McCree Renamed to Cole Cassidy

[Elegiac]

So, he's guilty of nothing, right? He didn't commit a crime, neither did any of the guys there. And until a crime is proven they're not guilty of anything.

Aside from giving the company a bad image and helping contribute to a toxic work environment, you mean? You'll have to take that up with the State of California.

Again I'll ask how this actually impacts your ability to play or enjoy the game.

[Linkedblade]

Citation needed.

Last I recall this was a unilateral decision on behalf of Blizzard and in-line with previous actions against contributors accused of harassment. Maybe get off Twitter for a bit.

Sure. I mean that's generally the idea behind all of the censoring and name changes. They changed Macaree, too. Not to mention all the other even seemingly racist or sexual things in wow. I.e. "greenskins" or the flirts.

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Aside from giving the company a bad image and helping contribute to a toxic work environment, you mean? You'll have to take that up with the State of California.

Again I'll ask how this actually impacts your ability to play or enjoy the game.

I'm asking you to answer that question, because you're in favor of them doing such thing in the first place.

Video game devs don't change other historical names to wash away their crimes.

[Elegiac]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/krisholt/2021/08/30/overwatchs-mccree-name-change-is-a-small-but-necessary-move/]Sure.

A Forbes opinion piece is not evidence of all trans people demanding these changes, dude. Don't be daft.

I mean that's generally the idea behind all of the censoring and name changes. They changed Macaree, too. Not to mention all the other even seemingly racist or sexual things in wow. I.e. "greenskins" or the flirts.

Which are, as said, unilateral actions on behalf of Blizzard and reek of malicious compliance anyway.

But at the end of the day these changes are entirely cosmetic ones, not mechanical or narrative ones. Getting buttmad about it is kinda gauche.

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[I'm asking you to answer that question, because you're in favor of them doing such thing in the first place.

Lol, where have I said this?

I'm explaining the likely reasons for their actions. Personally, I would have been fine if McCree had just finally tied the knot with Hanzo and become Jesse Shimada. The only damnatio memoriae I actually support is excising Afrasiabi, but my dislike of him precedes the recent allegations anyway.

Video game devs don't change other historical names to wash away their crimes.

Maybe because historical figures weren't coworkers with the current team of developers. Lil bit of a difference there.

[Zuben]

But now he can be Cole Casserole and that rolls of the tongue better.

Although I guess Joel works fine for that too

His initials are CC now, so I'mma just call him CiCi.

/s

[Elegiac]

His initials are CC now, so I'mma just call him CiCi.

/s

Cole "Crowd Control" Cassidy.

You know, it's kind of growing on me even if it does sound like a pornstar's name. Lol.

[qwerty123456]

Brilliant name change.

Change the name from one of the developers who said perverted things in a private group chat, to the name of two well known train and bank robbers.

Peak stupidity.

Yeah Idk why they didn't go with a more "heroic" cowboy name unless they are going to have him go back to being a criminal. Also love all the people in the thread who are supportive of the name change completely ignorant that he is now partially named after someone who has done much worse than saying a few inappropriate things to his friends.

[Zuben]

Cole "Crowd Control" Cassidy.

You know, it's kind of growing on me even if it does sound like a pornstar's name. Lol.

Ex-pornstar, he loses his "crowd control" in OW2.

[Linkedblade]

A Forbes opinion piece is not evidence of all trans people demanding these changes, dude. Don't be daft.



Which are, as said, unilateral actions on behalf of Blizzard and reek of malicious compliance anyway.

But at the end of the day these changes are entirely cosmetic ones, not mechanical or narrative ones. Getting buttmad about it is kinda gauche.

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Lol, where have I said this?

I'm explaining the likely reasons for their actions. Personally, I would have been fine if McCree had just finally tied the knot with Hanzo and become Jesse Shimada. The only damnatio memoriae I actually support is excising Afrasiabi, but my dislike of him precedes the recent allegations anyway.



Maybe because historical figures weren't coworkers with the current team of developers. Lil bit of a difference there.

Not trans people, but people complaining in general. And the Forbes shows that it's common knowledge the accusations are the reason.

Well, the mccree name change is Canon, look at the op. Mechanically no difference.

Malicious compliance and catering to people that don't even play the game. Most of the people complaining about the "Cosby room" don't play they game. And the investigation by California is a clear money grab by the state and all the independent groups that will be hired by Blizzard to inspire diversity and equity"

I don't think them being devs that work there matter. I'm sure plenty of christians work on Diablo and plenty of Jews worked on Wolfenstein.

[Grimbold21]

Oh, this is awfully glorious.

The resident inquisitor spent days on end on the main controversy thread arguing about the importance of aesthetic representation and how it fuels toxic cultures, and in the space of a couple of posts, we are told that:

- Being upset over cosmetic changes is ridiculous
- That these changes are essentially "preaching to the choir"
- And that context matters to the arguments being made.

[Onikaroshi]

Ex-pornstar, he loses his "crowd control" in OW2.

That's honestly far more annoying than anything in this thread lol.

[Elegiac]

Not trans people, but people complaining in general.

So your whinging about trans people was entirely pointless, then? Good to know.

Well, the mccree name change is Canon, look at the op. Mechanically no difference.

The one in which you admit this impacts your enjoyment of the game not at all.

Malicious compliance and catering to people that don't even play the game. Most of the people complaining about the "Cosby room" don't play they game.

A claim for which you have absolutely no evidence.

I don't think them being devs that work there matter.

They do if said dev was contributing to a hostile and toxic work environment, dude.

Oh, this is awfully glorious.

Oh look, it's my stalker. Rofl.

[Linkedblade]

lmao omg WHAT???

Is this like, "Oh your name is Smith and I know a Smith who diddled a kid are you a diddler too?" Thank you for weirdo take and laugh Sorry that I scare you.

That's a scary thought, lol, Smith is the must common English name

[white snickers]

Alright, someone explain this to me.

This Jesse McCree guy, the worst he has done is apparently to be in that cosby picture and in some chat where they were joking about Alex wanting to have his way with Kozak's wife.

Cole Cassidy most certainly is a reference to Butch Cassidy, who was a train and bank robber, a leader of a criminal gang, probably having killed people, or at least involved with people, who have killed.

Why is it ok to honor this man, by naming the character after him?

Which one of the two has done the most moral wrong?

[uuuhname]

Alright, someone explain this to me.

This Jesse McCree guy, the worst he has done is apparently to be in that cosby picture and in some chat where they were joking about Alex wanting to have his way with Kozak's wife.

Cole Cassidy most certainly is a reference to Butch Cassidy, who was a train and bank robber, a leader of a criminal gang, probably having killed people, or at least involved with people, who have killed.

Why is it ok to honor this man, by naming the character after him?

Which one of the two has done the most moral wrong?

robbing trains is cool AF and even people back then knew this.

[Combatbutler]

His initials are CC now, so I'mma just call him CiCi.

That takes me back XD

CiCi babcock it is ;P

[Elegiac]

That takes me back XD

CiCi babcock it is ;P

Someone get Lauren Lane on the phone right now.

[Kokolums]

Evokes two Wild West Outlaws: Cole Younger and Butch Cassidy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cole_Younger
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butch_Cassidy

[Linkedblade]

So your whinging about trans people was entirely pointless, then? Good to know.



The one in which you admit this impacts your enjoyment of the game not at all.



A claim for which you have absolutely no evidence.



They do if said dev was contributing to a hostile and toxic work environment, dude.



Oh look, it's my stalker. Rofl.

I never whined about anything. And it's "whining."

I never said it impacted how i play the game. Sounds like projection.

No evidence? Youre the one that said that was why.

How would the name of a video game character contribute to a toxic work environment? I worked at a store with a dick manager names Frank, i didn't get upset when i stocked the hotdogs.

[Combatbutler]

Someone get Lauren Lane on the phone right now.

When bob kills him he should silently curse niiiilllleeeees

[Jshadowhunter]

Alright, someone explain this to me.

This Jesse McCree guy, the worst he has done is apparently to be in that cosby picture and in some chat where they were joking about Alex wanting to have his way with Kozak's wife.

Cole Cassidy most certainly is a reference to Butch Cassidy, who was a train and bank robber, a leader of a criminal gang, probably having killed people, or at least involved with people, who have killed.

Why is it ok to honor this man, by naming the character after him?

Which one of the two has done the most moral wrong?

Of course branders/consumers and political tribalists will support the change.