Schadenfreude: Told to Stay Home, GOP Voter Turnout Low

[RadasNoir]

So basically your plan is to burn the house down while you are in it not really a great plan.

It's difficult to know the truth with them, but I think Rochana is actually European and only occasionally visits America.

So their plan is basically to just sit on the sidelines and eat popcorn while America self-destructs. They're nothing more than an armchair revolutionary, who rather obviously gets off on violence.

[Kaleredar]

It's difficult to know the truth with them, but I think Rochana is actually European and only occasionally visits America.

So their plan is basically to just sit on the sidelines and eat popcorn while America self-destructs. They're nothing more than an armchair revolutionary, who rather obviously gets off on violence.

That’s a far more generous interpretation of the earnestness of their schtick than I’d personally give.

[Calfredd]

It's difficult to know the truth with them, but I think Rochana is actually European and only occasionally visits America.

So their plan is basically to just sit on the sidelines and eat popcorn while America self-destructs. They're nothing more than an armchair revolutionary, who rather obviously gets off on violence.

I'm reminded of the other anarchist, True Anarch or something, who supposedly was a child of some rich crime syndicate.

[Kaleredar]

I'm reminded of the other anarchist, True Anarch or something, who supposedly was a child of some rich crime syndicate.

Man there’s a blast from the past name.

Honestly all these feigned woke outrage posters are so generically interchangeable they kind of blend together in my mind.

The only reason I remember Rochana is because they used to have a big-boobed female orc avatar.

[RadasNoir]

That’s a far more generous interpretation of the earnestness of their schtick than I’d personally give.

Yeah, as I said, it's hard to know the truth with that one. I do know they went full on mask-off awhile ago, and started spouting right wing talking points. I had assumed that they were just another "cosplay socialist" who lost their mind after their Golden Idol lost. Now I'm wondering if it wasn't Trump losing that got them all hot and bothered, but the January 6 coup attempt. They might not care who causes the violence so long as someone does, and they might have since hitched their wagon to the right wing out of the hope that will give them the show they're looking for.

Then again, like you said, all that might be far too generous of an interpretation of their motives.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Those are all very good points, but there seems nobody else willing or capable of purposefully opposing or rather fighting the existing order. So we make do with what we got.

This is some extreme levels of delusional. Trump is the one trying to fight inequality, but since he never pays his workers, it's because... reasons, and he's the only one willing to fight inequality because... reasons.

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Anyway, on topic, I'm ready for Republicans to not vote in 22 and 24. Would be great if Democrats could secure a super majority. Even if not ideal, Democrats are far less malicious than Republicans.

There's no reason to entertain Republican mistrust in the Democratic system. If another Jan 6th happens, put them down like the rabid dogs they are. Civili disobedience for the purpose of basic human rights is good. Civil disobedience because you want to be racist/sexist/fascist and can't is not.

[callipygoustp]

I should be used to it by now, numb to it even, but I can't get used to Trump blatantly lying constantly.

"If we don't solve the Presidential Election Fraud of 2020 (which we have thoroughly and conclusively documented)"

I have a couple of family members that are Trump supporters. Anytime they bring up voter fraud, I simply ask "direct me to one piece, JUST ONE PIECE, of proof."
*crickets*

[unfilteredJW]

I'm reminded of the other anarchist, True Anarch or something, who supposedly was a child of some rich crime syndicate.

Same person that’s why.

After the stolen valor shit they tried to pull they hid in shame for a while and then slowly came back to lie more.

[Ivanstone]

I have a couple of family members that are Trump supporters. Anytime they bring up voter fraud, I simply ask "direct me to one piece, JUST ONE PIECE, of proof."
*crickets*

You follow up by doing their work for them. Here's one certifiable case of voter fraud. Barry Morphew is accused of killing his wife who was considered a missing person during the election. Morphew used her registration to vote for Trump by mail.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/man-arrest...ry?id=77692708

[Shalcker]

If the death of the Republican party, as it currently stands, could lead to at least 2 new parties that could all vie for the presidency, the US would likely be much better off.

On one hand destroying Republican party would take a lot more then people not turning out for one election.

On another rather then "new parties" it could lead to Democrats splitting internally to keep exploiting "duopoly" instead.

[Zan15]

Is there a certain cosmic poetry when the Party that hate Democracy suffers from low voter turn out?

On Wednesday, the most popular figure in the GOP told his voter to stay home.

Looking at early voting return in the Virginia and New Jersey elections. Tom Bonier reports:

Wow. Either Republicans have functionally given up on voting before election day or their turnout in NJ this year is incredibly depressed (or both). Total GOP turnout thus far is equal to this same point in '19, while Dem turnout has doubled that benchmark.



Meanwhile, in VA, Dem turnout is roughly doubling GOP turnout thus far.



Curious to see how this plays out. Will anti-Trumpersim surge in 21 like it did in 17? GoP are still more likely to come out for in-person voting, will it be enogh?

I wonder if it plays out like this


Know you are going to lose....

Plan to cut the vote by republicans by a large %.....

Democrat votes far out pace republican votes.....

Claim voter fraud because difference is so much larger than historical norms.....

Seems like a diabolical plan to set up more excuses for losses in 2022-2024, or more fundraising on voter fraud that never get spent on voter fraud investigations because there is no voter fraud.

[Draco-Onis]

It's difficult to know the truth with them, but I think Rochana is actually European and only occasionally visits America.

So their plan is basically to just sit on the sidelines and eat popcorn while America self-destructs. They're nothing more than an armchair revolutionary, who rather obviously gets off on violence.

That's still a bad plan because a mad man becoming dictator of the US is very bad news for the EU most of all.

[Kaleredar]

I wonder if it plays out like this


Know you are going to lose....

Plan to cut the vote by republicans by a large %.....

Democrat votes far out pace republican votes.....

Claim voter fraud because difference is so much larger than historical norms.....

Seems like a diabolical plan to set up more excuses for losses in 2022-2024, or more fundraising on voter fraud that never get spent on voter fraud investigations because there is no voter fraud.

If these clods lose and continue to lose… which I certainly hope they do… I don’t really care how they try and justify it afterwards.

[Kaleredar]

Wasn't Trump a democrat back in the day?

Double agent all along?

Even if he was, his abysmal performance as president and the hundreds of thousands dead wouldn't have been worth it.

To paraphrase, never attribute to conspiracy that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

[draynay]

Wasn't Trump a democrat back in the day?

Double agent all along?

Get the maximum body count of dead Americans plays better as a Russian double agent.

[Levelfive]

I'm frustrated with Virginia as well. The media has really been horseracing the shit out of this.
They spend a lot of coverage portraying Youngkin as some kind of centrist. Despite Youngkin being outloud with his Trump love. Or Youngkin bringing out a 1/6 Flag to a rally like a racist golden calf whistle.
They also ran some outlier polls with "Youngking close or tied" earlier this week.

Anyways, they did this shit four years ago with Gillespie. They desperately want the GOP to win to be entertained.

Sure, if people need Doomerism as motivation to vote, so be it. I prefer to highlight the cool shit that Virginia Dems have done with total control over the past four years. From Civil rights to insulin price regulation.

Lol it's the dearth of doomerism, which is to say Democrats' perpetual failure of imagination / unwillingness to grapple honestly with ascendant authoritarianism, that will probably usher in the end of our democracy*, but maybe policy optimism vs negative partisanship will work in VA, who knows:

"My problem with Shor's "say popular stuff" message is that it doesn't take into account an earlier set of ideas about why Americans vote the way they do: because they're motivated primarily by negative partisanship. Voters vote for one party because they hate the other party. Unpopular messaging hurts Democrats because Republicans and Fox News use it to make conservatives and moderates hate Democrats.

And Republicans don't have to worry about being "popularist" because Democrats rarely try to make voters hate Republicans.

Democrats refrain from taking advantage of negative partisanship even though, as that recent Larry Sabato survey argued, Democratic voters are nearly as angry at Republicans as Republicans are at Democrats. The Democrats win elections mostly when negative partisanship is thrust upon them -- as it was during Trump's presidency or George W. Bush's second term. Unlike Republicans, they don't stir up grievances, and they've never been good at nationalizing anger about local issues. (By contrast, Republicans make national issues out of nothing, as in the current panic over critical race theory in schools.)"

https://crooksandliars.com/2021/10/d...hor-popularism


*Just the latest: "Unsurprisingly the morning-after coverage of the commission’s draft report tells a familiar story of disgruntled lefty whack jobs who are bummed that they lost fair and square to McConnell and are further bummed that they can’t punch back. Lost entirely in that translation is the story about how the court’s loss of legitimacy might have at least as much to do with the actions of its members in recent years, as well as the actions of those who installed them.

Commissioner Nancy Gertner in her remarks Friday openly blamed the commission for ignoring how we got here in order to then ignore the present peril. She noted that “the draft doesn’t talk about how unique this moment is for our democracy, when one party is apparently seeking to embed its power for years and years to come through voting changes. And where the current Supreme Court, whether intentionally or unintentionally, whether in good faith or not, is enabling that.”"

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...cy-crisis.html

[D3thray]

I'm frustrated with Virginia as well. The media has really been horseracing the shit out of this.
They spend a lot of coverage portraying Youngkin as some kind of centrist. Despite Youngkin being outloud with his Trump love. Or Youngkin bringing out a 1/6 Flag to a rally like a racist golden calf whistle.
They also ran some outlier polls with "Youngking close or tied" earlier this week.

Anyways, they did this shit four years ago with Gillespie. They desperately want the GOP to win to be entertained.

Sure, if people need Doomerism as motivation to vote, so be it. I prefer to highlight the cool shit that Virginia Dems have done with total control over the past four years. From Civil rights to insulin price regulation.

Politico still pushing insurrection I see. Even NBC refers to it as a riot anymore.

[Elegiac]

Politico still pushing insurrection I see. Even NBC refers to it as a riot anymore.

Because it's the correct term to use.

n·sur·rec·tion
/ˌinsəˈrekSH(ə)n/
noun
a violent uprising against an authority or government.

Was it violent? Yes.
Was it an uprising? Yes.
Was it against an authority or government? Also yes.

Therefore, it was an insurrection. Got any more bullshit takes, or are you quite finished carrying water for fascists?

[Kaleredar]

Politico still pushing insurrection I see. Even NBC refers to it as a riot anymore.

I know you'll probably just disappear, but... I would love to hear your reasoning as to why a violent attempt at overthrowing a legitimate election wasn't an "insurrection."

Lemme guess, they were just tourists on a visit, right?

[Machismo]

Politico still pushing insurrection I see. Even NBC refers to it as a riot anymore.

It's weird that Trumpsters want to ignore the very definitions of words, because it makes their guys look bad. The least you guys could do, is get some better talking points from your pundits.

Going to bad for violent racists and fascists who are hell bent on bringing down the United States Government doesn't put you in a very good light.