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  1. #261
    Quote Originally Posted by NordWitcher View Post
    Huh? It’s one of the worst expansions yet. Even BFA had more content than Shadowlands.
    The content in BFA was objectively awful and detracted from the game, content amount doesn't matter when its dogshit.

  2. #262
    Cant debate whether or not it's true cause there isn't enough information. But, we can debate if it's a good thing or a bad thing. If you're a raider it's probably a really bad thing. Give credit where credit is due, Ion Hazziclueless is pretty darn good at that part of the game. If you're into M+ it's probably a non-event, in some ways things will improve in other ways they will not. If you're a pvper it's probably a really really really really good thing cause Ion knows absolutely NOTHING about pvp.

  3. #263
    So, Ion maybe becoming co-lead of Blizzard? As a lawyer he seems to be predestined to fill this seat.
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  4. #264
    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    At this point I would be a little worried about who would replace him. I'm not saying there are no competent developers for a promotion within Blizzard or that he is perfect but he is at least a stable influence. And radical changes, even if needed, could be even worse. I don't even think Shadowlands is that bad of an expansion. It just suffered from delays in content.
    WoW is also absurdly priced in for an MMO in 2021, gaining access to a single game for what they ask monthly for what is provided is embarrassing, aside from terrible design descision after another that is.

  5. #265
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    So, Ion maybe becoming co-lead of Blizzard? As a lawyer he seems to be predestined to fill this seat.
    Two white men in a leading position? Yeah, how about no?

  6. #266
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    So, Ion maybe becoming co-lead of Blizzard? As a lawyer he seems to be predestined to fill this seat.
    The whole double lead shit was just for getting some women representation, unless Ion starts identifying as a woman soon, becoming the co-lead would be utterly pointless. They will just silently phase it out now, as she already told everyone effective immediately Ybarra leads alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    So, Ion maybe becoming co-lead of Blizzard? As a lawyer he seems to be predestined to fill this seat.
    Co-leads never work out. If Ion is promoted it might be to something like Executive Producer along with a VP title (Brack’s old job before he was promoted to President). Executive Producer is a step up since the Game Director reports to the EP. Or it might be that a 4chan rumor should be viewed skeptically. I think Blizzard wants stability at that level since the game is apparently not quite the corpse that some would like for it to be and some stability in management would be good while they sort things out legally and culturally.

    For what it’s worth Blizzard already has a quite capable legal department.
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  8. #268
    Quote Originally Posted by EbaumsTipster View Post
    The content in BFA was objectively awful and detracted from the game, content amount doesn't matter when its dogshit.
    Nah, the content was ok-ish after 8.2, BUT: the class design was guttercrap, so bad that i didn't wanted to play. Shadowlands improved the class design, but the content is so bad (especially the maw) that i also don't play it. Might i return with 9.2: doubtful, 9.1 wasn't a patch that made me return, 9.2 might hit the spot, but if it is again in the maw with the same color palet, then no thanks.

    The last time i enjoyed content really in wow was in Legion with Suramar, the rest is crap. (especially since they introduced world quests)

  9. #269
    Ion brought the best feature added to the game since TBC. M+. He is also unlikely to have given the idea of the world grinding excessiveness since he was a hard core raider but he has decision responsibility of course.

  10. #270
    Quote Originally Posted by BaumanKing View Post
    Two white men in a leading position? Yeah, how about no?
    How about: who cares if they're both white men besides the usual twitter suspects?
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  11. #271
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    How about: who cares if they're both white men besides the usual twitter suspects?
    Blizzard is currently under extra scrutiny after the lawsuit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    WoW is also absurdly priced in for an MMO in 2021, gaining access to a single game for what they ask monthly for what is provided is embarrassing, aside from terrible design descision after another that is.
    It is not absurdly priced. It just doesn't have a "Free" or "Buy to Play" option. We know a subscription isn't absurd because practically every active MMO offers one even when it is free to play, buy to play, and has an expanded cash shop.

    It may be over priced for what they deliver but that is entirely different then attacking a subscription as absurd.
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  13. #273
    Quote Originally Posted by aceperson View Post
    the guy should be fired. the guy has overseen THE WORST overall design in wows history and while he may not have actively been a creep, he did nothing to stop it. as the guy in charge for the main issue of the state lawsuit, he needs to be accountable.
    Agreed 100% Ion has watched over the worst period of wow and his ego is just too big to admit fault he needs to be gone, and somebody who wants to make the game better for everyone needs to be brought onboard.
    Dragonflight Nerfs vs fun again show a Blizzard that hasn't learnt a lesson, Actions speak louder than words afterall watch what they do and do not do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NordWitcher View Post
    Huh? It’s one of the worst expansions yet. Even BFA had more content than Shadowlands.
    It isn't a terrible expansion just one lacking in content because of the development slow downs. Of course BFA had more content. It didn't have a pandemic and internal shake ups to slow content.
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  15. #275
    Quote Originally Posted by Mayia View Post
    Agreed 100% Ion has watched over the worst period of wow
    STRONGLY disagree, worst period is still BY FAAAAAR WoD
    BFA and SL are not greatest, but they are far above WoD, they are... average, not too bad not too good

    you might argue wod was better due to class design and i wouldnt be totaly opposed to that, but there was no reason to play it...
    its like i give you a Ferrari BUT! there is no road, just your driveway... wouldnt you rather have Volkswagen and places to drive it to?
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  16. #276
    Quote Originally Posted by Lolites View Post
    eh... he came to be game lead in 2016 and asistant game lead (which is most likely "takeover" position so he was doing at least some of the work) in 2015, so yeah, he was in charge of legion patches (you know, when they fix crapload of things people complained about in expansion, and now conveniently forget) and most likely did work on expansion itself
    But he did not design Legion systems he came in to manage already existing ones. BFA is where he got direct control over the direction of the game and its systems. The change was stark between them and the opinion of the new direction was very much downhill.

  17. #277
    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    It is not absurdly priced. It just doesn't have a "Free" or "Buy to Play" option. We know a subscription isn't absurd because practically every active MMO offers one even when it is free to play, buy to play, and has an expanded cash shop.

    It may be over priced for what they deliver but that is entirely different then attacking a subscription as absurd.
    Look at services of lesser pricing, gamepass provides hundreds of games for less monthly and they give you like 6 free games a month. Single game subs like this cannot compete with the value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    Look at services of lesser pricing, gamepass provides hundreds of games for less monthly and they give you like 6 free games a month. Single game subs like this cannot compete with the value.
    Most of the main MMO's offer subscriptions with a similar price to WoW. They also have expanded cash shops and other monetization. That isn't a lesser pricing just a different one. Game pass services are an entirely different thing to WoW. Hundreds of games isn't much of a perk when there are only a handful worth playing. What is next saying how Amazon Prime gives out free games each month even though they are hardly worth the download most times?

    It doesn't have value to you. Which is fine but that doesn't make it absurd just because you no longer find value in the entertainment offered.
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  19. #279
    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    Most of the main MMO's offer subscriptions with a similar price to WoW. They also have expanded cash shops and other monetization. That isn't a lesser pricing just a different one. Game pass services are an entirely different thing to WoW. Hundreds of games isn't much of a perk when there are only a handful worth playing. What is next saying how Amazon Prime gives out free games each month even though they are hardly worth the download most times?

    It doesn't have value to you. Which is fine but that doesn't make it absurd just because you no longer find value in the entertainment offered.
    Things are about to change in the not to distant future I am betting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    Things are about to change in the not to distant future I am betting.
    Do you know how many times people have used that in relation to anything with WoW? It is the same logic people have used to say WoW is dying for the last 10+ years.
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