Void Elf Paladin and Zandalari Warlock

[Yehaw]

Okay, seriously stop saying that without some kind of proof. This is pure head cannon.

The sliver hand and the bloodknights were both founded by priests, yet only the blood-knights channel because there method is force???? That makes absolutely no sense.

That makes absolute sense, given how mageisters founded the order along with a preistess, and blood kinghts are not the silver hand neither in name, nor methodlogy. In fact they are described as an outlier to traditional methods of interacting with light - a.k.a channeling it thpriugh sheer willpower liek a mage, as opposed to letting it control them like a traditional paladin.

you can stop now, if you want.

[Varx]

Alleria is not in pain when interacting with Turalyin either, can't iamgine how their sex life would stand it.

HAHA, yes they are man! See you have no idea what you're talking about. It's been stated that alleria and turalyon cant even hold each other without begin in agonizing pain.

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That makes absolute sense, given how mageisters founded the order along with a preistess, and blood kinghts are not the silver hand neither in name, nor methodlogy. In fact they are described as an outlier to traditional methods of interacting with light - a.k.a channeling it thpriugh sheer willpower liek a mage, as opposed to letting it control them like a traditional paladin.

you can stop now, if you want.

That is not state ANYWHERE in warcraft lore.

[Yehaw]

HAHA, yes they are man! See you have no idea what you're talking about. It's been stated that alleria and turalyon cant even hold each other without begin in agonizing pain.

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That is not state ANYWHERE in warcraft lore.

Hmm, sucks to be them, then, Turalyon shouldn't have become with the Light :P

doesn't change the fact that what you say about paladins not infused by light is based upon your mere headcanon at most.


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Type in "Blood Knight" into the search field of Wowpedia, hit enter, and read the "Foundation" part (again, not the raid)

[Varx]

Dude, you're the one's who claiming that blood knights channel light instead of begin infused with it without anyway to back it up. You didnt even know about alleria and turalyon and im the one who's making shit up... yeah okay.

Sorry but your pale skinned VOID ELF cannot physically be a paladin.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

Who said anythign about undead preists or paladins? you're shiftign goal posts again without even noticing.

A void elf is in no way undead. There is no mention of them being in constant pain because of mere exposure to the light either.

Alleria is not in pain when interacting with Turalyion either, can't iamgine how their sex life would stand it.

What goalpost shifting? It's literally the argument! A Thousand Years of War literally says that it was painful to touch for them when she was channeling her power, and that Turalyon was in pain by just entering a void portal.

They have learned how to touch now, but is rather self evident that exposure to the other active power source is painful. If the other person using their power near/on them is painful, then OF COURSE trying to draw from that power YOURSELF is more painful.

Like be honest, did you read/listen "A Thousand Years of War"?

[Varx]

Type in "Blood Kinght" into the search field of Wowpedia, and read the "Foundation" part (again, not the raid)

I'm aware of how they were founded! The point is that whether you force the light or not a paladin is always infused with light, there's nothing stating other wise that you can provide.

[Yehaw]

Dude, you're the one's who claiming that blood knights channel light instead of begin infused with it without anyway to back it up. You didnt even know about alleria and turalyon and im the one who's making shit up... yeah okay.

Sorry but your pale skinned VOID ELF cannot physically be a paladin.

Magisters and priests channel theri respective powers. So do blood kinghts, being founded by them. hteir very concept is influence on the light isntead of being infused with it. No matter how many tiems you read it, it still will stay the same.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

It wouldnt be doable since the entire infused argument. A velf paladin would implode on its self since void and light react violently. And since paladins are infused with light, well there you go.

A priest isnt infused with light, they just merely call upon it and channel. This is why undead and velf HP's exist and why LFD SP exists. They're just rare if anything.

A velf paladin wouldnt exist because they cant exists.

Maybe, or it merely they would exist on a chaotic state of constant pain that would require constant control, far more than a Discipline Priest. We can only really speculate what would happen if a Void Elf tried, since there aren't any documented cases.

The point is, even if it's possible, the drawbacks would be entirely counterproductive as to fund an order based on it.

Point is, even if a Void Elf managed to infuse himself with light as well and survive... well it wouldn't even be a void elf by the end of it.

[Varx]

Magisters and priests channel theri respective powers. So do blood kinghts, being founded by them. hteir very concept is influence on the light isntead of being infused with it. No matter how many tiems you read it, it still will stay the same.

Again, the silver hand was also founded by priests...

Again, forced or not forced, a paladin is infused with light.


Nothing anywhere supports what you are claiming.

[Yehaw]

What goalpost shifting? It's literally the argument! A Thousand Years of War literally says that it was painful to touch for them when she was channeling her power, and that Turalyon was in pain by just entering a void portal.

They have learned how to touch now, but is rather self evident that exposure to the other active power source is painful. If the other person using their power near/on them is painful, then OF COURSE trying to draw from that power YOURSELF is more painful.

Like be honest, did you read/listen "A Thousand Years of War"?

The keye element here is how anyone can wield both powers without effort, as long as he/she receives proper training, or is not as heavily affected by any power as to becoem fulyl susceptible to it. Anything else is just fluff. your argument is therefore still invalid.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

Magisters and priests channel theri respective powers. So do blood kinghts, being founded by them. hteir very concept is influence on the light isntead of being infused with it. No matter how many tiems you read it, it still will stay the same.

No, no, you're missing the point. It's a "mechanical" step in becoming a Paladin. Whether the Light is being commanded willingly or forced, A paladin infuses itself with it in order to become a paladin.

Upon completion of a Paladin’s training, they are infused with Light (as seen in “Blood and Honor” and “Arthas”) which grants them some enhancements. This is commonly pointed at as the difference between a Paladin and a Priest in armor

(From Reddit)

Blood Knights forced the light to infuse them, THAT's what makes them paladins and not just priests.

[Yehaw]

Again, the silver hand was also founded by priests...

Again, forced or not forced, a paladin is infused with light.


Nothing anywhere supports what you are claiming.

Absoltuely nowhere is it stated that each paladin is infused with the light.

Being that blood knights wielded without problems, it is not a requirement either.

What matter is faith in one's abilties, and as long as that is present, anybody can wield the light even to extreme levels.

No matter how much I implore you toough, you don't seem to catch on that you should read before posting nonsense.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

The keye element here is how anyone can wield both powers without effort, as long as he/she receives proper training, or is not as heavily affected by any power as to becoem fulyl susceptible to it. Anything else is just fluff. your argument is therefore still invalid.

And you really are trying to make that argument with VOID ELVES, of all races? Come on! Their definition is that they ARE DEEPLY infused by the Void. That's why your whole argument is nonsense, you're asking for there to be enough Void Elves that are only "a bit" Void so they can become Paladins, when the whole point of Void Elves is that they have been changed on an intrinsic level by the Void.

Maybe a paladin could learn to wield both light and void, but we have never seen it, and thus is entirely theoretical. And even so, the less likely to succeed would be LFD and VE's, the two races that are MOST infused by their respective cosmic power.

[Yehaw]

No, no, you're missing the point. It's a "mechanical" step in becoming a Paladin. Whether the Light is being commanded willingly or forced, A paladin infuses itself with it in order to become a paladin.

(From Reddit)

Blood Knights forced the light to infuse them, THAT's what makes them paladins and not just priests.

"Should note that this applies mainly to Silver Hand paladins. Other paladin orders like the Blood Knights may do things differently; for example, one could imagine an order whose members were priests or lay-brothers who took up arms (like real-life militant orders), rather than being knights to begin with."

Clarifying the very same post. They can channel the light instead of being infused by it a.k.a priests in armor, the blood knight version of paladin.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

"Should note that this applies mainly to Silver Hand paladins. Other paladin orders like the Blood Knights may do things differently; for example, one could imagine an order whose members were priests or lay-brothers who took up arms (like real-life militant orders), rather than being knights to begin with."

Clarifying the very same post. They can channel the light instead of being infused by it a.k.a priests in armor, the blood knight version of paladin.

Did you literally quote the comment bellow that actually has no citations and it's merely speculating that other orders "may" do things differently?

[Varx]

"Should note that this applies mainly to Silver Hand paladins. Other paladin orders like the Blood Knights may do things differently; for example, one could imagine an order whose members were priests or lay-brothers who took up arms (like real-life militant orders), rather than being knights to begin with."

Clarifying the very same post. They can channel the light instead of being infused by it a.k.a priests in armor, the blood knight version of paladin.

For the love of god, the only difference between the silver hand and the blood knights is they forced the light to serve them! How does that imply that they are not infused with it.

You can microwave a cold pizza or bake it. The end result is the same! Get the analogy???

Please link your proof against it.

[Yehaw]

And you really are trying to make that argument with VOID ELVES, of all races? Come on! Their definition is that they ARE DEEPLY infused by the Void. That's why your whole argument is nonsense, you're asking for there to be enough Void Elves that are only "a bit" Void so they can become Paladins, when the whole point of Void Elves is that they have been changed on an intrinsic level by the Void.

Maybe a paladin could learn to wield both light and void, but we have never seen it, and thus is entirely theoretical. And even so, the less likely to succeed would be LFD and VE's, the two races that are MOST infused by their respective cosmic power.

No matter how you slice it, Void elves are the closest race to become paladins, due to the traditional dwarf elf human triyhotomy.

Nowehre is it stated that their whole being aligns with the void, there can very well be different levels of exposure. Again, as stated numerous times, as evidenced by void elf preists no problem. Anything after this is just pure specualtion on your part. whatever your own personal reasons are for not accepting facts are your own problem though.

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Did you literally quote the comment bellow that actually has no citations and it's merely speculating that other orders "may" do things differently?

Show me the warcraft dev that made this quote. go ahead, Il'l wait.
you quote it in a random reddit post and expect peopel to bleeive you? /smh even more...

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For the love of god, the only difference between the silver hand and the blood knights is they forced the light to serve them! How does that imply that they are not infused with it.

You can microwave a cold pizza or bake it. The end result is the same! Get the analogy???

Please link your proof against it.

you mean to telll me you can't tell the difference between a microwaved pizza and one fresh form the oven? My pity just increased a thousandfold. you can argue semantics all the way, blood kinghts are still channeling Light, and other ones are infused with it.

[Varx]

blood kinghts are still channeling Light, and other ones are infused with it.

Prove that right now, link link.

[Yehaw]

Prove that right now, link link.

I already linked you the WoWpedia article, go read the quote again if you need to.

[Varx]

I already linked you the WoWpedia article, go read the quote again if you need to.

That does not explicitly state anywhere on the article that "Blood knights channel the light" that is your assumption based on their creation.

Again, link link.