Was Aggra a good or interesting character?

[Unholyground]

She was created because:

1) Mrs. Metzen wanted and got her own self-insert.

2) Metzen wanted to clamp down on the Thrall and Jaina jokes/rumors/etc. Considering how Thrall was his self-insert and the tendency for Blizz to leak personal lives into their games (especially now in retrospect it's obvious), I can't help but wonder if Jaina was modeled on an ex-girlfriend or someone else Mrs. Metzen was jealous of.

Who cares, everything in games is inspired by real life or some form of media, everything creative is a derivitave of something else that inspired it. All origional inspirarion was from drugs/nature or both.

[The Stormbringer]

No thanks, we don't need more of the "beautiful and skillful woman falls for an ugly man" trope.
Thrall deserves Aggra.

"Ugly man", you say. There are tons of ladies out there that find Thrall hot as hell, especially with the long flowing hair and the bare-chested look he's recently started sporting.

[Mic_128]

She was alright in the Cataclysm quest where Thrall was divided into four elements or something. In any other case I've never like her and particularly hate her insistence of using Go'el when referring to Thrall. It's a dumb name.

It really is. That they claim it was his original intended name is grating because A) It had never been mentioned before, but whatever, B) is completely unlike any other orc name and C) Is basically the same name as effing Superman's dad, Jor'el.

All she did plot-wise, was be female, tell him to stop caring about the Horde and magically appear in the Deathwing defeat cinematic to reveal she was pregnant.

[Tommi]

C) Is basically the same name as effing Superman's dad, Jor'el.

Not forgetting Superman's Kryptonian name is Kal'El.

[Myradin]

It really is. That they claim it was his original intended name is grating because A) It had never been mentioned before, but whatever, B) is completely unlike any other orc name and C) Is basically the same name as effing Superman's dad, Jor'el.

It was mentioned before Cata in TBC. Its a horde only quest in nagrand, so if you weren't horde at the time you completely missed it. And it was a one-off mention so even if you were horde it was easy to forget.

[Steelangel]

As an Alliance player, Aggra kind of appeared out of nowhere, got pregnant at the end of Cata and was ~~never seen or heard from again~~.

[AwkwardSquirtle]

Aggra was never developed as a character in-game. I haven't read the novel she was in unfortunately, so she's barely a character at all. I'd love to see her actually do something, that would be nice.

[Akka]

Was ANY character post-WotLK?

Well, most of Pandaria had good characters and good writing, actually.

[KrayZ33]

Well, most of Pandaria had good characters and good writing, actually.

I'd agree.
At least the stuff I did there was pretty good, I wasn't a vivid raider in MoP.

Klaxxi stuff was amazing though.

Aggra in-game feels unimportant, a thread title asking if Imperator Mar'gok was a good character would have the same meaning to me.

[Myradin]

Aggra was never developed as a character in-game. I haven't read the novel she was in unfortunately, so she's barely a character at all. I'd love to see her actually do something, that would be nice.

From what I recall she has slightly more character in the book. The problem is she's not her own character without Thrall. Even where she has her own independance and ideals from thrall, they exist because they want to teach thrall another perspective.

[Skirdus]

I'd agree.
At least the stuff I did there was pretty good, I wasn't a vivid raider in MoP.

Klaxxi stuff was amazing though.

Aggra in-game feels unimportant, a thread title asking if Imperator Mar'gok was a good character would have the same meaning to me.

At least Mar'gok had that sort of power-struggle thing going on between his Empire and the Iron Horde, not to mention retroactive relevance via Chronicle. Can't say the same for Aggra

[GR8GODZILLAGOD]

She's a nothing, token love-interest of a character. I actually forgot she existed until I saw this tread title.

It really just should have been Jaina if they were gonna do it. Why the fuck not? It made a million times more sense.

[Raetary]

Her sole character trait is being Thralls baby maker.

So no, she is neither good nor interesting.

[KrayZ33]

At least Mar'gok had that sort of power-struggle thing going on between his Empire and the Iron Horde, not to mention retroactive relevance via Chronicle. Can't say the same for Aggra

Yeah but you don't see that much of it IN WoW.
A little, yes.
A bit through the raid and so on. But it's not nearly as fleshed out as other characters are in this game.

WoW has a big issue with character development inside the game itself.
All the important bits happen in books. To the point where people can't actually tell "wtf is happening"

[Super Kami Dende]

Boring and literally only added because People kept wanting a Thrall/Jaina relationship and this was their way of basically nullifying it.

[Linkedblade]

What do most people here think about Aggra - Thrall's Mag'har orc wife from Outland, who first appeared in that pre-Cataclysm novel, The Shattering, trying to help him find out what was wrong about the elements? Do you think she is an interesting, well-developed and compelling character, as a female orc and a shaman? Is she and Thrall a good couple, in hindsight - and what exactly do you like or dislike about her?

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Just in case some people forgot who she was, this was her dialogue with Thrall during the Twilight of the Aspects novel:

Is she compelling as she is? Not really. Could they develop her into a compelling character? Sure.

Thrall meets her while he's on vacation, during garrosh's reign, and all of that story occurs off screen.

And i don't think that her only being the mother of thrall's children is necessarily a bad thing. But they can still do something with her.

The story leaving Azeroth again is getting lame. Hopefully we can stop planet hopping and focus on the actual world of Warcraft.

[Soon-TM]

Thrall is a disgusting Metzen self-insert, and Aggra only doubles down on it, so no.

[mickybrighteyes]

Well, most of Pandaria had good characters and good writing, actually.

qft.

MoP was prolly the BEST expansion every for how it developed tertiary characters that weren't faction leaders.

shame most people got an ook for a head and only remember the Kung Fu panda and monkey people

[Dacia Ultan]

Let's just say that there was a period of time between when Aggra was introduced, and when I started despising Thrall as a grating obvious creator's pet, when I wished they'd hooked Thrall up with Gorgonna from Conquest Hold. (I didn't regret the waste of Zaela as an entire character until later; but that's its own story) Aggra is scarcely a distinct character; and what little there is to her is only marginally less grating than Thrall.

[Skirdus]

Let's just say that there was a period of time between when Aggra was introduced, and when I started despising Thrall as a grating obvious creator's pet, when I wished they'd hooked Thrall up with Gorgonna from Conquest Hold. (I didn't regret the waste of Zaela as an entire character until later; but that's its own story) Aggra is scarcely a distinct character; and what little there is to her is only marginally less grating than Thrall.

Jesus christ man, what even happened to Gorgonna?