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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by orderchaos View Post
    No, how does that make any sense logically.
    It's for gameplay reasons, that's already been said. It's why Fire Mages could attack Ragnaros or Deathwing...

  2. #82
    I want you to understand, OP, that if this game (or any game) followed realistic lore expectations that it would be a chore to play.

  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by orderchaos View Post
    I made it to point out that people don't actually care about the logic and realism, and only use it as an excuse to further their own political agenda.
    Tell us how you really feel about the stuff going on with Activision/Blizzard.

  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by Pebrocks The Warlock View Post
    But your only example to show doesn't even work with your point.
    Of course it does. You merely don't get it.

  5. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by orderchaos View Post
    Of course it does. You merely don't get it.
    It makes complete sense for Sylvanus to want to protect her physical body and add additional armor the more she comes into spotlight. Please show me how there isn't logic or realism in there.
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  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Tell us how you really feel about the stuff going on with Activision/Blizzard.
    Probably exaggerated half-truths. Worst Alex Afrasiabi apparently did was hold a woman's hand. The Cosby Suite had nothing to do with Cosby allegedly raping women, and people are too stupid to get it. Seriously doubt that women were harassed on a daily basis and that it was known and encouraged by supervisors, but if it was true, then shame on all the women, that worked in that company for the last 10-20 years and kept quiet. They all knew it was going on and didn't say a word about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pebrocks The Warlock View Post
    It makes complete sense for Sylvanus to want to protect her physical body and add additional armor the more she comes into spotlight. Please show me how there isn't logic or realism in there.
    Exactly. It does. Just like it would make perfect sense if spirits and ghosts couldn't be attacked with physical attacks. But logic and realism don't matter. We've already established that.

  7. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by orderchaos View Post
    Probably exaggerated half-truths. Worst Alex Afrasiabi apparently did was hold a woman's hand. The Cosby Suite had nothing to do with Cosby allegedly raping women, and people are too stupid to get it. Seriously doubt that women were harassed on a daily basis and that it was known and encouraged by supervisors, but if it was true, then shame on all the women, that worked in that company for the last 10-20 years and kept quiet. They all knew it was going on and didn't say a word about it.

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    Exactly. It does. Just like it would make perfect sense if spirits and ghosts couldn't be attacked with physical attacks. But logic and realism don't matter. We've already established that.
    I explained how physical people like player characters can attack spiritual entities like ghosts, just before I realised the thread was just to virtue signal your outrage about a character not being as scantily clad as you would like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orderchaos View Post
    How does that make any sense? A warrior attacking a ghost with his sword? It wouldn't do any damage. It would go right through.

    So Blizzard covers up Sylvanas' belly, because an archer can't leave her belly exposed, we need to change that for REALISM'S sake, but warriors slashing away at ghosts, that's perfectly reasonable?
    Storywise we use enchanted weapons, gameplaywise nobody wants enemies we can't damage. We had that before and it made shamans cry whenever a large number of dragons were involved.

    Sylvanas' belly being covered....because gamers are growing up and realize how scummy that made us look to others? Bikini armor types have always been stupid and calls for them to go away have been around for quite a while.

  9. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by Dhrizzle View Post
    just before I realised the thread was just to virtue signal your outrage about a character not being as scantily clad as you would like.
    Stop it. Don't try to make it a thing. It makes no sense.

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    Storywise we use enchanted weapons
    Nope.

  10. #90
    How does it make sense for ghosts and spirits to even exist?

  11. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by orderchaos View Post
    Stop it. Don't try to make it a thing. It makes no sense.
    That's what I thought at first but the stupid phrase is here to stay so might as well use it.

  12. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkeon View Post
    How does it make sense for ghosts and spirits to even exist?
    Makes sense within the fantasy rules of the world. However given the properties of weapons and the properties of ghosts and spirits, they would be unable to touch each other. That is established.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhrizzle View Post
    That's what I thought at first but the stupid phrase is here to stay so might as well use it.
    It makes sense to speak of virtue-signaling when people pretend they believe something that is commonly believed to be a virtue. Because it makes them look good in the eyes of the public. For example charity is the perfect example of virtue-signaling.

    It doesn't make sense to use the term in a context, where we're not dealing with something that is commonly believed to be a virtue. Speaking out against SJW stuff isn't seen as a virtue by the mainstream left.

  13. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by orderchaos View Post

    Nope.
    Ignoring your real complaint, it actually is true that we as adventurers use magic weapons and in many pieces of fantasy silver and magic weapons hurt ghosts and spirits. You know that weapon you have equipped that says "+200 stamina"? That means it's magic and magic hurts ghosts.

  14. #94
    you might as well be asking why would a spirit be carrying money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by orderchaos View Post
    How does that make any sense? A warrior attacking a ghost with his sword? It wouldn't do any damage. It would go right through.

    So Blizzard covers up Sylvanas' belly, because an archer can't leave her belly exposed, we need to change that for REALISM'S sake, but warriors slashing away at ghosts, that's perfectly reasonable?
    You can apply oils and enchants to your weapons to allow you to harm them, however this is wow, not D&D, so they arnt gunna force you to carry around wraith oil all the time in order to kill them, so they just say "fuck it kill them"
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    Remove combat, Mobs, PvP, and Difficult Content

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    Quote Originally Posted by orderchaos View Post
    It doesn't make sense to use the term in a context, where we're not dealing with something that is commonly believed to be a virtue. Speaking out against SJW stuff isn't seen as a virtue by the mainstream left.
    No bit it is seen as a virtue by the alt-right or whatever name you want to give to people who are outraged by social justice and progress.

    BTW did you read my explanation as to how we can hurt ghosts with physical weapons?

  17. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by Asmodias View Post
    Wouldn't it make more sense to ask how any part of Warcraft can exist (Aside from humans, dwarves critters and the like) if we are looking for realism?

    Besides, didn't they cover Sylvanas up to tone down the sex appeal not to make Warcraft more realistic?
    That's not what realism means.

    Quote Originally Posted by Calfredd View Post
    Ignoring your real complaint, it actually is true that we as adventurers use magic weapons.
    Nope.

    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    You can apply oils and enchants to your weapons to allow you to harm them, however this is wow, not D&D, so they arnt gunna force you to carry around wraith oil all the time in order to kill them, so they just say "fuck it kill them"
    That is not how it works. Why would a physical oil on a physical weapon hurt a ghost?

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    OP if you hate women so much why do you want to look at them so bad? How does that make any logical sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhrizzle View Post
    No bit it is seen as a virtue by the alt-right or whatever name you want to give to people who are outraged by social justice and progress.

    BTW did you read my explanation as to how we can hurt ghosts with physical weapons?
    Who gives a shit what the alt right thinks? Doing what the alt right likes will only lower your social status in society. The point of virtue-signalling is to get brownie points with the people that matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathranis View Post
    OP if you hate women so much why do you want to look at them so bad? How does that make any logical sense?
    If lesbians hate men so much, why do they all try to look like them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by orderchaos View Post
    Nope.
    Our weapons are very much magic.
    From a lore and thematic standpoint, as well as gameplay as green to epic items are all magical (hence why you can disenchant them to get magic mats).

    Nvm the fact that you can personally enchant them as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by orderchaos View Post
    That is not how it works. Why would a physical oil on a physical weapon hurt a ghost?
    A magical substance, applied to a weapon, allowing you to kill it.

    Note that @FelPlague said "Wraith Oil" not "Olive Oil".
    Of course there is no 'Wraith Oil' in wow, that's just a regular fantasy example.

    But we do have the vanilla alchemy oils, as well as the current Shadowcore Oil.
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