How healthy is World of Warcraft's future?

[Siglius]

It's the same as it's always been. The game has been proclaimed dead on every update since TBC, probably even earlier.

[Cthulhu 2020]

WoW will be in managed decline soon. The population is hemorrhaging players. Activision has identified WoW as a liability with all the lawsuits. They're going to milk what they can out of it, then put it in maintenance mode, and probably start releasing mobile games with the warcraft IP to milk everyone who's addicted to the warcraft universe and has Stockholm syndrome with it.

[Siglius]

WoW will be in managed decline soon. The population is hemorrhaging players. Activision has identified WoW as a liability with all the lawsuits. They're going to milk what they can out of it, then put it in maintenance mode, and probably start releasing mobile games with the warcraft IP to milk everyone who's addicted to the warcraft universe and has Stockholm syndrome with it.

Source, Mr. Eldritch Horror?

[Hitei]

If your enjoyment involves supporting a company as malevolent and dispicable as Blizzard then you need to take an inward look at your priorities - anyone still subbed is just as bad as Blizzard themselves

Or, y'know, they aren't interested in stroking themselves off by virtue signaling over a completely empty gesture, and instead just continue to play video games they enjoy.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Source, Mr. Eldritch Horror?

I have knowledge of the ancient magics of this world, and you question my wisdom on what is obvious?

[Lochton]

If your enjoyment involves supporting a company as malevolent and dispicable as Blizzard then you need to take an inward look at your priorities - anyone still subbed is just as bad as Blizzard themselves

I do take wonder, do you support any MMORPG companies without skeletons in the closet? Are there any?

[Dystemper]

Wow is on a ventilator, and it's relatives are talking about pulling the plug and splitting up the estate

[Lochton]

Wow is on a ventilator, and it's relatives are talking about pulling the plug and splitting up the estate

Honestly, even though going far, the relatives are hardly talking about pulling the plug as they know there is still value to be pulled from the estate as long as it is alive.

[Dystemper]

Blizzard as a company is too big to fail. They have too much market power and their IP's are too large. Much like EA, no matter how shit they become, they'll truck along just fine.

Blizzard isn't dead, just their reputation and legacy.

That was true once, not any more. They haven't put out a hit game in years, all their IPs are ancient. They don't have the talent or ability to pull off another AAA title or they are to scared to even try.

Now they don't even have their reputation or name , Blizzards value is taken a heavy heavy beating. It might actually be in Activision best interest to divest themselves from Blizzard.

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Honestly, even though going far, the relatives are hardly talking about pulling the plug as they know there is still value to be pulled from the estate as long as it is alive.

Questionable, the value might be selling off IP assets etc. As a whole, the body is being kept alive by artificial means. People's memories are not short anymore thanks to the internet.

The big question is, does Activision wish to have Blizzard drag them down or do they bite the bullet and cut them loose and rebrand. Just because there might be some profit, it may not be enough Profit.

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Much bigger companies than the Blizzard part of Activision-Blizzard have failed. The failures comes on slowly, then quickly, and then they're gone.

In the long run, almost all companies fail (and then are either broken up or acquired). How many big companies from 100 years ago are even still around?

Only the ones that are massive giants like Coke or Pepsi , Bayer etc

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and literaly only numbers about wow we KNOW are sales numbers for those expansions, and afaik BFA was better than any expansions before and SL even better than that...
so unless your thinking is in a vein of "i agree with numbers this person pulled out of their ass so they must be true" we have very little numbers to go by, and those we actualy know look good...

Sales numbers were manipulated since they started doing Online pre-sales. Those most sales in a day records are PR spin bullshit. That day was almost a year long

[Frosteye]

Simple enough question folks: How healthy is WoW's future?
Things to consider:

• BFA & Shadowlands Reception
  I know both expansions have defenders, but the numbers don't lie. Whether it's gameplay, systems or lore, both expansions have had major issues with a significant amount of the playerbase.
• The Toxic/Abusive Workplace of Activision-Blizzard
  I don't need to go into this. It's beyond awful and utterly unacceptable. We all know it.
• The sanitization/bonfire of content devs no longer find acceptable.
  Removing lore, jokes, flirts, artwork has basically set the playerbase on fire. Once again, this has an impact on engagement.

All this, 100%

[Lochton]

Questionable, the value might be selling off IP assets etc. As a whole, the body is being kept alive by artificial means. People's memories are not short anymore thanks to the internet.

The big question is, does Activision wish to have Blizzard drag them down or do they bite the bullet and cut them loose and rebrand. Just because there might be some profit, it may not be enough Profit.

There is no fear of being dragged down by Blizzard, the skeletons are already out, and they aren't only rolling from Blizzard's closet, but from King, and Activision themselves. They could panic and shut it off, but they'd not get far from the situation, nor the lawsuits. As well, Blizzard staff has apparently shown that they are willing to fight for a better job and a better 'world of warcraft' that they are now unsheathing their weapons to take on the crap that the higher up have been protecting. One by one, a larger rank, or large name has been removed from the equation. Cowards to their doing, leaving behind the rest of the team in an attempt to fix what has been broken.

The game is not close to a maintenance mode, nor close to being chopped up and sold as parts, MMORPGs has a steady income, and Blizzard is not the only company without skeletons in the closet on the MMORPG market.

[Kithelle]

Simple enough question folks: How healthy is WoW's future?
Things to consider:

• BFA & Shadowlands Reception
  I know both expansions have defenders, but the numbers don't lie. Whether it's gameplay, systems or lore, both expansions have had major issues with a significant amount of the playerbase.
• The Toxic/Abusive Workplace of Activision-Blizzard
  I don't need to go into this. It's beyond awful and utterly unacceptable. We all know it.
• The sanitization/bonfire of content devs no longer find acceptable.
  Removing lore, jokes, flirts, artwork has basically set the playerbase on fire. Once again, this has an impact on engagement.

Well if WoD is a indicator on your first point, if they can pull out a decent expansion if they try like they did with Legion things should be okay

The toxic workplace thing, well I'm sure people will forget about it once it's out of the news for a while

If people are worried about a few emotes, jokes, and flirts...they're being as oversensitive as Blizzard is right now...don't know what lore or artwork you're talking about.

[kranur]

Maintenance mode if very very very far away.

But they do need to change the threadmill and crap systems philosophy or it will keep slowly losing people

[Souflikar]

All it would take is one killer expansion, great raids, great story with all the crap systems removed. If Blizz can deliver that, WOW will be in good shape.

[TrollHunter3000]

If your enjoyment involves supporting a company as malevolent and dispicable as Blizzard then you need to take an inward look at your priorities - anyone still subbed is just as bad as Blizzard themselves

lmao talk about virtue signaling.

[uuuhname]

lmao talk about virtue signaling.

I mean it's really not on the consumer to fix the problems A) the government should be fixing by you know, regulating these fuckers. and B) having the workers unionize. it's the same flawed logic that says you need to not use plastic straws while Exxon Mobil ruins the rain forest.

[Lochton]

Typically I stop giving a company money when it's found they're responsible for deaths yes

Hope you don't use any Amazon products/services, Apple products/services, Samsung products/services, Volkwagen products/services, or General Motors products/services - the list is scarily long.

I mean, we're sadly at a time where the majority of the largest corporations holds skeletons in their closet, and we cannot step through without rattling some bones. The only way you might have a chance is by supporting small groups and companies, but even there it can fester.

[Soon-TM]

All it would take is one killer expansion, great raids, great story with all the crap systems removed. If Blizz can deliver that, WOW will be in good shape.

Great raids are highly likely, in fact it's one of the few things in the game that are (almost) always spot on.

Great story? It was never 'great' to begin with, and with Danuser calling the shots, it is certainly NOT going to improve anytime soon.

Crap systems removed? Not going to happen with Ion at the helm. He seems to absolutely love that kind of BS, so... No.

We can conclude thus that the chances of 10.0 being a home run are equal or lower than 33.33...%

[Shadowferal]

If it's been the same people since WoD then there's little reason for optimism.

[Stickiler]

Hope you don't use any Amazon products/services, Apple products/services, Samsung products/services, Volkwagen products/services, or General Motors products/services - the list is scarily long.

I mean, we're sadly at a time where the majority of the largest corporations holds skeletons in their closet, and we cannot step through without rattling some bones. The only way you might have a chance is by supporting small groups and companies, but even there it can fester.

I also hope he's never had a kitkat, or a nespresso, or a hot pocket! Nestle be all up in that killing people game.