Texas removes suicide hotline for LGTBQ+ youths because Abbott called trans advocate

[uuuhname]

That's exactly what some glowing fed sneak would say.

We're onto you! (/s)

man I wish I was paid to watch people's messed up behavior online. beats having to deal with it in real life.

[Calfredd]

It's called resistance / rebellion.

Also, one day the tables might turn.

So like a teenager going through their rebellious phase then?

[TEHPALLYTANK]

You can’t really debate whether the action was appropriate (taking down a website to review its content when the website also included a suicide help number) within the strictures of these debate parameters.

I’ll reserve judgement in this bash-fest on Texas, Republicans, and Abbott until more information comes out about who made the decision and any changes in the website and reporting following content review. I will however note that the website still features a number for Texas Youth Services, obviously able to direct callers to suicide hotline help.

If you haven't figured out that Greg Abbott(Gov), Dan Patrick(Lt. Gov), and Ken Paxton(State AG) are sociopathic scumbags by now you've not been looking at anything they've done over the past 12 months.

Greg Abbott is complicit in this, as are Dan Patrick and Ken Paxton. Their crusade against marginalized communities has been persistent and ongoing. You being ignorant of this doesn't change the facts.

Now I get that you are likely to be less informed about the leadership of Texas since you're not a resident of this state, but Abbott has been pushing some of this bullshit on national television as well, as have Dan Patrick and Ken Paxton.

[JohnBrown1917]

Yeah, I dont think anyone disagrees that removing a suicide hotline is bad

The specifics or it are what you can really comment but cant due to rules ������

If you can't comments on it without being transphobic, that is on you, not the rules.

[Azadina]

I wouldn't think you'd approve of my 'community action' more than me just having a dialogue online at occasion...

"community action". If you're too much of a chicken shit to even write out your fantasy on an online forum, then you're far too much of a chicken shit to ever carry it out. Empty talk mein herr. Sorry, but not sorry at all.

[Egomaniac]

To quote the republicans themselves"

"The cruelty is the point"

[Katchii]

Is this the, "Unless that explicitly say it, in triplicate, notarized by a public notary, verified in the presence of a federal judge, we just can't make any obvious inferences." defense? Because it sure sounds like it. I guess we can't use any of our critical thinking skills to connect obvious dots.

Yeah, but even if they did do/find all that but it disagreed with their conspiracy theories they'd just claim is was fake or whatever. These people are Olympic level competitors in mental gymnastics.

[Egomaniac]

Yeah, I dont think anyone disagrees that removing a suicide hotline is bad

The specifics or it are what you can really comment but cant due to rules ������

I mean, it's pretty obvious that what you can't say is "But I really don't care if transkids kill themselves."

[Azadina]

I mean, it's pretty obvious that what you can't say is "But I really don't care if transkids kill themselves."

A generous assumption. It's not the only option however, when it comes to, as he said "specifics" of said line. It could be that someone disagrees with removing a suicide hotline for minorities, but would like to tweak, what was it, "specifics" of the assistance provided. Perhaps less towards preventative sort?

[Egomaniac]

A generous assumption. It's not the only option however, when it comes to, as he said "specifics" of said line. It could be that someone disagrees with removing a suicide hotline for minorities, but would like to tweak, what was it, "specifics" of the assistance provided. Perhaps less towards preventative sort?

Oh i don't mean to say he can't mean more than that..just that, whatever other specifics he might tack on, not caring about transkids suicides is part of it.

[tehdang]

If you haven't figured out that Greg Abbott(Gov), Dan Patrick(Lt. Gov), and Ken Paxton(State AG) are sociopathic scumbags by now you've not been looking at anything they've done over the past 12 months.

Greg Abbott is complicit in this, as are Dan Patrick and Ken Paxton. Their crusade against marginalized communities has been persistent and ongoing. You being ignorant of this doesn't change the facts.

Now I get that you are likely to be less informed about the leadership of Texas since you're not a resident of this state, but Abbott has been pushing some of this bullshit on national television as well, as have Dan Patrick and Ken Paxton.

I don't really see productive discourse trying to argue with someone that believes x candidate and y party are sociopathic scumbags or supporters of sociopathic scumbags.

This goes for if you love Abbot and hate Dems (or Huffines etc) or love Beto and hate GOP (hell, I don't even know who the most loved Democratic politician in the state is...) ... or love Matthew Dowd, who popped out into national news running for Texas lieutenant governor.

I'm not a resident of Texas and I don't have to make the informed choice of whether to vote for him or not. It's entirely possible that if I were less ignorant of local Texas politics, I'd have a very different opinion. If I spent today and tomorrow reading up on Abbott's governorship through the years, and thought him a total scumbag afterwards, it wouldn't be the first nor the last Republican on whom I've come to that conclusion.

Dan Patrick and Ken Paxton are probably as well known to me as Rob Bonta and Eleni Kounalakis are to you. I don't really watch national cable news networks, I mostly read newspapers and articles on the national wires and online publications.

Is this the, "Unless that explicitly say it, in triplicate, notarized by a public notary, verified in the presence of a federal judge, we just can't make any obvious inferences." defense? Because it sure sounds like it. I guess we can't use any of our critical thinking skills to connect obvious dots.

I can't post about all the inferences my critical thinking skills bring up, since this is a banned topic. I think you understand that big point, so I don't fully grasp why you're doing this "notary, verified in federal judge, inferences" song and dance."

What's there to discuss? It's not up for opinion. From bathroom legislation to sports to schools to just outright vile and hateful statements from elected officials it's a fact that trans people have been targeted. And there is nothing against the rules talking about legislation. And if you want to get into whether trans people are valid, which does violate the rules, you are just being a bigot and just prove the point. So either way...no real room for opinions that aren't just flat out false.

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Yikes. Just...yikes.

I don't fully hate the mod rules in this forum on this topic due to the faction that says 1) there's nothing to discuss and 2) it's not up for opinion. What's there to discuss with someone that thinks there's nothing to discuss? Why share opinions with someone that thinks it's not up for opinion? To state the obvious, you're comfortable sharing your opinion that there's nothing to discuss and there's no real room for opinions. That's plenty for me to understand your viewpoint.

This might be a getting a tad bit off topic for a point I made abundantly clear, despite all the disagreement. But, you know when you see 8 notifications, you just have to try to give some responses to those who spent the time to quote and reply to my posts.

[Jotaux]

It’s crazy to me that this was done for political points. Like what kind of backwards country would this move give you more support?

[uuuhname]

It’s crazy to me that this was done for political points. Like what kind of backwards country would this move give you more support?

the ever shrinking yet ever so demanding voter base that is fueled primarily by spite.

[Jotaux]

the ever shrinking yet ever so demanding voter base that is fueled primarily by spite.

It's like lets just give in to all their views on lgtbq+ people, that its a mental illness or whatever. Is their stance then that lgtbq youths should just kill themselves?

[uuuhname]

It's like lets just give in to all their views on lgtbq+ people, that its a mental illness or whatever. Is their stance then that lgtbq youths should just kill themselves?

*leans into the microphone*

Yes.

[Jotaux]

*leans into the microphone*

yes.

And this will get them more votes?

[uuuhname]

And this will get them more votes?

when the race is to see who can trigger or upset the libs the most that is the idea, yes.

[Edge-]

I think you understand that big point, so I don't fully grasp why you're doing this "notary, verified in federal judge, inferences" song and dance."

Because it seems that otherwise, as long as it's only loudly implicitly stated that folks will take them at their word and avoid making the obvious connections given all the broader context about the GOP shitting on marginalized groups for political points with their base.

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Is their stance then that lgtbq youths should just kill themselves?

Yes, this is precisely their stance.

[Poopymonster]

And this will get them more votes?

No. But they'll end up with more votes than their opponent. Each member of the LGBTQ+ community that kills themselves is one less vote against them.

[draynay]

So sorry to see that the mod thread warning is stifling the hatemongers ability to hatemonger.