Proud Boy Rally; Desperately Lonely, "Looking for Housewives"

[Fugus]

As much as I can't stand the group, this is how push people into becoming incels and capital storming degenerates. Maybe we should be trying to get these dudes laid, they'll they have less time and angst for their other bullshit.

See that guy in the green on the right? He is so horny he made a t-shirt.

Then they would have kids and teach them the same screwed up views as them or become dead beat dads . Better to have them be genetic dead ends.

And this coming from a guy who has no kids himself, so I see the humor in it coming from me.

[Edge-]

So instead of maybe pulling some of them out of the wrapped mindset their in, we just turn them all into punching bags?

It's not so simple as, "These guys just need a good fuck." though, and I'm sure you know that. Because simply finding them a submissive housewife who won't talk back to them and will make them dinner every night isn't gonna suddenly chill these guys out and bring them back to reality.

There are approaches and tactics to try to bring back extremists to reality, and that's what should be used. Strategies from ex-extremists who now work to try to undo the harm they caused as extremists and get folks outta those movements can be effective, but it's more than just addressing a singular issue and the dominos all falling from there.

And quite frankly, that shouldn't be on "us writ large", because that's not our job and most of us don't have the tools, skills, or ability to really do much. Us shitposting on a random internet subforum is about as likely to drive these folks further into extremism as us being nice and sympathetic and asking our lady friends if any of them would be willing to "take one for the team" and fuck one of them (which I know you're not specifically asking for).

[PACOX]

Wasn't one of those people making robot sex dolls considering putting in a functionality where they could "refuse" to consent to sex?

Imagine these guys buying a robot and it telling them "no."

So kink shaming is cool when you don't like the person with the kink?

PACOX why are you defending these people?

I'm not. I just think worry about how people get their rocks is prudish and creates real deviants.

[Azadina]

So kink shaming is cool when you don't like the person with the kink?

PACOX why are you defending these people?

I'm not. I just think worry about how people get their rocks is prudish and creates real deviants.

With all the love, peace and understanding you're speaking off, it all comes down to one question: Are you willing to give yourself to them unconditionally as they want? Yes or No?

[Elegiac]

It's not so simple as, "These guys just need a good fuck." though, and I'm sure you know that. Because simply finding them a submissive housewife who won't talk back to them and will make them dinner every night isn't gonna suddenly chill these guys out and bring them back to reality.

There are approaches and tactics to try to bring back extremists to reality, and that's what should be used. Strategies from ex-extremists who now work to try to undo the harm they caused as extremists and get folks outta those movements can be effective, but it's more than just addressing a singular issue and the dominos all falling from there.

And quite frankly, that shouldn't be on "us writ large", because that's not our job and most of us don't have the tools, skills, or ability to really do much. Us shitposting on a random internet subforum is about as likely to drive these folks further into extremism as us being nice and sympathetic and asking our lady friends if any of them would be willing to "take one for the team" and fuck one of them (which I know you're not specifically asking for).

This one speaks with much wisdom.

The issue isn't that they're not having sex. The issue is that they think they're entitled to sex because... reasons.

[PACOX]

With all the love, peace and understanding you're speaking off, it all comes down to one question: Are you willing to give yourself to them unconditionally as they want? Yes or No?

Only an old lady that calls me a dirty socialist commie
while I desperately try to please her does it for me.

When we're done says, "this is what I think about your workers rights" and throws money at me.

[jonnysensible]

feel free to go and fuck them pacox

best way to deal with them is doxxing, followed by the standard campaign of ringing their employer and getting them fired, and then of course getting someone to put up flyers with their face on it locally warning people that a threat to the community lives there and to watch out for them. Their lives tend to unravel a bit and they stop driving 100 miles to invade a city they don't live in to harass the locals.

[Fugus]

This one speaks with much wisdom.

The issue isn't that they're not having sex. The issue is that they think they're entitled to sex because... reasons.

To say their issues with sex are self inflicted would be an understatement on this issue.

There are girls in this world who gives it up to dogs, fruit, and feces. To say they can’t find one who will screw them is insane. There is no way a schnauzer, banana or turd can woo them more than they can.

It’s a question of standards after that point. Unless you are rich, famous, powerful and/or talented or they are strung out and/or otherwise emotionally compromised or desperate, if they are a 3 out of 10, they shouldn’t expect 8s and 9s to give them a passing glance.

If they CANT get laid in the US given some of the girls around, the problem is with themselves.

[Hollycakes]

If incels are reading this forum and driven farther into inceldom from it;
than they have far more issues than jane/joe rando on said forum can do anything about.
Not only are we not their therapists, but as has been said, it's not our duty to be one either.
I didn't turn Elliot into a punching bag either.
Nor did the girls he killed.
I see what you're saying about not turning people into punching bags but they've done it to themselves.
No one forced Elliot to upload those vids to youtube or anything else he did.

What Edge said reminds me of Skin with Jamie Bell.
That type of idea has far more of a chance at working than whatever is being suggested here lol

Also, is people disagreeing still a circle jerk?
I'm confused.
Doesn't everyone have to be in lock step agreement?
Help me out Roch!

Also lol:

There are girls in this world who gives it up to dogs, fruit, and feces. To say they can’t find one who will screw them is insane. There is no way a schnauzer, banana or turd can woo them more than they can.

[Kaleredar]

So kink shaming is cool when you don't like the person with the kink?

PACOX why are you defending these people?

I'm not. I just think worry about how people get their rocks is prudish and creates real deviants.

I'm not "kinkshaming" anyone.

These guys are choosing to be assholes. How they want to get their jollies off is largely immaterial. But it doesn't mean they aren't assholes, and their lack of an ability to find a woman is entirely on them.

But instead of doing something about it, they've chosen to feel sorry for themselves and blame the world for it.

[Endus]

As much as I can't stand the group, this is how push people into becoming incels and capital storming degenerates. Maybe we should be trying to get these dudes laid, they'll they have less time and angst for their other bullshit.

Nobody is "pushing" these people to become violent terrorists. They're choosing that, freely and openly.

And we're judging them for it.

The same way we would if they were Al Qaeda or ISIS terrorists. Who're basically the same in this regard.

Anti-radicalization efforts are a way to make yourself feel better about pissing into the wind. Have those efforts solved these problems, like, ever? Or do we need to remain vigilant against future radicals, because radicalization is a constant and inevitable risk? Those who havr made efforts to de-radicalize have had success with individuals, but that doesn't solve the systemic problems. And the "problems", in this case, lie with the lack character of these particular individuals.

It's really easy to take cheap shots.

Yet another person defending the violent racist domestic terrorists. Why are you doing so?

So instead of maybe pulling some of them out of the wrapped mindset their in, we just turn them all into punching bags?

They're the ones swinging fists at everyone else, in the first place. Literally, in many cases. You can't just "pull them out". They don't want to be "pulled out". They want to be racist, misogynistic, violent terrorists.

While you might be able to pull a few back, from the fringes, it's not an effort that's feasible on the group as a whole. It's like giving a homeless man a sandwich as you walk by and then acting like you've stumbled on the solution to global poverty.

I do know a common theme amongst people who join these kind of groups if that they do so because they feel hopeless/ostracized/whatever first. Taking cheap shots when someone is looking patheic and vulnerable is only going to make them receed even more.

Again, violent racist domestic terrorists.

Why are you acting like they're the victims, here? If you've got a problem with bullies beating the shit out of people in your school, you don't just say "well, they probably have abusive parents, so we should be kinder to the bullies". No. You protect the other students they're abusing, first and foremost. If that means suspending or expelling the bully, so be it. It [i]is not the scholastic system's responsibility to "fix" those bullies". It's their responsibility to protect the students under their care.

And the same goes here; it is not society's responsibility to "fix" Proud Boys. They're terrorist shitbags. They can face the legal consequences of their abuses, first and foremost, and once the threat's no longer present, we can talk about the psychiatric care they should be getting in prison.

Which I'm not arguing they should be denied. But they also can't be forced into it. It's entirely on their will to change.

[PACOX]

Alright alright. I can't be the only one who see some this protests vs counterprotests videos and think. "I bet these a certain number of people on both sides who are just horny and don't know how to express themselves.".

He said 'both sides!'

I'm just saying theres a certain number of people who are just there for the community/tribalism and wouldnt be out there if they were in a stable relationship. I would question the loyalty of every one of those guys on stage.

[Breccia]

"I bet these a certain number of people on both sides who are just horny and don't know how to express themselves.".

Correct.

Which side is asking for "housewives"?

[Endus]

Alright alright. I can't be the only one who see some this protests vs counterprotests videos and think. "I bet these a certain number of people on both sides who are just horny and don't know how to express themselves.".

He said 'both sides!'

I'm just saying theres a certain number of people who are just there for the community/tribalism and wouldnt be out there if they were in a stable relationship. I would question the loyalty of every one of those guys on stage.

And I've gotta wonder if you make the same arguments when Islamic terrorists set off bombs.

Because it's the same radicalization. The same misogyny. The same tribalism. The same violence. Why weren't we wondering how lonely and undateable those Saudi terrorists were when they flew two planes into the Twin Towers on 9/11?

It's a really fucking weird take to make, dude.

[Egomaniac]

Alright alright. I can't be the only one who see some this protests vs counterprotests videos and think. "I bet these a certain number of people on both sides who are just horny and don't know how to express themselves.".

He said 'both sides!'

I'm just saying theres a certain number of people who are just there for the community/tribalism and wouldnt be out there if they were in a stable relationship. I would question the loyalty of every one of those guys on stage.

I guess the Proud boys are right then?

Women, it's now your obligation to go and fuck the nearest Proud Boy. Marry that piece of shit. See if you can turn him into a better person with the magical powers of your vagina. Put a flag over his face and do it for your country.

[PACOX]

Correct.

Which side is asking for "housewives"?

IDK. Maybe thats why they're yelling at each other. I've seen enough Proud Boy videos to know some of them would be into have a dom if they tried it.

[Hollycakes]

See if you can turn him into a better person with the magical powers of your vagina

Never underestimate how much a vajazzle can do for you.

I feel like that's a war poster ready to be made.
Time to start fighting the good fight boys.

[Breccia]

IDK.

Perhaps that's why people are taking issue with your defense, if you don't know which side is, and this is a direct quote, "looking for housewives".

Please don't play the "both sides" when you admit you don't know what's going on.

[Edge-]

IDK. Maybe thats why they're yelling at each other. I've seen enough Proud Boy videos to know some of them would be into have a dom if they tried it.

I mean sure, and we can giggle about this and all (which btw I'm sure they'd be offended if you told them they were subs, which is a very non-manly thing apparently), but that still gets to the problem of like...you can't solve extremists problems by getting people a good fucking. People aren't driven to extremism because they're horny. Shit dude, I ain't ashamed to admit I'm a fairly horny person without a partner or casual flings, but you don't see me connecting with extremists because I just really need to lay some fuckin pipe.

Maybe the PB's could take a first step to resolving their problem of unstoppable hornyness by like, pulling their pud like regular jackoffs do. Because they're so extreme they hold one of the many negative views like it drains your testosterones, or it prevents you from getting your fatass off the couch and talking to chicks, and other nonsense.

[Yuujin]

IDK. Maybe thats why they're yelling at each other. I've seen enough Proud Boy videos to know some of them would be into have a dom if they tried it.

So jokes aside, part of their indoctrination is no masturbation, no sex before marriage, because that is the masculine thing to do. Of course, the side effect along with their beliefs results in the development of unhealthy expectations and assumptions of what a women is and what the role of a woman is which is why they are specifically asking for housewives.

I know we're making light of this, but it really isn't very funny at all.

Again, the long term goal of these people is to return America back to the good ol' days which among other things was a time when a woman's role was to her husband, barefoot and pregnant, and unable to leave because they were financially dependent on them.