Originally Posted by
Coniferous
I'm just put gonna put spoiler tags around the whole post because who cares.
I didn't like it, thought it was meh. First, a few of the roles were miscast. Josh Brolin is not Gurney Halleck, not even close. Gurney is a minstrel with kind of a rascally side, the type of leader who hangs out with the men at a campfire but is still a great fighter. Brolin played himself, and the next time we see him break into song playing an instrument in a movie will also be the first. Harkonnen and Leto were much better cast in the SciFi miniseries, when they were played by Ian McNeice and William Hurt. Skarsgaard is great actor but Harkonnen is supposed to be a man lost to creature comforts, kind of a foppish, querulous old man who is nevertheless incredibly evil while bragging to his subordinates about it. Skarsgaard played him as a sinister character. Oscar Isaac didn't do it for me as Leto. Leto is supposed to a tall, determined, good man who has bitten off more than he can chew and is gradually realizing that. He's flawed. I didn't get that from Isaac, who plays the perfect ruler forced into a bad situation. I think Zendaya will be perfect as Chani in the next movie but she was too big a name to play the role the way it was supposed to be played in this movie - we should just have gotten a couple very brief flashes of Chani and that's it. I think they expanded the role because it was Zendaya. Dr. Yueh's role was too small (probably because he wasn't played by a big name actor). Rebecca Ferguson didn't give off enough of a "mother" vibe for me as Jessica - she looks barely older than Paul. Again, she was better cast in the SciFi miniseries. Momoa was fine as Idaho and Chalamet fine as Paul. Hawat as a fat guy seemed wrong, he was supposed to be master of assassins and a warrior, while also probably the smartest character in the book up to that point, and none of that came across in the movie.
Now the plot. The very beginning when they say that the Harkonnens beat the Fremen was just wrong. The Fremen could have always beaten the Harkonnens, they just never united to do it (see, the Fremen owning Sardaukar in the book even before Paul trained them). This is an essential plot point; the Fremen are a sleeping giant that Paul wakes up, not a beaten down oppressed people. Liet being a woman, fine, it's 2021, but I didn't like his/her death scene, it's much more interesting to see him wandering the sand, wondering if he made the right choice in saving Paul because he's worried what Paul will do while knowing that he has sacrificed his life to do it (leading into a central theme of the series - is a Messiah even a good thing?), than the heroic "I'm taking you with me" defiant scene she got. The Harkonnens are supposed to the equal of the Atreides, with the Baron far less clever than he thinks he is, with Rabban a "tank brain" who mismanages Arrakis, but they made them a bit too powerful seeming. i guess they were hiding the worms for the next movie, they're supposed to pop up to the surface in order to swallow something (otherwise how do the maker hooks work) not create some sort of weird vortex from below.
Some of it is hard because the movie can't be as long as the book and things needed to get cut out, but I think a lot of the characters were flattened in a way that took some of the heart out of the story, and some stuff was added that changed it substantially. There are just so many [I]little[/I] things that seem off, like when Gurney says he'll try to make do as the weapons master in Duncan's absence (in the books Duncan says Gurney is better fighter, beating him "6 times out of 10"). In casting so many stars, I felt like they ended up with a cast that fit their characters far less well than the extremely budget SciFi series did 20 years ago. Disappointed.