ghosts or how much sense it makes. If you want to nag about the change in Sylvanas' armor design or just generally bait comments about the wokeness of desexualization, just do it.

But I did. What's your point?

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Just say what you want to say, instead of beating around the bush.

I already have, it's all in the OP. Can none of you read?

[Eapoe]

How does that make any sense? A warrior attacking a ghost with his sword? It wouldn't do any damage. It would go right through.

So Blizzard covers up Sylvanas' belly, because an archer can't leave her belly exposed, we need to change that for REALISM'S sake, but warriors slashing away at ghosts, that's perfectly reasonable?

Was this post seriously made just to complain about Sylvanas getting belly armor?

[orderchaos]

Was this post seriously made just to complain about Sylvanas getting belly armor?

What was the reason for your post?

[Ielenia]

How does that make any sense? A warrior attacking a ghost with his sword? It wouldn't do any damage. It would go right through.

You made completely separate and unrelated statements that have nothing to do with each other. Why does a warrior can damage a ghost with a sword? Because of gameplay reasons, to not make warriors (and rogues) be completely useless against those types of enemies.

Which is why you can harm a fire elemental using fire, as well.

[orderchaos]

You made completely separate and unrelated statements that have nothing to do with each other. Why does a warrior can damage a ghost with a sword? Because of gameplay reasons, to not make warriors (and rogues) be completely useless against those types of enemies.

Which is why you can harm a fire elemental using fire, as well.

So then why does Sylvanas' belly need to be covered up? The reason people give is, that it makes no sense, that she would leave her belly unprotected. But what makes sense clearly doesn't matter.

[Deneios]

Bigger question is why are there ghosts on azeroth if kyrians have been doing their job lobbing all souls to the arbitter.

[Santti]

So then why does Sylvanas' belly need to be covered up? The reason people give is, that it makes no sense, that she would leave her belly unprotected. But what makes sense clearly doesn't matter.

It's called a design choice. It's covered, because Blizzard wanted it that way.

Obviously.

Just drop the pretense, and start moaning about "wokeness", already. Your rant about ghosts being unrealistic is completely unrelated.

[orderchaos]

It's called a design choice. It's covered, because Blizzard wanted it that way.

Obviously.

They wanted it that way because they want to virtue-signal about not being "sexist". And we all know what they were really doing in their offices.

But the reason the players justify the change is because they claim it never made sense that an archer would leave her belly exposed like that. It's not realistic. These people complain about sexy gear on female characters as being "impractical". As if it doesn't make sense they'd be running around like that. But we've already established that realism and logic don't matter.

[Santti]

There we go.

Now we can finally drop the crap about unrealistic ghosts.

"Wokeness" it is.

[Dhrizzle]

You are also a ghost, a ghost who is still tied to ypur physical body. When the physical you swings a physical weapon the ghost you swings your ghost weapon and that hurts the ghosts.

[Pebrocks The Warlock]

So then why does Sylvanas' belly need to be covered up? The reason people give is, that it makes no sense, that she would leave her belly unprotected. But what makes sense clearly doesn't matter.

Sylvanus' body is physical so you can stop trying to push this as an example.

[Dhrizzle]

Oh the OP is just virtue-signalling how anti-woke he is.

Game design and character design are not the same thing and the same standards for "making sense" don't apply, especially in a game with mechanics as abstract as WoW's.

[orderchaos]

There we go.

Now we can finally drop the crap about unrealistic ghosts.

"Wokeness" it is.

Again, I made it clear in the OP. Not my problem if you can't read. I made it as obvious as possible. Why are you all now pretending like I was trying to keep it a secret?

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Sylvanus' body is physical so you can stop trying to push this as an example.

Missing the point entirely, probably intentionally.

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Oh the OP is just virtue-signalling how anti-woke he is.

That's not actually a thing.

Speaking out against SJWs only comes with negative consequences.

[Falkeshall]

Do ignore lists have a limit?

September 2021 has been a challenging month.

[Pebrocks The Warlock]

Missing the point entirely, probably intentionally.

So you're admitting you made this thread not for a valid discussion on how physical attacks affects ghosts and spirits but to complain about an NPC getting additional armor protection?

[orderchaos]

So you're admitting you made this thread not for a valid discussion on how physical attacks affects ghosts and spirits but to complain about an NPC getting additional armor protection?

I made it to point out that people don't actually care about the logic and realism, and only use it as an excuse to further their own political agenda.

[Pebrocks The Warlock]

I made it to point out that people don't actually care about the logic and realism, and only use it as an excuse to further their own political agenda.

But your only example to show doesn't even work with your point.