McCree Renamed to Cole Cassidy

[uuuhname]

I'm not saying that can't scrub him, but that doesn't imply he's guilty of anything. But we do know what he did, he was in a group chat and was in group photos, which people were outraged by what he said. Unlike Elegiac who thinks no one was outraged, but he was guilty of something.

Ffs.

uuuuh funny cuz that's exactly what it implies to me.

we know what has been brought before the public, we do not know what else happened at the company while he was working there. I for one have not seen this twitter mob everyone keeps talking about and I assume it was a choice by the higher ups to fire him. in which case, good riddance.

[FelPlague]

Y'all are forgetting the obvious pun.

Cole vs Ashe. Rofl.

also his initials are CC

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I'll never understand the logic behind this. The Overwatch character wasn't the one committing the crime. I don't play Overwatch, but if I did, I'd keep on calling him McCree just because of how stupid this whole deal is. If the real McCree is guilty, punish him. Punishing the name itself makes no sense.

because he was literally named jesse mccree after jesse mccree who works at blizzard and was part of the cosby suite.

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So, he's guilty of nothing, right? He didn't commit a crime, neither did any of the guys there. And until a crime is proven they're not guilty of anything.

so i guess Jeffery Epstein was innocent right? cause he was never proven guilty in a court of law.

[Plutarch78]

Sad how low blizzard has fell

Blizzard died in 2008 when they signed up with a corporate hog and bent over for the SJW's.

[FelPlague]

Yeah Idk why they didn't go with a more "heroic" cowboy name unless they are going to have him go back to being a criminal. Also love all the people in the thread who are supportive of the name change completely ignorant that he is now partially named after someone who has done much worse than saying a few inappropriate things to his friends.

I dont know if you know but time allows many things.
none of butch cassidies victims are alive today but needless to say i would assume all of jessee mccree's are.

its why we can make jokes about 9/11 and stuff, time.
of course many people these days are still alive who were effected by it, but its 20 years old, and time allows wounds to heal, why 9/11 jokes are only semi niche.

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Alright, someone explain this to me.

This Jesse McCree guy, the worst he has done is apparently to be in that cosby picture and in some chat where they were joking about Alex wanting to have his way with Kozak's wife.

Cole Cassidy most certainly is a reference to Butch Cassidy, who was a train and bank robber, a leader of a criminal gang, probably having killed people, or at least involved with people, who have killed.

Why is it ok to honor this man, by naming the character after him?

Which one of the two has done the most moral wrong?

no one alive right now has been effected by butch cassidy at all.
all of jesse mccree's victims are alive right now.

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That's not what people are saying. They are saying if you feel you need to change a name because the person they are named after did something you don't like or was really bad don't fucking rename it after someone a thousand times worse. You own the Washington Redskins and feel the name is offensive and so want to change it that's fine go ahead and do so, just don't change it to someone worse like Washington Subhuman Savages.

NONE of butch cassidy's victims are alive today.
every single one of jesse mccree's is.
so yeah.

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Yeah, none of that proves anything, ezcept he said a thing or went to a place and got fired. You don't even know if those things are related and you can't prove they were.

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That is what was said, because what I'm referring to is something i said.

just want to point out, if you say you are going to do something, then show up to that place, that is literally evidance enough for police and a court of law to put you behind bars.
did you ever see "to catch a predator" none of those guys actually did anything.
but they said they were going to, and they showed up. That is enough evidence. You don't need to actually commit a crime, just give reasonable enough proof you are going to.
which saying you are going to bring girls back to a hotel room to get wasted and have fun with, then showing up at this hotel room... yeah.

[Mrbleedinggums]

Nah, fam. He's still Jesse McCree. No amount of fake woke-ism theatrics will change that.

[Hctaz]

i mean jesse literaly named MANY npcs and shit after himself, even choosing to name the capital city of a race after himself, so yeah those kinda people. i mean have you seen how many things these old ass creeps named after themseves?

I don't think this was the case of him naming it after himself specifically. There was a lot of people naming places and things after themselves inside of Blizzard who didn't end up being pieces of shit, and the way they tell the story of how they came up with Mcree's name implies that somebody on the developer team just happened to like the name. I mean, it's been happening for a very long time actually. A lot of the stuff in Diablo 2 are named after the developed. Civerb's set is Brevic backwards, David Brevik being one of the creators of Diablo. Stone of Jordan in D2 and Staff of Jordan in Vanilla WoW were both named after a person. Not sure the full name. Nat Pagle is based on Pat Nagle as is the Nagelring item from D2. Schaeffer's Hammer in D2 is also named after the Schaeffer brothers who were also creators of Diablo.

There's probably a billion other examples related to people who weren't involved with sexual harassment, so claiming that it's "those kinds of people" doesn't really hold up. We don't know who decided to name what specifically.

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did not know that, looking up the guy he was pretty sick, i am liking the name more and more.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butch_Cassidy

I don't hate the name change, but I do think the new name is significantly less interesting than his original. Butch Cassidy is a much better name IMO, but this is also his fake name similar to the newly established lore of Jesse's original name. His real name was Robert LeRoy Parker.
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I mean something like Kent Cassidy or Kurt Cassidy would have sounded better than "Cole Cassidy" imo.

[FelPlague]

I don't think this was the case of him naming it after himself specifically. There was a lot of people naming places and things after themselves inside of Blizzard who didn't end up being pieces of shit, and the way they tell the story of how they came up with Mcree's name implies that somebody on the developer team just happened to like the name. I mean, it's been happening for a very long time actually. A lot of the stuff in Diablo 2 are named after the developed. Civerb's set is Brevic backwards, David Brevik being one of the creators of Diablo. Stone of Jordan in D2 and Staff of Jordan in Vanilla WoW were both named after a person. Not sure the full name. Nat Pagle is based on Pat Nagle as is the Nagelring item from D2. Schaeffer's Hammer in D2 is also named after the Schaeffer brothers who were also creators of Diablo.

There's probably a billion other examples related to people who weren't involved with sexual harassment, so claiming that it's "those kinds of people" doesn't really hold up. We don't know who decided to name what specifically.

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I don't hate the name change, but I do think the new name is significantly less interesting than his original. Butch Cassidy is a much better name IMO, but this is also his fake name similar to the newly established lore of Jesse's original name. His real name was Robert LeRoy Parker.
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I mean something like Kent Cassidy or Kurt Cassidy would have sounded better than "Cole Cassidy" imo.

you say that, but the dude literally named a races major city after himself, aswell as many many other things, is it rerally surprising? i mean look at the list, and its hilarious how egotistical these devs were.

Sure if i was a dev i would add an NPC with my name.

but some of these blokes had MULTIPLE things named after them every expansion.
i mean alex had something like 30 things named after him

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I don't hate the name change, but I do think the new name is significantly less interesting than his original. Butch Cassidy is a much better name IMO, but this is also his fake name similar to the newly established lore of Jesse's original name. His real name was Robert LeRoy Parker.
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I mean something like Kent Cassidy or Kurt Cassidy would have sounded better than "Cole Cassidy" imo.

aparently its also a reference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cole_Younger
so Cole younger and butch cassidy.

[Godric]

"Glad to have you back, Andy."
"..It's Drew now."
"What's that?"
"I go by Drew now."
"No, I'm not calling you that."

[Femininity]

NONE of butch cassidy's victims are alive today.
every single one of jesse mccree's is.
so yeah.

The implication was never officially made that McCree committed anything. Not so much as an anonymous Medium blog. Just the chat screenshots and Cosby Suite picture.

[Kudos]

Does Blizzard know how NSFW it's going to be Googling this cowboy's new name?

There's a female porn star called Cassidy Cole..

This doesn't seem well thought out.

[Morae]

Any guesses how many people will just simply keep calling him mcree ?

[Varitok]

why? it's easier to type out than "serial sexual harassers".

Because it has zero impact and just sounds silly. Sexual harassers works. Sex pests sounds borderline comedic.

[Linkedblade]

I dont know if you know but time allows many things.
none of butch cassidies victims are alive today but needless to say i would assume all of jessee mccree's are.

its why we can make jokes about 9/11 and stuff, time.
of course many people these days are still alive who were effected by it, but its 20 years old, and time allows wounds to heal, why 9/11 jokes are only semi niche.

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no one alive right now has been effected by butch cassidy at all.
all of jesse mccree's victims are alive right now.

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NONE of butch cassidy's victims are alive today.
every single one of jesse mccree's is.
so yeah.

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just want to point out, if you say you are going to do something, then show up to that place, that is literally evidance enough for police and a court of law to put you behind bars.
did you ever see "to catch a predator" none of those guys actually did anything.
but they said they were going to, and they showed up. That is enough evidence. You don't need to actually commit a crime, just give reasonable enough proof you are going to.
which saying you are going to bring girls back to a hotel room to get wasted and have fun with, then showing up at this hotel room... yeah.

Yeah, but the difference is going to a hotel room with other people, and saying edgy things in a group chat are not evidence of a crime. Telling someone who you believe is underage that you're going to diddle them and proceed to meet up with that person, is clear intent of commiting s crime.

You see the difference, one has both intent and doing the act, the other had neither.

And there's no proof that Mccree ever did anything to anyone.

[Varitok]

Does Blizzard know how NSFW it's going to be Googling this cowboy's new name?

There's a female porn star called Cassidy Cole..

This doesn't seem well thought out.

I mean, Nothing they have done the past like 4+ years has been well thought out, why would they start now?

[Elegiac]

Does Blizzard know how NSFW it's going to be Googling this cowboy's new name?

There's a female porn star called Cassidy Cole..

This doesn't seem well thought out.

Ahahaha.

I was right!

[plz delete account]

The fact that NONE of you know that Butch Cassidy was an exmormon real life robinhood who was regarded as a hero by the territory of Utah for his deeds, AND was one of the first white men to treat the Ute, Paiute, and Goshute tribes as people is pretty telling. Most of you are reacting to legend and not the actual history of the man.

[The One Percent]

Don't care that they are changing the name, but that announcement couldn't have been handled in a more cringe-inducing way. Should have just silently changed it if this was the best idea they had otherwise.

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The fact that NONE of you know that Butch Cassidy was an exmormon real life robinhood who was regarded as a hero by the territory of Utah for his deeds, AND was one of the first white men to treat the Ute, Paiute, and Goshute tribes as people is pretty telling. Most of you are reacting to legend and not the actual history of the man.

ya'll got any of them citations so we can enlighten ourselves?

[Indigenously Abled]

Don't care that they are changing the name, but that announcement couldn't have been handled in a more cringe-inducing way. Should have just silently changed it if this was the best idea they had otherwise.

It's not quite "Patron Saint Gloria Steinem" cringe, but it's up there.

I'm still on team "kill him off and replace him with Django"

[Doffen]

Yeah Idk why they didn't go with a more "heroic" cowboy name unless they are going to have him go back to being a criminal. Also love all the people in the thread who are supportive of the name change completely ignorant that he is now partially named after someone who has done much worse than saying a few inappropriate things to his friends.

People generally dont know history thats older than 2 years unfortunately.

But yes, thats the brilliant thing. The sheer brilliance of ignorancy.

I would rather be a hot 19 year old lady on a party with 100 real life Jesse McCree's than being one of ten 40 year old bankers with 1 Butch Cassidy.

it matters that we get SS tier troll posts like this:

Thats just brilliant.

[saixilein]

Any guesses how many people will just simply keep calling him mcree ?

i guess most of them - cause most people dont give a shit whats happening behind the scenes.